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| Oct. 1. |
628. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Information
having been given that Mr. Woodall has shipped 12 servants into
the Indies, whose wages he is to receive, ordered that he be warned
to attend the next Court. Concerning the estate of Halstead,
deceased. Rise of the price of cloth, because by reason of the
extreme drought this last summer, the fulling mills could not work.
Report of Mr. Bell that he had attended Sec. Conway and first
moved him for a warrant to the Lord Admiral for the staying of the
Dutch East India ships, as ordered by his Majesty, but his answer
was that he would first acquaint the Duke with the King's pleasure,
and afterwards frame a warrant accordingly; secondly, he prayed
Mr. Secretary that some declaration of the King might be entered
in the Council book, with their Lordships' opinion and his Majesty's
resolution concerning his purpose to repair the injuries and violences
of the Dutch, and the Company to have an authentic copy thereof;
thirdly, that the Company might receive the warrant promised by
his Majesty for their discharge for all matters committed by them
in the Indies, according to his Majesty's promise, whereto Mr. Secretary answered that it stuck not at him, for he had long since given
order for the performance thereof. Stammell cloths and "perpetuanaes," as also directions how to proceed in criminal causes, with
an abridgement of the Statutes of England, to be sent by the Swallow.
[One page and a half. Court Minute Book, VII., 144–145.] |
| Oct. 1. |
629. Morris Abbott to Carleton. Is sorry that through his own
over zeal he should give Carleton cause for writing so long a letter
as that of the 18th (see ante, No. 615), but hopes the Company's late
letters do sufficiently confess their mistakes and give Carleton satisfaction. The burnt child dreads the fire, and they have been so
bitten by the Dutch taking all advantages in writings that themselves have thought it not safe to acknowledge any intention in
their people, and more unsafe to have the power of building forts
with that restriction, "for thereby they had means granted, as being
the stronger, to cavill and put us by all places whatever." Must
confess an error in writing as he did about the public faith, but
supposes the States are not able to relieve the Company in that
engagement which they entered into for their merchants, and which
Abbott well saw at their last being in England, and as appears
now in this bloody act, the merchants in plain terms performing
what they please. Explains how payment has been deferred of
the 23,906 ryals, notwithstanding the States precisely engaged it
in the last treaty. Confesses the hope of hostages was ridiculous,
and so dishonorable as no State would endure. The resolution of the
Prince of Orange is, without all exception, that until they may
have distinct places of association there will never be any accord;
and "I must confess I much doubted that an absolute breach
could be good for us, but therein such was the violence of our
people that, as I wrote your Lordship, I herein durst not give any
direct answer." That proposition was long disputed on Monday last
before the Lords Commissioners at Hampton Court; they concluded
that they saw an inclination thereto in all of us, one only excepted,
and with Carleton's three cautions it will be yielded unto. For this
cause, has ever been backward in getting the book printed, but
whether it will so rest he knows not, our people being still urgent
upon it. The Commissioners have fully resolved his Majesty upon
sight of all our papers, of the innocency of our people, and thereupon
order is given for the detainment of all the East India ships: shall
then see whether the States will make themselves parties or no.
The horror of their cruelties is a great help to the righting of our
wrongs, and the discouragement amongst themselves is no small
advantage, so that now or never we must expect redress. Any
jealousies with Boreel or any of the Mayors never entered our
thoughts. The like mistake touching Sec. Conway grew only by
those committees who were employed to the Court, which is since
rectified. Generallities may soon commit errors; they are sorry to
have given him any discontent, and now see his ardent desire to do
all possible endeavours in their affairs. Endorsed, "Recd the
12th." [One page and a half. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 2. |
630. Christopher Clitherow, Deputy Governor, and fourteen members of the committee of the East India Company to Carleton.
Understand that Sec. Conway has recommended to him the speedy
procuring of an Act or letter mandatory from the States General
and the Prince of Orange into the Indies, which, as it imports the
welfare and security of all their affairs, and they have a ship ready
to sail which stays only for this Act, they make bold to put him in
mind of, and pray that it may be authentic, and so plainly composed
as not to be subject to ambiguity or double interpretation. The
Lords Commissioners having duly examined the business, rest satisfied that the proceedings at Amboyna were murderous, and that the
English died innocent. This they have declared, and also advised
his Majesty, who has taken a firm resolution to right his own honour,
revenge his subjects' blood, and repair their damage upon the ships
and goods of the Dutch East India Company. He has commanded
themselves cheerfully to proceed with their trade, promising that if
the Dutch in the Indies shall persist in their insolencies, he will
"toties quoties" use his force to reduce them to better conformity.
It rests only that they by every opportunity acknowledge his noble
fervency in pursuit of these so important occasions and their own
humble thankfulness for his favours. Endorsed, "Recd the 12th,
1624." [One page. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 2. |
631. The Duke of Buckingham to the Prince of Orange. The
proofs Buckingham has given of his care for the United Provinces,
give him assurance that what he proposes will not receive an ill
interpretation. The excess committed by the Dutch Governor in
Amboyna, has so justly irritated his Majesty, his Council, the
whole English nation, and the East India Company in particular,
that those who wish to foment a good intelligence between that
Crown and the States, ought as much in prudence as in justice to
blame the fact and demand reparation. Will not importune him
with the pitiable relation, and the complaints and proofs which the
merchants have given, but will remind him only of the constancy
with which his Majesty has overcome every kind of difficulty in
granting aid of men and money to the States, and of the patience
his Majesty has exercised in awaiting justice from them. And this
(whether on account of the form of their government, the power of
their Company, or of too great negligence or confidence) has so
wearied (ennuyé) his Majesty and discouraged and driven the
merchants to such despair that to maintain the protection his
Majesty owes to his subjects and to continue the traffic with safety
(to which his honour and profit oblige him), his Majesty with the
unanimous advice of his Council has expressly commanded
Buckingham, his Admiral, by letter, to arrest the ships of the East
India merchants, which command he cannot disobey. Has thought
fit, nevertheless, not only to represent to his Excellency the present
state of affairs, but also to induce him to a consideration of their
issue; for when Buckingham shall have given orders to seize the
ships (in which his duty so strongly presses him that he cannot wait
long for a reply), the consequences of the loss of time may incite the
Dutch, without considering the issue, to resistance, and then will
arise a point of honour and perhaps blows, and the shedding of blood
in revenge, and evils springing therefrom which cannot be foreseen.
Urges him therefore to insist with the States, as it is but reasonable
that they give prompt satisfaction to his Majesty for past damages
and security for the future or that they seek some other means by
which they may be blameless of the evils which may follow. French.
Probably sent with Sec. Conway's letter to Carleton of 6 Oct. (No. 635)
"by that unfortunate messenger Dixon," but most likely delayed in
the transit; see Sec. Conway's letter of 25 Oct., No. 655. Carleton
sent Buckingham's letter to the Prince of Orange on 21 Oct. (see
No. 649). [Holland Corresp.] |
Oct. 2.
The Hague. |
632. Carleton to Sec. Conway. The East India business hath
rested hitherto in expectance of an answer from the Bewinthebbers
assembled at Middelburg; hears that two deputies are come from
thence, with a large bundle of papers; but there being no Assembly
of the States General nothing will be done till next week. Endorsed,
"Rec. 13th by Martin." [Extract from Holland Corresp.] |
Oct. 3/13.
The Hague. |
633. Carleton to the Prince of Orange. Nothing is heard from
England but a continuation of the complaints of the East India
Company to whom his Majesty has granted certain commissioners,
Lords of his Privy Council and others, to hear them and consider
the answers given and to be given on this subject. Earnestly
desires that that these will be more satisfactory; otherwise Carleton
fears it will be no longer in their hands to apply a remedy; for
until now his Majesty has held all together himself, notwithstanding
that he has been driven and, as it were, forced to sharp resolutions.
The Bewinthebbers have sent here two of their deputies, with the
information come by their last ships from the Indies; upon which
he beseeches his Excellency to use his authority with the States,
that such a resolution may be taken and so promptly as may give
satisfaction to his Majesty, and prevent greater inconveniences
which might be occasioned by the meeting of Parliament in the
coming month, in case these bloody affairs now so crudely and ill
digested should be presented to that Assembly, as undoubtely they
will be. [French. Extract from Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 4. |
634. Locke to Carleton. The East India Company has so far
prevailed that the King has ordered two of his ships to be made
ready to seize upon the Hollanders' ships until they have given the
Company satisfaction. The King will maintain them in their trade
and see that no wrong be offered to them. The merchants are unwilling to have any doings with Sir Robt. Sherley, though in the
opinion of Sec. Conway and others what he propounds may be for
their good; but the Company say they are not able to undertake
the trade, it is too great for them. [Extract from Domestic Corresp.,
Jac. I., Vol. CLXXIII., No. 12, Cal., p. 349.] |
| Oct. 6. |
635. Sec. Conway to Carleton. The answers sent hither from
the States touching Amboyna have fallen so much short of what his
Majesty might in justice and reason expect that, notwithstanding
the Duke's careful directions and all Conway's endeavours, resolution
is taken by the Lords, and approved by the King, that stay be made
of the first ships of those countries that shall come from the East
Indies until satisfaction be given; and this must and will be put in
execution, so as the States must either think of some present real
way of satisfaction, or else give order to their ships that they suffer
themselves to be stayed without opposition; for, in case of resistance,
force must be used, which will be such a falling into terms of hostility, as Conway sees not how it can be kept from a war. The
Prince and Duke would be much troubled to see all their good
offices prove fruitless. The Duke will delay and moderate by his
directions to his officers as much as he may, but if no satisfaction
come, he cannot but command and see execution when it comes to
the point. This way of giving directions to the Lord Admiral,
Conway had before thought of and advised as the best expedient to
give present contentment here, and keep things from extremities;
and withall, order is taken that in case of arrest there shall be such
good usage of persons, ships, and goods as all just cause of grievance
may be avoided as much as possible. Carleton will see by the
enclosed the desire of the English Company for removing from some
parts in the Indies, and building forts in other places where the
Dutch have no real possession, and that the States would give order
in this, as also to their men there, so to dispose them to reason and
mutual correspondency, that all further oppressions may be avoided.
He may be pleased to procure the States order therein speedily and
effectually, which, if they refuse (being agreeable to former treaties),
it will be seen what their resolutions are, and his Majesty will
provide for his own honour and his subjects' trade and safety as he
shall find cause. Incloses, |
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635. I. Proposition of the East India Company to the King.
That they have resolved speedily to remove their agents and
factors from Jacatra, and from all other places where they
have lived wader the laws and cruel commands of the
Dutch, with intention to fortify some convenient and safe
places in the Straits of Sunda to the westward of Bantam,
or to the eastward of Cheribon, and in some other countries
where the Dutch have no such real possession whereupon
to ground a pretended sovereignity. For this purpose they
have already sent soldiers, engineers, workmen, artillery,
munition, and other needful things, and intend very
shortly to despatch away more, if they may be assured of
his Majesty's Royal protection. In consideration of the
premises, beseech his Majesty to take some present course:
1. That the Dutch in the East Indies may be effectually
commanded, by letters from the States and Prince of
Orange, to suffer the English quietly to depart from
Jacatra and other places, with all their estates.
2. If any differences cannot end by mutual agreement
of the Councils of Defence, they may be remitted hither, to
be decided by his Majesty and the States, if they cannot be
accommodated by the English and Dutch Companies here.
3. That the Dutch suffer the English to make said fortifications, and in all other occasions treat them like friends
and allies, that so the liberty of traffic in those parts may
be cherished and advanced. For the furtherance whereof
they conceive it very necessary that the said letters, in plain
and authentic form, be procured speedily and sent in their
next shipping, to prevent further mischief. As for those
wrongs and outrages whereof they have already complained,
they will in due time solicit his Majesty's Royal assistance
for justice and redress. [Two pages and a half. Holland
Corresp.] |
| Oct. 6. |
636. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Report of
Mr. Strowd, that upon hearing the charges against Capt. Greene, he
is found "faulty in such manner as he has been charged." Concerning
the business of Henry Bate, late the Company's servant, returned
from the Indies, who has given out that he will yield to no other
condition than himself shall think reasonable. Note is delivered by
the Governor to George Ball of what the Company challengeth from
him, requiring his answer on Friday following. Ordered that Capt.
Greene have, according to his desire, a note of the particulars wherewith he stands charged by the Company. Petition of (Rich.)
Welden for 100l. on account of his wages, and for all matters
between the Company and him to be referred to arbitrators. The
Court would not grant the first, but were contented to join in a
course of arbitrament on certain conditions. Report of Mr. Governor
that he and others had been served with process to appear at Westminster in Pike's business concerning his brother's estate; discussion
thereon. Committee appointed to see whether the Lesser James
may be made serviceable for 800l. or 900l., as the Company are
informed. The Court was moved whether they will print the books
concerning the cruelties of the Dutch towards the English at Amboyna. It was said 500 may be printed for 12l. 10s., but conceived
fit by the Company to print 2,000, and then have the press broken;
that some few copies be given to some principal persons of the
nobility, and if they be well taken, then to adventure to put abroad
the rest, which if they shall do, the benefit will pay for the printing.
Concerning the difference between one Sprake, late the Company's
servant, deceased in the Indies, and Banggam. Report of Mr. Bell
of what passed between him and Mr. Sec. Conway (see ante, Court
Minutes, Oct. 1). The Court was now put in mind that howsoever
nothing hath been required from the Company by way of fee, yet
it is not fit to trouble a public person of Mr. Sec. Conway's place
and employment without taking consideration thereof; ordered that
he be presented with 50l. "as a free thankfulness from the Company." 27s. to be paid to Mr. Leate for postage of the Company's
letters out of Persia by way of Marseilles. Letter read from Lord
Vaúghan desiring the Company would take consideration of the
son of Capt. David Middleton, who died in the Company's service.
Henry Middleton, the son, presented to the Court. After much
reasoning, the Court called to mind that the captain lost both ship
and goods to a very great value; it was in the sixth voyage and
ended in Chancery; and therefore they gave for answer that there is
nothing due. Resolved that the following commodities be sent in
the fleet, viz., 180 tons of lead, quicksilver, amber beads, cloths,
green and crimson satins, gold and silver lace to the value of 300l.
or 400l., and cloth of gold and silver to the value of 1,000l. Ordered
that a draught be made of some good, legal, and justifiable course in
causes criminal, and shown to Lord Hubbard [Hobart] before it be sent
to the Indies. Report concerning the difference between Sylvanus
Man and his apprentice's father concerning wages. [Five pages and
a quarter. Court Minute Book, VII., 146–151.] |
Oct. 6.
The Hague. |
637. Carleton to Sec. Conway. Has not yet heard anything
from the States touching the East India business, notwithstanding
the deputies of the Bewinthebbers have been here five days, and
have been often heard by the States, to whom they justify the fact
of their men in Amboyna by further informations which they say
they have received by two which are come in these last ships, one
Hauteman, who hath been long conversant in the Moluccas, and
should have succeeded Coen and Maerschalke, a principal man at
Amboyna, next Governor Speult. Hears that these chiefly insist on
the voluntary confessions of the English, and their persisting therein
to their deaths; but that is a thing so contrary to the testimonies of
the English which were present, and the writings come to light of
some which were executed, that no credit is to be given to it without
further proofs. [Extract from Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 7. |
638. Locke to Carleton. Sends order of the Privy Council in
behalf of the East India Company, and copy of a letter agreed to
be sent to the Lord Admiral, but it is not signed, and will not be
signed till the Lords meet in Council. [Dom. Corresp., Jac. I.,
Vol. CLXXIII., No. 12.] Incloses, |
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638. I. Order of the Privy Council on the complaint of the East
India Company concerning the Amboyna massacre.
Whitehall, 1624, Sept. There is also another copy in
French with the names of those present, dated Hampton
Court, 1624, Sept. 27. See Calendar, ante, No. 620. [East
Indies, Vol. III., No. 48.] |
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638. II. [The Privy Council] to the Lord Admiral. The King
having taken resolution, by advice of his Council, upon
complaint of the East India Company, touching the execution of Amboyna, he is required to put in readiness such
ships as are requisite, with orders to seize so many of the
ships and goods of the Netherlands East India Company
as they find either outwards or homewards bound. If the
ships quietly submit, especial care is to be had for their
preservation and for the fair usage of the men until
further order. 1624, Sept. 30. [East Indies, Vol. III., No.
50.] Duplicates of these two inclosures will be found in
Dom. Jac. I., Vol. CLXXII., No. 64, and Vol. CLXXXII.,
No. 62*. |
| Oct. 8. |
639. Court Minutes of the East India Company. After consideration it was agreed that 2,000 copies of the relation of the
Amboyna business should be printed in English "to be spread here,"
and 1,000 in Dutch to be sent over, and that it may not be taken
for a libel, there shall be set upon the front of each book the arms of
this Company, in token that they avow them to be true. Motion
for the payment of the moneys due to [Rich.] Fursland, deceased.
It was answered there is a jewel come home reckoned worth 800 ryals
which Fursland received from the King of Synan as a present, that all
such presents do of right and by covenant belong to the Company, and
instanced Sir Thomas Roe and Edwards; therefore, though the Company will do all that is just, they required this jewel to be brought into
Court. Report of Mr. Governor that himself and others had spoken
with Sec. Conway at Whitehall, who, in answer to their desire to
know, said the letter is already gone to the States and Prince of
Orange concerning the building of a fort and the safety of the Company's goods and their servants' lives in the Indies; that as for the
letter to the Narrow Seas for stay of the Dutch East India Company's
ships there, he must first acquaint the Lord Admiral therewith; that
for the Act of Council concerning the resolution taken by his Majesty
herein, it rested with the Clerk of the Council, who was to draw it
up. On inquiry of Mr. Dickenson it was found Sir William
Beecher had it, but there is straining of courtesy who shall first
sign it, neither could an authentic copy be given until the Commissioners and others had signed it, because it was not an act of the
table but a special committee; that an honourable person had advised them to bring it to a full table, "but withall the Court observed
a cold and slow proceeding," and entering into consideration what
might be the impediment, among other things it was remembered
that Mr. Sec. Conway had been often troubled in this business, for
which, "albeit out of his own nobleness he had refrained to require
anything from the Company," yet it must be considered there are
duties belonging to his place, and that it is not fit to "put him to
make demand;" ordered, therefore, by erection of hands, that he
shall be forthwith presented with 100 20s. pieces, as a thankfulness;
also that the Lord President for his many favours and extraordinary
pains taken in the Company's business, shall be presented with 100l.
in gold, and Messrs. Bell, Styles, and Munnes to receive the money
from the Treasurer and deliver it forthwith. The parties that
robbed the Company's warehouse at Leadenhall condemned to death;
and the son of one of them having confessed to have sold stolen indigo
to one Barnes, a chandler, ordered that Barnes be indicted. Notice
to be given out that the Company purpose to entertain a master for
the London, now outward bound. Request on behalf of "Mr. Purkas
(sic), that writes a history of the world," that the Company would
favour him with a sight of the observation or journal of Mr. Monnox,
which he would only peruse and then return; ordered that Mr.
Ellam shall deliver it and take a receipt for it to be restored within
a convenient time. See ante, No. 305. [Five pages and a quarter.
Court Minute Book, VII., pp. 151–156.] |
| Oct. 8. |
640. Minutes of a Court of Sales. Lists of goods sold, comprising
pepper, mace, sugar, rice, aloes, spikenard, cotton yarn, and bezoar
stones, with names of the purchasers and prices. [One page and
three quarters. Court Minute Book, VII., pp. 156, 157.] |
Oct. 12.
Amsterdam. |
641. Barlow to Carleton. Finds that there is not anything in
print since 1609 concerning the East India voyages, nor much written
that is made public. Illness of Slade, who has lately buried his
wife. Is now to have the final resolution concerning the payment
of the 23,906 ryals. "Their dealing is such as they give not content
to any they have to do withall." Should be glad to hear the
States resolution concerning the business of Amboyna, and whether
the party come from thence hath been examined, he being one of
the principal in that bloody trial. [One page. Holland Corresp.] |
Oct. 13.
London. |
642. P. de Regemortes to Sec. Conway. Arrived once more in
England yesterday. Has made every endeavour, during his sojourn
in Holland, that his Majesty might have contentment for the execution done in the East Indies. Found the Prince of Orange and the
States in trouble, who thought time ought to be conceded them for
sending to the Indies, for information in a matter of so great
importance. Had the reading at Middelburg of the original confession of all those who were executed, also the accusation of the fiscal
and the sentence. The confession in general imports that they had
undertaken to make themselves masters by force of arms of the
fort of Amboyna, as soon as some English ship should come into the
road of Amboyna, to be the better assisted by her men. Sends word
what he has read in the matter, without interposing his opinion.
Finds the goods taken are restored into the hands of the English
Commissioners. His Majesty will hear all from his Ambassador;
does not wish to meddle further in it, feeling some diffidence,
as he naturally leans to the side of England, being a servant of his
Majesty. French. Endorsed, "Mons. D'Aiguemortes." [Holland
Corresp.] |
| Oct. 13–15. |
643. Court Minutes of the East India Company, The Court
satisfied that Fursland had ordered in his will that the jewel shall be
delivered to the Company "as their proper goods;" 800 ryals are to
be deducted out of his estate here for it. Examination of Woodall
charged with seeking his own gain by thrusting his servants upon
the Company; he admits he has seven apprentices as surgeons
mates in the Indies, but has had 20, who are dead; that they are
set out at his great charge, and the benefit he makes is but their
two months' pay yearly, and that such as live to return prove the
ablest for that employment by reason of their practice, as will
appear upon examination of skilful surgeons to whom he refers;
"with that his submitting trial the Court was satisfied;" also concerning a complaint against him in Chancery by John Parker and
Barbara his wife, for goods detained by Woodall, belonging to
Francis Moore, deceased, in the Indies. The men that came home
without leave to have their wages to the time they were shipped
for England. Report received that the master of the Swallow
refuses to put to sea except he be supplied with ship carpenters, the
two carpenters formerly entertained having run away; ordered that
Keeling prosecute them with effect. Mr. Governor reported that
he and some of the committees had attended the Lord President
and Sec. Conway, and that their business moves well, and that they
had also attended the Duke concerning the stay of the Dutch
Company's ships, which were shortly to put to sea for the Indies.
The Duke promised all favour, affirmed that he had given order for
a letter to the Narrow Seas for that purpose; also that he had
written to the Prince of Orange concerning the same, and wished
the Company on all occasions to resort to his servant, Mr. Oliver, who
should always be a means to bring them to his presence. License
having been granted to print the books wherein is set down the Dutch
cruelties, there wants only an "Epistle to the Reader" [see pp. 389–
392]; ordered that Mr. Skinner be called on for a draught, to be viewed
by Mr. Governor and Deputy Governor; the number of books to be
printed and compounding with the press to be left wholly to
Mr. Munnes. Letter read from Richard Leare from Florence, concerning 60 chests of coral to be had there. "The general release to
the Company for all errors past in the Indies under the Broad Seal of
England was at this Court delivered to Mr. Treasurer Stone, to be
by him safely kept." Arnold Browne entertained to go master in
the London at 10l. per month. |
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Oct. 15.—The business between Woodall and John and Barbara
Parker ended by the Governor with the liking of both parties.
Information that more indigo had been stolen out of the warehouse
at Leadenhall; ordered that strict watch bo kept for the thieves.
That 12 letters are directed from the Lord Admiral to the Narrow
Seas and other ports of England to the westward, for stay of the
Dutch East India ships, and also letters from the Lords to the same
effect. Concerning Lord Hubbard's [Hobart] adventure, deferred [see
petition, p. 484]. Concerning the wages and the election of mates,
which is not to be left so freely to masters as heretofore. Mr.
Roberts having declared his sorrow for carrying the Little James
into Ireland, appointed mate in the London, Thornborough, purser,
and George Sherrock his mate. Ordered that no Dutchman serve
the Company with beer. Discussion about calling a General Court
to make known his Majesty's gracious dealing with the Company,
to publish the dividends, and report concerning brokes; also concerning the state of their cash and the necessity of their issues.
"20,000l. will but pay the Mich. dividend; ships are to be sent
out and stock for their trade." Mr. Governor added, that he would
not give over his resolute purpose to deliver the Company from the
great debt that is both a burthen and a disreputation to them.
[Eight pages. Court Minute Book, VII., 158–165.] |
Oct. (15 ?).
The Hague. |
644. Carleton to Sec. Conway. Two of the deputies of the
States General (who would have come yesterday, but that Carleton
was then in no less torment than that of Amboyna) have been to
tell him that the States could not sooner give answer to our men's
complaints by reason of the delays of the Bewinthebbers, who have
now brought a state of the business contrary in many main points to
that of our men, and withall have sent for Hauteman and Mareschalk,
and offer to bring them before Carleton and to communicate to him
the writing of the Bewinthebbers to the States. Told them he
could not undertake the hearing without commission, and advised
them to send these persons into England; that he much marvelled
Mareschalk should be suffered to remain full five weeks at liberty,
and advised them to lay hold of him as an accused person of a
notable crime, and make him answer e vinculis. The deputies said
that so soon as Mareschalk should come within the compass of their
authority (which they do not shame to acknowledge is not very
absolute so far as Zealand), they would do as became them, and if
his Majesty would allow them leisure, which the constitution of
their State requires, they were resolved to give him full contentment,
and withall they beseech his Majesty to consider the heavy war
upon their necks, which takes up much of their time. This being
all Carleton can expect to obtain for the present, he refers it to his
Majesty whether it be better to concur with the States in doing
justice on all who by examination shall appear to have had a hand
in the fact, or by other courses "to reconjoin the States with the
Bewinthebbers in one as in defence of a common cause," which they
will soon slip into if the means now proposed for a reasonable satisfaction be not embraced. In case his Majesty allow of this course,
it will be necessary some fit persons be speedily authorised to join
with General Carpenter in examination of the whole process of
Amboyna and other matters in question betwixt the two Companies.
The occasion was never fairer for our men to have them well settled.
Meanwhile for their trade they may boldly proceed without hazard,
for the States and the Prince of Orange have written to their
General, both for sending hither the Amboyna Governor and Judges,
and to hold good friendship with the English in general, and in particular to accomplish their desire in the three points according to
the States' answer: the first of which is ample and satisfactory; the
second saves their sovereignty in causes not belonging to the general
of the two Companies; the third has two main restrictions—as to
not building forts within 30 miles of the Dutch forts, and forbearing
the Moluccas, Banda, and Amboyna. The States seem religious to
maintain the treaties, but Carleton finds most of them well content
to have the matter taken anew in hand (which is much shunned by
this Company), and more reason may be had of these men now that
the States are divided from them by the horror of this bloody accident. Meanwhile this present resolution will secure our men in the
Indies, the rather if his Majesty suspend without annulling his order
for reprisals. A more satisfactory course cannot be thought of than
fetching those men out of the Indies, for to condemn them unheard
they say agrees not with justice, and to have them tried without the
States jurisdiction, it is impossible to bring them here to consent to.
Understands the Bewinthebbers have agreed to free trade for all in
the East Indies, except returns into these parts, and have made
choice of Coen again for their General ("a man odious to our men,
and so I told the States deputies, noting it as an ill sign of good
intentions"), who shall be sent thither with all expedition with the
seven ships ordained for those parts. These are vast designs—the
mastering of both East and West Indies and taking Antwerp all at
once. Has received letter from his Excellency [the Prince of Orange],
that he has spoken to the States deputies and written earnestly to
their Assembly, to give his Majesty satisfaction in the business of
Amboyna. The date has been erased, and this despatch, which is full
of corrections, rewritten, and was probably sent on the 23rd. See
No. 661. [Eight pages. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 16. |
645. Morris Abbott, Governor, Christ. Clitherow, Deputy, and
four committees of the East India Company to Carleton. It is a
month since they wrote concerning Mareschalke, and sent copy of
their well-grounded demands for their departure from Jacatra and
fortifying in the Indies, concerning which two points they have
with earnest expectation awaited an answer, because of their ship's
readiness to proceed to Jacatra, which stays only to carry this Act.
The proceedings of the Lords Commissioners at Hampton Court and
the King's resolution now registered as an act of the whole Council;
send copy of it (see ante, No. 620). Have this week attended the
Duke of Buckingham, and find he will with all diligence put his
Majesty's command in execution to the uttermost, and that himself
had long since written to the Prince of Orange to procure justice
and reparation, but that seeing no effect produced, he now resolves
effectually to pursue the direction given by force to take satisfaction.
Endorsed, "Rec. 28th." [One page and a half. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 20. |
646. Court Minutes of the East India Company. "It is hoped"
the Swallow is gone out of the Downs. Concerning the freight of
powder and saltpetre from Hamburgh. Letter read to the Lord
Admiral from the Lords of the Council for the stay of the Dutch East
India ships; ordered that it be entered in the "register of letters."
Motions of Sir Robert Naper [? Napier], Sir Edwyn Sands [? Sandys],
and Mr. Hollinshead to take out their dividends in pepper, but there
is not sufficient for them. Mr. Welden's business concerning a payment by Mr. Croppenberghe. Thomas Grove "settled" steward of
the London, and Stephen Jumper his mate. Kenelme Butler's submission accepted. Divers petitions heard (see List, p. 484). [Four
pages. Court Minute Book, VII., pp. 165–169.] |
Oct. 21/31.
The Hague. |
647. [The Prince of Orange] to Sir Noel de Caron. Has taken
from his letters of the 9th and 10th fresh subject for recommending
to the States speedy justice in the affair of Amboyna, though in a
fact of such importance they cannot be expected to break through
their accustomed forms. Their great desire is to give the King
satisfaction, to whom they are under such great obligations and
from whom they hope for the maintenance of their Republic; but
as Republican proceedings are slow they have not yet exhibited
their informations but are confident they will be found very
far from what the English say. Promises to neglect nothing
in his power or his duty to accelerate this business and press for
reparation, if the justification be considered defective. Since one of
the principal judges of the execution complained of, has returned,
there will be no necessity to send to the Indies for fresh proofs; it
is now only a question of a little time, which ought to be conceded
to find out the truth. At all events the State ought not to be made
a party to repair the faults of some of her subjects since we have
quite determined to do complete and speedy [bonne et courte] justice.
To seize the judges without formality of process as is desired would
be to sin against our liberty. Desires him, as a way out of this
unfortunate business, to labour with the aid of his friends that the
deliberations of the King be kept in abeyance while we prepare the
things necessary for his Majesty's satisfaction. This is all Caron
must expect from the Prince. Perhaps the States will write more
fully. French. [Two pages and a half. Extract from Holland
Corresp.] |
| Oct. 21. |
648. Duke of Buckingham to Sir Robert Killigrew, captain of
Pendennis Castle. It is the King's pleasure, upon the complaint of
the East India merchants touching the execution of Amboyna, that
he seize such ships and goods of the Dutch East India Company as
come within his command, and if the ships quietly submit, to take
special care for their safe keeping and fair usage of the men.
[Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CLXXIII., No. 68, Cal., p. 358.] |
Oct. 21/31.
The Hague. |
649. Carleton to the Prince of Orange. Sends letter from the
Duke of Buckingham, by which his Excellency will see the resolutions taken by his Majesty, also request of the English merchants to
the Council, showing how they have been nourished in their mistrust,
by delays and forced to take fresh resolutions for their security.
Beseeches his Excellency to use his accustomed prudence in advising
the States of the remedies. Will be very glad to be honoured with
his commands to accompany his answer to the Duke of Buckingham,
and to be furnished by the States with other stuff for his Majesty's
satisfaction than that which they have until now drawn from the
workshop of their interested merchants. [French. Extract from
Holland Corresp.] Incloses, |
|
649. i. The Duke of Buckingham to the Prince of Orange. 2 Oct.
1624. [French. Calendared ante, No. 631.] |
| Oct. 22. |
650. Court Minutes of the East India Company. That Sir John
Wolstenholme who is authorised by the Council of Virginia to
demand payment of the moneys gathered from this Company's
servants returned from the Indies towards erecting a school in Virginia
on giving a good and sufficient discharge in law, be forthwith paid
the money. Concerning the estate of Thomas Russell, deceased in
the Hart, left to the poor of the parish of Stepney, on whose behalf
the charity of the Company is also solicited as in former years.
Dividends in pepper to be made up to Sir Robert Napper, Sir Edwin
Sandys, Sir Thomas Smythe, Sir John Leman, and others. Request
of Browne, master of the London, that he might not take aboard so
great a quantity of tiles as 15,000; but there being need of a far
greater quantity which must be sent in every ship, he "was required
to apply his liking to their necessity." Request of Mr. Clifton for an
"imprest" of half the 600l. the cost of the proportion of the bread
and meal for the London. Consideration of the business between
the Company and George Ball in the. Star Chamber; the sentence
remains yet imperfect because of the ill health of two of the judges.
Ordered that a committee attend the Lord President and other
judges in the matter, and to complain that a man so heavily
sentenced still enjoys his liberty. Consideration of Ball's desires in
this business; referred for answer until the Company advise with
counsel. Report of the referees in Capt. Welden's business; in
reference to the 800 ryals given to him by the Dutch, his humble
suit is, in respect he lost all when he was taken and carried naked
on shore, having received sore hurts insomuch that he had divers
bones taken out of him, and that the Dutch having taken the ship
he was in, did in commisseration of his case bestow said ryals upon
him. "This Court began to commisserate the man, but then was
brought to their remembrance his great error of fawning upon the
Dutch, suffering them to fasten gifts upon him after their bloody
execution at Amboyna and his drinking healths to the authors of
that bloody plot." On erection of hands whether Welden should
pay back all the ryals, half, or none, the major part was to pay
back half, but he showed no liking to this end, and did earnestly
desire the Court not to lay so heavy a burden upon him which
would exhaust all he had to receive; but the Court at this time
gave no other answer. Order that the Lord Mayor Elect may have
"their chambers at Blackwall to be shot off at the solemnity of his
taking oath at Westminster." Request of Adam Denton that his
suit might be referred to Sir John Walter and Mr. Bancks, and not
come to a hearing in Chancery; was told that when all the money
already due is brought in, the Court will give him answer. [Five
pages. Court Minute Book, VII., pp. 170–174.] |
Oct. 23.
London. |
651. Chamberlain to Carleton. Ten or twelve of the King's ships
are making ready against January with but a month's provisions;
we cannot guess to what purpose unless it be to meet with our
masters, your mayors, seeing we can have no other reasons at their
hands. [Extract from Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CLXXIII.,
No. 82, Cal., p. 360.] |
| Oct. 23. |
652. Morris Abbott, Governor, and four committees of the East
India Company to Carleton. It is so long since they had the comfort of his letters that they have a longing desire to hear how their
business moves on that side. Make account to despatch five or six
ships by the middle of March. Meantime send copy of a letter to
the Lord Admiral from the Lords of the Council for the stay of ships
(see ante. No. 638. II.), whereby may appear that the business stands
not still here. Do not hold it needful over much to stir him up, whom
they have ever found more ready than they could hope. Endorsed,
'Rec. 28th." [One page. Holland Corresp.] |
Oct. 24.
The Hague. |
653. Carleton to Sec. Conway. Desires not to stir from hence
till he can give his Majesty a better account of these businesses of
the East Indies (which he would unwillingly leave so embroiled) for
howsoever, his Majesty could do no other, as things have been
carried, than order reprisals, yet foresees the danger of putting them
into execution, which makes him studious to avoid that extremity.
If it cannot be avoided, hopes it will be done so carefully and
thoroughly on our part that "we receive not a scorn," and therefore
would not have it presumed that these men will strike sale without
resistance, which undoubtedly they will not, unless they find themselves the weaker; but if they be the stronger no commandment
will serve the turn to stop their voyage. Wherefore if it come to
this issue beseeches Conway to reccommend that it may be done to
purpose; "but my hope is, and my uttermost endeavours shall be, as
they have hitherto been, to have such extremities prevented." [Two
pages. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 24. |
654. [Sir D. Carleton] to Dudley Carleton. Looks not for his leave
till the East Indian business be better settled, neither does he desire
to leave things of that nature in such extremities. Will soon see
what can be made of this matter. [Extract from Domestic Corresp.,
Jac. I., Vol. CLXXIII., No. 83, Cal., p. 360.] |
Oct. 25.
Royston. |
655. Sec. Conway to Carleton. Fears from his expectation of
letters some extraordinary mischance to the messenger, or else his
natural defect of being drunk, so sends duplicate of last despatch.
His Majesty, the Prince, and Duke, all approve Carleton's judgment,
and wonder at and despise the manner of the States' proceeding in
the matter of Amboyna. The string of patience is wound as high
as it can be, and must break if it be but held there. To save the
mischiefs that are foreseen the Duke of Buckingham wrote by that
unfortunate messenger (Dixon) to the Prince of Orange; sends copy,
that if the whole despatch be miscarried, Carleton may inform the
Prince of the state of things as they were then, which are now made
worse by the hostile action of the Hollanders in the Downs, reputed
his Majesty's chamber of surety for his own ships and his friends.
May boldly say that by the negligence, malice, or formalities of the
States we shall be constrained, first, to lay hands on the ships of the
Bewinthebbers; if we fail there we shall fall to the fishermen, and,
as the sea-phrase is, "make all fish that comes to net, until we have
won the horse or lost the saddle; and to come to that we shall
attempt assault, and withdraw all that comes from us that will make
us enemies; in dispite of love so seasonably declared, and of patience
so long maintained. You may think we lack not those that will
foment this way, and you may know that there is not an English
heart that can be content to give way to the continuance of those
scorns, insolencies, and barbarisms which have been committed upon
our nation, if justice and satisfaction be not rendered; the giving of
which is justice, peace, and finite; the other is force, war, and infinite,
inasmuch as no man knows where the quarrel will end when it is
begun. God give your States wisdom not to be limed with the interests
of the Particulars and Bewinthebbers, or I dare prophecy these twelve
months to come will bring their vast interprises by sea to a short and
regular station. I shall pray the best, but upon good grounds doubt
the worst. To God and his good guiding of the States' hearts and
your managing I leave it." Endorsed by Carleton, "Recd the
6th of Novr. 1624 by Quester's conveyance." Incloses, |
|
655. I. The Duke of Buckingham to the Prince of Orange, 1624,
Oct. 2. French. Calendared ante, No. 631. [Holland
Corresp.] |
| Oct. 26. |
656. Sec. Conway to Carleton. Copy of the above. Endorsed,
"Sent by Welsh to London to be there delivered to Mr. Williams."
[Holland Corresp.] |
Oct. 26.
Lahore. |
657. Rob. Young and John Willoughby to Thomas Rastell,
President, and the Council at Surat. Their last was of the 15th, with
copy of the King's firman. Have since ordered two Hadjis to go
in company of John Willoughby to take the firman, Cojah having
given them his "parwanna" to see all things restored to them, and
re-established in their former trade and privileges. Wherefore
acquaint them with all moneys that have been taken unjustly,
either in Baroach or for customs which they are not to pay. If anything be denied send them a roll in Persian of their names, and they
will "make ear" to Cojah for his "parwanna" to be sent to restore all
such sums taken. The Hadjis are enjoined to see the firman performed and relate all passages of our business, that Cojah may
understand the truth and our fair carriage with the people of Surat.
Sent on 17th firman to demand payment of 9,457 rupees in Agra,
in which sum is included 3,000 rupees belonging to Morris Abbott
for three emeralds sold to Aseph Khan. Received theirs of 9th Sept.
last night, with other letters from their friends in Agra and Ahmedabad. Are glad to hear of their liberty and the return of those
moneys, not doubting but all other moneys taken in the same
nature will be repaid upon arrival of the Hadjis. The great jewel
lies still on their hands; have privately shown it to the Governor of
Lahore, but he valued it not above 12,000 rupees; have spoken
since to Aseph Khan, but the Nabob will not be brought to above
14,000 rupees; so are of opinion,rather than keep it to have his dis
pleasure, to take that sum. Were with him to day, but his jeweller
was absent, so are to go again to-morrow to make its price. The
main occasion that induces them to accept the Nabob's "voluntary
price" is the Turks' inveterate and daily crying out against them
unto him for justice, throwing their "sashes under their feet and
trampling upon them." Have related to him the cause of their being
enemies with the Turks, viz., for seizing their goods and killing
divers of their men, but hope now the heat of their anger is almost
past. Reasons for sending two Hadjis; it is the more credit to us to
have two, although the charge be a little more, for ever hereafter we
shall have the better respect in Surat, knowing we are again in the
King's favour. If any thing comes worth the King's perusal send it
up, or dogs which will give him content. [Two pages and a half.
O.C., Vol. X., No. 1167.] |
Oct. 27.
Amsterdam. |
658. Barlow to Carleton. Fears that the course our Company
intend in separating from these will not be digested by the States,
and will fall a troublesome business, and that ours will be crossed
underhand in the same; for these are "gellious" [jealous], and fear
that ours intend to join with the Spaniard, and so turn them out.
The Bewinthebbers hold the State in hand that they have sufficient
matter to approve their doings in Amboyna, which they have set
down in a large relation. Boreel gone to the Hague. Lawrence
Mareschalk does not appear upon the summons; holds he will not
be to be found. Has heard that his Majesty had granted to the
Company to intercept the Dutch ships; wishes this had not yet been
divulged, for these will go so fenced with men-of-war as there will
be no meddling with them; yet, till some such course be taken,
there will never good end be made with them. It is certain that
Coen goes to remain principal Commander in the Indies, he being
the fittest man to put in practise whatsoever they intend to have
clone. He has so plotted that this Company have yielded to a free
trade in the Indies, which doth wholly make void the contract with
our Company. They have agreed to send a pinnace and eight ships
to be ready within a month, and have resolved upon a division of
25 per cent. in cloves to the adventurers. Cannot yet meet with
anything written or printed since 1609, concerning the East Indies.
[One page. Holland Corresp.] |
| Oct. 29. |
659. Morris Abbott, Governor, Christ. Clitherowe, Deputy,
and five committees of the East India Company to Carleton. Are
at a stand in their proceedings until they understand the resolution
of the State and Company there. Warrants are sent to the Narrow
Seas and all the ports westward to stay all the Dutch ships of the
East India Company. Have sent away their own pinnace, and have
another good ship ready to depart, and if they may receive the
encouragement promised, they will proceed with all cheerfulness, for
they have in readiness three or four good ships more to go immediately after Christmas. Sec. Conway troubled with them to be thus
at a stand, and was of the mind to send an express to know the reason.
Beseech Carleton to deliver them from these doubts. Meantime
lest the world should think that they can forget the bloody injuries
done to their people, they have published the same by authority in
print, and send him ten books. [One page and a half. Holland
Corresp.] |
| Oct. 29. |
660. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Ordered that
Mr. Dixon, servant to the Lord President, may take out 20 pieces of
calicoes on stock, albeit he is somewhat behind of his payments,
The question between the officers of the Custom House left to the
consideration of the Company, "not doubting but they will hold
proportion with the vastness of their business." Robt. Fotherby's
wages increased. The business of "delinquents" (adventurers in
arrears). Lady Dale's business referred by the King to the Commissioners of the Navy, and Symonson's suit about timber. Motion
of Sir Henry Roe on behalf of Sir Thomas Roe, that the Company
would buy of him "a fayre ballist ruby, ready set, of a good value,"
which he presumes may be useful to be sent into the Indies. A like
motion of Mr. Leate for certain pearls pendant; to be viewed by
some of the most expert jewellers, Sir Peter Van Lore, &c. Complaint of Mr. Barnes, of Albery Hatch, that his brother had been
causelessly imprisoned as a receiver of the Company's stolen indigo;
but resolved, for the reasons stated, to second their former order to
prosecute the man. The pinnace (Swallow) being gone, and a good
ship ready to go, and as yet the Company have not their letters from
the Prince of Orange, the States, and the East India Company of
the Low Countries, "neither will they come except some extraordinary
course be taken to procure them;" in was resolved to entreat Mr.
Sec. (Conway) to send an express to bring them over, and the Company will defray the charge; also to draw a letter to Sir Dudley
Carleton, and send ten copies of the book now printed of the
Amboyna business. Ordered that every committee be allowed five
or six of these books, for themselves and their friends, and that the
Lords of the Council and the principal nobility residing in and about
London be each presented with one of the fairest binding, all which
was performed accordingly. Concerning the cause in Chancery
between the Company and Messrs. John Lamott and Anthony
Gibson, agreed that Mary Cokayne shall have 100 marks in full of
all pretences. Petition of Welden to resume the consideration of his
business; the Court "put it again to hands," but the former order
was confirmed. Concerning the jewel in question as part of Fursland's estate. Mr. Friday, Mr. Hatch, and Mr. Hoore nominated as
preachers, but the choice of one is referred to another Court. Thomas
Thornborough, purser of the London, to look well to the lading of
the ship London "that she be not pestered with lumber;" on further
consideration agreed that 10,000 instead of 15,000 tiles be sent in
her, and Mr. Browne, the master, to be at the next Court. Concerning the business in arbitration between the Company and Captain
Greene, an umpire desired, but referred for consideration. [Five
pages and a quarter. Court Minute Book, VII., 175–180.] |
