Diary of Thomas Burton Esq: Volume 2, April 1657 - February 1658. Originally published by H Colburn, London, 1828.
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Monday, June 15,1657.
Mr. Cary reported, from the Committee appointed to methodize the Petition and Advice, an Act for Confirmation of several Acts and Ordinances, (fn. 1) which was read the first time.
Major Morgan and Alderman Tigh moved, that Ulster and Munster might be added, (fn. 2) for it is very narrow not to let it extend to the protestants elsewhere, as those in Munster.
Colonel Cooper and Major Morgan moved, either to exclude or to comprehend all, and leave them for the greatest of signal testimonies. (fn. 3) If you exclude Leinster, you do exclude your real and best friends, that were only passive under Lord Ormond, (fn. 4) in the time of Cess, (fn. 5) and it does exclude Dublin and all those that have served you.
Resolved, that this clause be re-committed, and the Committee appointed and ordered to withdraw. (fn. 6)
Colonel Cooper. Unless you make your clause more general, you will not exclude ten persons. There were many godly men in arms against that invasion. Most of those that were actually in the invasion are either dead, killed, banished, or imprisoned.
Colonel Sydenham. You have been truly told that the worst enemies you have in Scotland will be brought into places of trust. You take the lands of those that now keep them out of trust, and let all in. You hinder the work of reformation; if, for any person's sake, you should let in a general evil. If you admit both these nations, what shall become of England ?
Major-General Disbrowe. If that clause be put in, it will exclude all that are fit to serve you, unless it be some ministers. I can evidence it to you. I would leave it to any man, whether, in a strict consideration, all persons have not aided or assisted by horse, arms, or monies. You are misinformed that there were any protestations in that Parliament. Indeed there was one gentleman that sits by me, (Sir John Wemyss or Colonel Lockyer) that did dissent, and divers others, but none protested. I would have you, to save long stories, add it thus: " such as have counselled, or advised, or willingly and voluntarily contributed."
Dr. Clarges. I move that the clause may stand as it does; for if you make it so general you will exclude all. There was no such thing as a protestation. The dissention between Argyle and Hamilton's faction was the cause of all, and it was more to support Argyle's lust and ambition than out of any godliness. The condition of Scotland is now between those of the public resolution and the remonstrators. It is not your interest to give a greater encouragement to one than to another, though both contend for the most godliness. Argyle is a crafty man.
Major-General Haines. The generality of the malignants came sooner over to you that they might oppress the rest. I doubt it will prove so upon examination. I am not for a general exclusion, but for the expedient that is offered.
Colonel Lockyer. The general clause will take in all the people. There was not a gentleman in Scotland but did contribute. The matter of fact is mistaken. Every person that did not contribute was liable for the old troops to take all he had. Before 1648, Scotland was independent of any. For my part, I speak more freely because I am not concerned. This will exclude many godly men from public trust, and it will disaffect and disturb the Government; whereas they are in a way of compliance. It will not be for your service if you exclude all that sat in that Parliament, or in the council of war, or the like.
Colonel Stewart. You ought to sweeten that nation as much as you can, so you do not admit your enemies. You have admitted them to union, and to sit in Parliament; and if you give a privilege with one hand, and take it away with another, it will discourage that people. Though we may now take the liberty to call it a faction upon the dissention between the parties, yet all were concluded by the vote of Parliament.
Sir John Mac Dowell. To put a character upon one part of that nation more than another will not be for your service. If you please, exclude all that treated with Charles Stewart, to bring him over, or to assist him at Worcester. I would have it re-committed, to pen it more restrictively.
Sir Christopher Pack. I move not to give a greater privilege to Scotland than you do to yourselves; viz. aiding, assisting, or abetting. A greater latitude, as it may trouble Scotland, so it may trouble England.
Mr. Godfrey moved, that a clause might be added to this explanatory Petition and Advice, touching the time of continuation of future Parliaments, and that triennial Parliaments might continue six months, and intermediate Parliaments three months.
Colonel Sydenham reported the clause concerning the members for Scotland. (fn. 7)
Lord Lambert defended it four or five times by standing up, and, upon the dividing the House, carried 50 to 42. See the Journal inde. (fn. 8)
Major-General Whalley. I move that the Committee for the Bill of Indemnity be renewed, that has been neglected, and is postponed sine die. I desire the Committee may be revived to meet to-morrow morning at seven.
It was resolved accordingly. (fn. 11)
It was resolved to be read on Thursday morning next. (fn. 12)
Mr. Grove. I move that you add some commissioners for Wiltshire, and that was also resolved. (fn. 13)
Mr. Speaker left the chair, and a great debate who should take the chair; whether Mr. Bampfield, Mr. Fowell, or Mr. Nathaniel Bacon. The last was most called on. Before they could come to any resolution, Mr. Speaker was called to the chair again, and Mr. Bacon called there. Mr. Speaker left the chair; Mr. Bacon, to the chair. (fn. 14)
Captain Baynes. I move that you will consider where to lay that part of the assessments which you take of Cardigan and Pembroke, and how you will provide for the charge of levying it, that it come in a clear revenue to his Highness.
Mr. Bampfield. Such a motion never was in any tax laid upon the people that the Chief Magistrate,— (fn. 15) but the same was always levied and brought in, by way of the Exchequer.