Venice: July 1520

Pages 79-84

Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3, 1520-1526. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1869.

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July 1520

[July 6 ?] Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 54. 99. Antonio Surian, Venetian Ambassador with the King of England, to the Signory.
The King has promised to send 1,000 infantry, paid for six months, to succour Rhodes. Had been told this by Cardinal Wolsey, who also desired him not to fear the coming of the Emperor into Italy with an army, as the crown would be sent to him. The Cardinal is very gracious, and of great repute.
Registered by Sanuto, 23rd July.
July 7. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 57. 100. Antonio Surian, Venetian Ambassador with the King of England, to the Signory.
The King to cross a boundary stream between the English and Flemish pale. The Emperor to come to Calais and remain four days, alter which the King returns to England, and the Emperor will go to Flanders.
Calais, 7th July. Registered by Sanuto, 25th July.
July 10. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlviii. p. 135, tergo. 101. Doge Leonardo Loredano to Cardinal Wolsey.
Had long hoped for an interview between the two powerful sovereigns, his confederates, and rejoices it should now have been effected, as, besides demonstrating the good-will borne towards the State by both the Kings, it confirmed his opinion of the ability and wisdom of his Right Reverend Lordship, who could accomplish anything, however difficult, provided it were fair and laudable; whilst the supreme authority deservedly exercised by him in the realm of England admirably facilitated this result.
On hearing, by letters from his ambassadors, that thus had it come to pass, rejoiced exceedingly; extolling the sentiments of the Kings, and the ability and address of the Cardinal. Had congratuled the King, and in like manner congratulates Wolsey, who is deservedly considered his Majesty's second self. (fn. 1) Congratulates him also on the reception given to the Emperor in England; and on the second interview between the sovereigns at Gravelines, devised by his (the Cardinal's) skill to the advantage of the Christian commonwealth. Returns thanks for the honorable terms in which the Cardinal spoke of the Republic at the royal conferences.
Will always revere Wolsey's virtues and rare endowments, and awaits an opportunity for proving the gratitude of the State.
[Latin, 47 lines.]
July 10. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlviii. p. 136. 102. The Same to the Most Christian King of the French. Letter of congratulation on the interview held with the King of England.
July 10. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlviii. p. 136. 103. The Same to the King of England.
Had learned his Majesty's interview with the most Christian King. The Signory's ambassadors had announced the magnificence displayed, and the mutual graciousness, affection, and insuperable feats of both Kings. Such ample demonstrations confirm the necessity for the conference, and must prove acceptable to all Christian powers.
Is much gratified by the King's conference with the Emperor, trusting it may prove advantageous to the Christian commonwealth.
Although the Venetian ambassador had been charged to make this announcement, could not refrain from giving further assurance by word of mouth, as it were.
Ayes, 171. Noes, 5. Neutrals, 0.
[Latin, 25 lines.]
July 10–12. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. GG. 104. Antonio Surian and Francesco Cornaro, Venetian Ambassadors with the King of England and the Emperor, to the Signory.
First conferences between the Emperor and the King. The King went in disguise to the Emperor, accompanied by a Frenchman [De la Bastie] who was remaining at his Court, to report what was done at these conferences. The King, on departing, unmasked himself, and addressed the Frenchman publicly on the spot; so he chooses his understanding with France to be known.
Calais, 10–12 July. Registered by Sanuto, 30th July.
July 12. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 57. 105. Badoer and Giustinian, Venetian Ambassadors in France, to the Signory.
His most Christian Majesty had spoken of his great friendship for the King of England, who had reciprocated in most gracious terms, and had stated it was his intention to confer with the Emperor, and that King Francis was not to be apprehensive of the Emperor invading Italy, for King Henry intended King Francis to retain all his territory, which would descend to King Henry's daughter, as she was to marry his son. King Francis is of opinion England will never allow the Emperor to come with an army to crown himself in Italy.
Boesi [Poissy ?] 12th July. Registered by Sanuto, 25th July.
July 12. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. pp. 66–68. 106. Lodovico Spinelli, Secretary of Antonio Surian, Venetian Ambassador with the King of England, to his brother Gasparo Spinelli, Secretary in France of the Ambassador Badoer.
On Tuesday the 10th instant, I was present at the interview between the Emperor and the King of England. The Emperor was awaiting the King of England. He rode a bay horse, covered with crimson velvet, and having dismounted got upon a dapple grey covered with cloth of gold and silver matching his own simar. He was accompanied by the Cardinal of Toledo, Monsr. de Chievres, the Count Palatine, the Duke of Alva, his brother [Don Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria ?], the Marquis of Brandenburg, clad in cloth of gold and silver, and some hundred gentlemen and knights in black velvet. The whole company did not exceed 200 in number.
The King of England wore a simar of cloth of gold and silver in chequers, and the covering of his horse, a dapple grey, corresponded. He was accompanied by Cardinal Wolsey, the Papal Nuncio, the French Ambassador [De la Bastie], (fn. 2) the Dukes of Buckingham and Suffolk, the Marquis, [Thomas Grey, Marquis of Dorset,] the Bishop of Durham, and all the members of his Majesty's Council. Only a few were dressed in cloth of gold. The company numbered upwards of 300 lords and gentlemen.
The visit was very unceremonious and without any pomp. Their Majesties moved towards each other in advance of their attendants at no very quick pace, and the King of England, omnibus videntibus, before embracing the Emperor, raised his hand to him, and then drew nigh. Thereupon some discussion took place about precedence. At length the Emperor, being within the English Pale, went on the right hand as far as the bridge of boats, which formed the boundary between the two territories. At this spot, after some resistance, the King of England went to the right of the Emperor, and thus entered Gravelines and proceeded to the palace prepared for him, where Madame Margaret was waiting for him in the first entrance hall. After he had embraced and kissed her, both the sovereigns entered the hall, where the repast was prepared, and the Emperor supped with the King.
Today, the 12th, their Majesties dined together at Gravelines, and afterwards came to Calais, where they arrived at seven o'clock. They entered by the Boulogne gate near the King's palace, where the Queen was waiting at the foot of the stair; and when Madame Margaret, who was accompanied by the Cardinal of Toledo, approached, she and the Queen embraced and kissed each other. The hour being then late, Madame Margaret entered her litter, which was covered with black velvet, and went to the Emperor's lodging with her company of 30 ladies dressed in black velvet, and two cars (cari) of another litter covered with black velvet: the Cardinal always preceding the litter of Madame Margaret.
The Emperor and the King followed, in the apparel worn by them yesterday, but on other jennet horses. Their Majesties alone presented themselves to the Queen who was awaiting them. Then the Emperor, on the King's right hand, was accompanied by the King and all the Lords to the house of the Staple, which had been prepared for his lodging. Many of the Lords were dressed in black velvet, on account of the bad weather. After all had returned to their lodgings, Madame Margaret went with her company to visit the Queen; and the King went masked to the Emperor, who was supping alone.
The number of salutes from the artillery in token of rejoicing was incredible. This evening the banquet will be given.
Calais, 12th July 1520. Registered by Sanuto, 30th July.
July 14–18. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 88. 107. Antonio Surian, Venetian Ambassador with the King of England, to the Signory.
Che Emperor departed on the 14th, on his way to his own country, accompanied by the King, who doffed his bonnet on taking leave of him, and gave him two horses; and the Emperor gave two others to his Majesty. A woman (fn. 3) having brought the Emperor his portrait, he gave her a chain worth 500 crowns. A banquet having been prepared for the Emperor at Calais, a gale of wind carried away the canvas roof, so that the repast was of necessity served in a certain small house. (fn. 4) Has heard on good authority that the King told the Emperor not to think of coming into Italy to take the Imperial crown with an army, as it would displease him, because he means to be united with his brother the most Christian King. He also gave the Emperor a certain writing, which has been sent to the King of France for his approval. Details conversations held by him with Cardinal Wolsey, who says there is no fear of the Emperor's coming armed ut supra. He also gave a hint that he was expecting the carpets.
Calais, 14, 16, and 18 July. Registered by Sanuto, 5th August.
Note by Sanuto, that two days ago 60 carpets were sent, worth — ducats.
July 18. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 104. 108. Antonio Surian, Venetian Ambassador with Henry VIII., to the Signory.
The King had crossed over to England re infectâ, and without having come to any agreement with the Emperor, as he, the King, chooses to be French. Cardinal Wolsey had remained at Calais. They were to cross, and proceed to London. The King was taking his pleasure as usual.
Two English noblemen, the brother of the Marquis (fn. 5) and —, talking together, one of them said, “If I had a drop of French blood in my body I would cut myself open to get rid of it;” and the other replied, “And so would I.” The King on hearing this had them arrested, and they are expected to fare badly, unless the most Christian King intercedes for them.
Calais, 18th July. Registered by Sanuto, 13th August.
July 21. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. p. 87. 109. Giovanni Badoer, Venetian Ambassador in France, to the Signory.
Conversations held with the King about the interview between the King of England and the Emperor. The King of England had become entirely the friend of King Francis. The latter is not apprehensive that the former will allow the Emperor to come with an army into Italy.
Poissy, 21st July. Registered by Sanuto, 5th August
July 21. Misti Consiglio X., v. xliii. p. 177. 110. Carpets for Cardinal Wolsey.
Decree of the Council of Ten and Junta. Necessity for raising 370 ducats to pay for the carpets to be sent as a gift to the Right Reverend Cardinal of England. Put to the ballot that the remaining surplus of the Rhenish guilders belonging to the Signory in the. treasury of Treviso be pledged as a security for the said sum.
Ayes, 26. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 10 lines.]
July 22. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. pp. 107, 108. 111. Inaccurate Report made to Piero Trono, Bailiff of Brescia, by Jacomo da Cazago, who professed to have received the particulars from Zuam Maria di Narbona, page of Pietro Carmeliano, Latin secretary of the King of England.
Arrival of the Emperor Charles V. at Dover, on the 5th (sic) May. He was accompanied by the Queen of Castile. On the way to Canterbury the King would not at first allow him precedence, but afterwards placed him on his right hand. The Emperor remained at Canterbury about a week. The King then accompanied the Emperor to the coast of Flanders, with an English fleet of 50 large ships, each of which had two fortified tops. He then returned to Calais, remained there five days, and on the 26th conferred with the King of France across a ditch of such width as to admit of their shaking hands. On the 27th they had a second interview, &c.
On the 1st of June (sic) the jousts commenced, and lasted a month. The first joust was between the King of France and a young English Earl named Devonshire, 18 years old, who was victorious. He received a crown, a ring, and a beautiful page, dressed like a girl, whom he carried off, believing him to be a girl, but on dismounting became aware of the trick. On the morrow the King of England jousted with a French baron, and obtained great honour and victory. On the second day the English and French fought on horseback (sic), on which day the French were victorious. On the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th day, and until the close, several battles were fought on foot, and the English were every day victorious. On the last day of June (sic), a mass of the Holy Ghost was sung in the large house above mentioned (sic), and the Kings pledged their word to be faithful friends as long as they lived, naming as their allies the Pope, the King of Scotland, the King of Denmark, and the Signory of Venice.
After the departure of the King of France, the Emperor on the — of July came to Calais with all his barons and lords of Spain and Flanders. The King received him with great honour and jousts, saying, “We must live in peace in Christendom as we did with your father and grandfather Maximilian, and do you make peace with the King of France, my dear brother; and it will be well for you to go and take the Imperial crown peacefully, and then the war against the Turks will be prosecuted, to which all the other Christian kings and princes will assent.” The Emperor took time to reply until the 28th July.
The reporter quitted Calais on the 22nd July.
Registered by Sanuto, 17th August.
July 24. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxix. pp. 70,71. 112. Hieronymo Lippomano to his son the Prior of the “Trinity” at Venice.
Two days hence Dom. Hironimo Leandro, the Pope's librarian, will depart hence for Germany, with briefs, bulls, and excommunications against such as favour Friar Martin Lutcher.
Rome, 24th July. Registered by Sanuto, 31st July.


  • 1. “Quæ majestatis ejus pars altera merito esse censetur.”
  • 2. See Mr. Brewer's Calendar, vol. in., nos. 905, 913.
  • 3. I suspect this woman (dona) to have been a female artist in the pay of Henry VIII., possibly Alice Carmillian, alias Carmeliano, concerning whom see the “Trevelyan Papers,” (Camden Society publication, 1857,) pp. 144, 148, 160.
  • 4. This “certain small house” was “The Checker.” See Hall, p. 621.
  • 5. Lord Leonard Grey, brother of the Marquis of Dorset.