Minute Book: November 1671, 1-15

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'Minute Book: November 1671, 1-15', in Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 3, 1669-1672, (London, 1908) pp. 954-966. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-treasury-books/vol3/pp954-966 [accessed 26 April 2024]

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November 1671, 1-15

Nov. 6.
Monday.
Present: Treasurer of the Household, Sir John Duncombe.
Send for the Receiver of Hampshire to adjust the account of Hurst Castle for the discharge of the garrison, the sum in the warrant drawn being, as Sir Robt. Holmes alleges, not right.
Warrant for 1,030l. for furnishing the drawing room of the Queen: [the item to be] separate from the Wardrobe [ordinary]: to be paid to Mr. Harvy without account, with interest at 6 per cent.
Sir Robt. Atkins desires Sir Lionell Jenkins may be sent to meet [him] before my Lords to-morrow [concerning the imposition on law proceedings]. Agreed to.
Write the Justices of the Peace of every County and Corporation to put in order the collection of the duty imposed by the Law Bill on the recognizances of the alehouse keepers. Sir Rob. Atkins will bring in the [draft of the] letter.
"Dr. Wren moves that Mr. Laurence attend my Lord Chief Baron, that the [Treasury] Lords think the King ought to have the money, being a super set upon lands of the professors of the mathema: of Oxford; to be set upon the rest of the parish, being that is exempt." In the margin: Mr. Laurence has taken notice of it.
The Commissioners of the Customs [attend]. Sir William Tompson [says] the tideswaiter [gets individually] 14l. per an. and 10s. per week besides. The Commissioners thought fit to lessen the yearly salary and increase their wages when on employment because the greater the day pay is would oblige their attendance. Sir Thomas Clifford moves to bring them back to their own rule to save the King's money. Lord Ashley to consider what would satisfy the tidesmen best. Sir William Tompson and the [Customs] Commissioners to call them all together which without an order he will do and to find out who complain.
Order to Sir Tho. Osborne for the payment of 500l. a week to the seamen themselves that have tickets, or their wives: to be paid out of any money he [Osborne, the Navy Treasurer] has.
Order to Sir R. Long that whatever money remains unpaid on any quarter of the Customs should be the first money paid upon the next [quarter].
The Treasurer of the Household [re] commends Tho. Copps and Thomas Thronly [for places as] tidesmen of London port. Lord Ashley [recommends] Rich. Rhetoricke, James Finney [erased] and Joseph Blackwell as same. Give notice to the Customs Commissioners to enquire of them. Sir John Duncombe [recommends] Basker for the next vacant place of a land carriageman if approved [and] Mr. Crofts for any vacancy as a landwaiter in London, Bristol or Plymouth. [In margin: after Thead.]
The letter and information from Dover about stealers and transporters of wool is to be presented to the Privy Council by my Lords.
Mr. Edward Brampston, Sir John Bramston's brother [is recommended] for a place in the Customs.
"Proposals about additionall dutie imposed on silks [and] linnens: upon the subject matter of 10 per cent. to be rebated upon the merchants payinge ready money."
The paper from the Excise Commissioners is approved and to be entered [being] about a method for the bringing exported beer to a true account, with rules for the future to stand precisely, and for what is past to conform things as near as can be to this method.
In case the Farmers of Excise pay in money without expressing on what duty it is paid [same is] to be placed on the old duty. Order hereon to the Excise Commissioners.
An order for Mr. Howland to deliver up the old leases of the country farms to the present Commissioners of Excise and all such bonds as he has.
Mr. Evelyn, Capt. Cocke, Sir William Doyley and Sir George Downinge are to meet Sir Ro. Howard on Thursday afternoon with the Commissioners [of Accounts] of Brooke House in Little Queen Street. (Write them to attend my Lords on Monday or Tuesday next with an accompt of such moneys as have been imprested for the service of the sick and wounded seamen and prisoners, &c., during the late war with the French and Dutch.)
Viscount Fauconberg called in. Moves that his [orders for his embassy items of] ready money and debt may be used to purchase fee farms. Sir Thomas Clifford says when the money is paid, the orders in the meantime to be transferred [and charged] on the fee farms and then [Fauconberg] to lay down as much ready money as orders [and] then to purchase fee farms.
Sir Rob. Viner called in. [Ordered] to bring in the account of the plate for the Earl of Sunderland and to have an assignment on the Customs.
This day week only the business of the defalcation about the last farm of the Customs is to be heard and settled. In the margin: Sir Rob. Viner has took notice of it.
The officers of the Ordnance delivered in the accounts. Mr. Wharton's orders on the subsidy are to be transferred to the Customs. Four in number.
Mr. Fitz Gerald called in. Sir George Cartwright to attend tomorrow morning to meet him.
Alderman Backwell called in. Send the officers of the Mint the proposal presented by Backwell about [coining] small money. The said officers to attend my Lords hereon on Friday.
Order to the King's officers of the Customs to deliver a weekly account to the [Customs] Commissioners.
Send to Sir Dennis Gawden to know what he has recovered from Lionell Walden.
Mr. Harlackenden, Receiver of Assessments in Kent, to be sent for in custody.
Order for Dame Catherine Sayer, for one year's pension.
Send to the Clerk of the Pipe for an account what money has been paid into the Exchequer by the sheriffs upon their accompts out of the estates of Mr. Broxholme, Receiver of Lincoln, Mr. Weaden, Receiver of Bucks, Mr. Harlackingden, Receiver of Kent, Mr. Price, Receiver of Hereford, Dudley Ruse [Rouse], Receiver of Oxford, and Cadwallader Jones, surety for Mr. Harris, Receiver of Devon.
Mr. Lawrence and Mr. Hall to be present at the apposalls. A letter is written to the Lord Chief Baron that the [Exchequer] Court do order it.
My Lords order Friday morning every week to proceed upon accounts.
My Lords to be reminded to speak with the King about the two Mrs. Biron's pensions.
Mr. Keemer to have his lease without fine.
Write the seven Auditors to bring in accounts of the Hearthmoney on Friday morning.
To speak with Sir R. Long about the books of the King's officers of the Customs [viz. as their method being changed so as] to commence from Michaelmas instead of Xmas.
Warrant on the Lord Chief Baron's privy seal.
An order to stop the cutting of wood in the two woods called Lindhurst and Noeman's wood in Sherwood Forest, claimed by the Marquess [Duke] of Newcastle.
Process to be stayed against Sir John Shaw and his sureties to the fi fa already issued into London, Midd. and Kent.
Mr. Lawrence to speak with the Attorney General about the business of Wadlow, &c.
[Treasury Minute Book IV. pp. 26–31.]
Nov. 7.
Tuesday.
Present: Treasurer of the Household.
Mr. Smith's 1,000l. [order] that he had [received being] assigned on the last [Customs] Farmers [i.e.] Lord St. John and partners, is to be placed on the coinage of tin paid in by the Receiver of the Duchy of Cornwall.
When the place of Havener is passed for Sir William Morice care is to be taken for [said Morice's due execution of] a good surrender of his 100l. per an.
Lord Essex's money that was assigned on the imposition on wine is to be laid on the Receiver General of [the Duchy of] Cornwall: after Mr. Smith's [abovesaid order].
Sir William Temple to have his extraordinaries upon the best fund, deducting out of the sum [total of his bill for same the items of] 378l. and 72l.
Col. Birch [called in] presenting the petition of the town of Penryn concerning the Custom House. Referred to the Customs Commissioners, together with all precedents and papers relating to it. Col. Birch to attend and give a speedy account.
Sir Henry Devicke [for his demands for] the Poor Knights of Windsor is to be placed on a good fund. In the margin: Speak with him where he would desire it.
The last Monday in this month, the 27th inst., is appointed for hearing the petition concerning the town of Penryn, Cornwall, praying that the town may be made a coinage town. Notice to be given immediately to the coinage towns Lostwithiel, Truro and Helston, that if they have anything to allege they may then be heard. Notice also to be given to Mr. Sidney Godolphin and Mr. Titus.
The officers of the Wardrobe [called in. Order for a] privy seal for them: but my Lords to speak with the King about the Duke of Buckingham's 110,000l. [sic for 11,000l.] which he demands for the Master of the Horse to be by itself.
Sir Ste. Fox stayed till Monday next when the [late] Farmers of the Customs are to be heard.
My Lords have heard Sir George Carteret and Mr. Fitz Gerarld and they find it paid and will grant a report accordingly. In the margin: When Mr. Fitz Gerald comes.
Sir Rob. Atkins and Sir Lion. Jenkins [called in and are heard concerning certain items of the duty on proceedings at law]. Sir Lionel Jenkins. If oaths [affidavits] were brought to pay duty on the Law Bill then promissory oath would be brought in and then the civil courts would be the heaviest charged. My Lords say where there is any fee taken the law lays the tax and they will order. [Ordered] that Sir Rob. Atkins and Sir Lionell Jenkins prepare an order to be the rule (viz. for oaths and affidavits to pay in the Ecclesiastic Courts) and to represent it to my Lords.
See Aaron Lawson's patent and if it expresses what he desires then prepare it.
Thomas Jackson and Christopher Jackson to attend my Lords this day week and not to be arrested in the meantime.
Lord Colepeper engages to pay such gunners and others belonging to the Isle of Wight (that have any money due [to them] upon what he has [received] or shall receive from the King) by giving them assignments upon his orders. And Sir Robert Holmes is to pay such moneys as are due to said Colepeper from him. (In margin: Wolseley to draw a letter to Sir Ro. Holmes accordingly for me [Sir Ro. Howard] to sign).
My Lords will speak with the King about Mr. Charnock's petition to change his life [interest] in a King's waiter's place [in London port] which my Lords are willing to do but they will first speak with the King because of some reversions granted of King's waiter's places.
Warrant for a year for Earl of Dorset's creation money.
[Treasury Minute Book IV. pp. 31–3.]
Nov. 10.
Friday.
Present: Lord Ashley, Treasurer of the Household, Sir John Duncombe.
To speak with Sir Rob. Long and show him the parchment contract of the Duke of Buckingham concerning the stables, which is to be approved by my Lords. Consult with him on the manner and form and all things belonging to it. Put my Lords in mind to present the King with the Duke of Buckingham's contract and the Wardrobe caveat. Sir Rob. Howard to attend the Duke of Buckingham and see him sign the contract and be a witness to it.
Upon the petition of Sir R. Long my Lords ordered that the tenants should be prosecuted according as prayed and that there should be a 31 years' lease of the land after it is recovered: to be granted to Sir R. Long.
A privy seal to be drawn for 6,022l. for the extraordinary of the Great Wardrobe.
As to the 4,000l. odd for the Navy, payable out of the Queen Mother's jointure, a moiety is to be first paid, then to proceed [in payment of said Queen Mother's debts as] upon the schedule and then to pay the other moiety to the Treasury of the Navy. A warrant [to be got] from the King to that purpose. [In the margin: Sir Rob. Long said he will draw this warrant].
Sir Gervas Ellwaies called in. Mr. Lawrence to advise with the Attorney General about a failure of Mr. Edward Kinge of Suffolk [as to] whether the bonds and other debts due to him intitled to the King without an inquisition: and to attend Sir Gervas Ellwaies and deliver him the return: and Mr. Clerke to be empowered to receive such moneys as are due.
My Lords will sit on Tuesday morning wholly upon the business of Wadlow. Send him notice, also Sir R. Long, Sir C. Harbord, Col. Birch and both the [sets of the late and present Wine Act] Commissioners; together with Mr. Bowes, brother in law to Mrs. Colvile, Capt. Kingdome, Mr. Greene and Auditor Aldworth.
After New Year's Day the first of every month a 1,000l. to be paid [from the Customs] till [a total of] 10,000l. [be paid] from [the Customs and to be in lieu of] the King's New Year's gift.
The King's privy seal to be 45,000l. [? for the Privy Purse].
Sir Allen Apsley's arrears are to be on the fee farm rents.
Mr. Packer and the officers of the Works are to view the railings of the New Park and return to my Lords an opinion whether done according to the contract.
Warrant according to Mr. Griffen's privy seal.
Mr. Smith to have 500l. for his lease in Moore Park and to enjoy the profit till Michaelmas next.
John Edwards called in: Master of the "Speedwell," which belonged to the King's patent officer: says, being aboard some ships in the Downs, he saw some goods [? boats] unlading tobacco. He stopped and seized it. They took it in. He went to demand the seizure. They had like to have sank his boat. The ship was under sail. He desired him as the King's officer to bring the ship to the lee. He refused. He went to do it himself. The master, Mr. Picques, pulled him into the cabin and struck him on the face, commanded to throw him on deck and over board and beaten. A dog fell on him. The boat had a sail to fetch up the ship. He told them they had done more than they could answer. They told him they cared not a turd for his power. His hair was bloody. Mr. Picques says he knows nothing of the tobacco. Said John Edwards' boat was almost sunk. He was walking on the deck; never told his authority and the pilot deny him to bring his ship to lee. He said he would do it himself. Picques asked him why he did and hustling together the bitch seized him. Picques bad him begone and he refusing the master threw him on deck. He told him he had done what he could not answer and said he was an officer and then shewed his deputation which was for things outwards bound.
The Treasurer of the Household observed he [Edwards] told not what he was till afterwards and that he made not his complaint concerning the goods, and thinks Mr. Picques not to blame. Yet Sir Jo. Duncombe warned Picques that there was a fault that they did not take care of the King's Customs: Both to be discharged, and Picques with moderate fees.
A letter for my Lords to sign to the Commissioners of Accounts to determine their accounts before them and what inconveniences 'twould be to have them transferred to an auditor and the inconvenience of the condition of it.
Alderman Backwell's proposition about small silver money is to be heard on Wednesday morning.
My Lords will speak with the King on Sir Ralph Delavell's petition.
This day week Smith and Kinge to be heard by counsel, the first business. Notice to be given.
Mrs. Penerie's petition and docquet is referred to Sir C. Harbord.
My Lords order Mr. Coates to have liberty till the end of the term to go down to examine witnesses.
Capt. Hill's papers to be transmitted to Auditor Phelips.
The three letters to Lostwithiel, Helston and Truro about coinage [town right petitioned for by Penryn] were delivered to Col. Birch to send.
Sir Rob. Howard reported to my Lords that according to their commands he had attended the Commissioners of Accounts, yesterday afternoon, being Tuesday, Nov. 9, where he only found the Lord Brereton and Col. Tompson. They told Sir Rob. Howard that they could not get a quorum but were willing to give him the best information they could as private persons, and accordingly in relation to Capt. Cocke they said that there was some difference in the accounts of Capt. Cock about the interest which amounted to some 4,000l. or thereabouts. They said they were willing to allow Capt. Cock's interest from the date of moneys paid but Capt. Cock accompted upon interest from the time he borrowed money and by reason of the necessity of the service he was forced to borrow money beforehand still and in his accounts asserts from what days, but the Commissioners demand the names of the persons as well as time from whom he borrowed the money which would make out by their ledgers the time of his borrowing it. Sir Ro. Howard demanded of Capt. Cocke if he would deny there was any due from him. That he said he could not do.
As to the Earl of Anglesey's account they [the Commissioners of Accounts] differ with the said Earl about 40,000l. charged by said Earl to be in Sir Thomas Player's hands. The Commissioners demand the vouchers which said Earl refuses to leave with them but refuses not to show. But they say the Act directs it, and Lord Ashley's, Sir Ste. Fox's and others' vouchers were left with them. They also except against the account of 116,000l. of said Earl's that it is not the same method in the other part of his accounts, where he expresses when he charges sums paid what it is for and what commodities. But in this account of about 116,000l. he preserves not this method as in the rest of his account by specifying for what every sum of money was paid.
The Commissioners also except that there are tickets to the value of 16,000l. brought in to be made money in said Earl's accounts.
Mr. Christian's letter referred to Sherwyn, Webb and Fillingham.
The paper from the Customs Commissioners of the 6th inst. is to be entered as margined and amended.
The certificate as to the securities of Mr. Lambe, Receiver of Hearthmoney for Kent, is approved and a warrant ordered.
The security proposed for Mr. Weaver, Receiver General of Surrey and Southwark, is approved.
[Treasury Minute Book IV. pp. 34–8.]
Nov. 13.
Monday.
Present: Lord Ashley, Treasurer of the Household, Sir John Duncombe.
Mr. Bernard Howard, Sir Peter Killigrew and Mr. Brunker enter a caveat that no life be changed in the Customs for the place of a King's waiter without their knowledge.
Sir Thomas Osborne called in. A warrant for him [for the Navy] for 4,657l. out of the Queen's [the late Queen Mother's late jointure] revenue. To be [the] first [item] paid thereout.
The petition of George Wood is referred to Sir R. Long, said petition setting forth that his father was Auditor of the Imprest and had taken great pains in stating many accounts and engrossing same but they not being passed before his death, Mr. Auditor Weild who holds the same office refuses to allow him the dues and fees which of right belonged to his late father amounting to a considerable sum of money: and praying an order to said Wild to pay him said fees or a proportion thereof. Sir C. Harbord, Sir R. Howard, Auditor Beale and Sir Ed. Sawyer to agree the matter if they can; if not, to report to my Lords. (Out Letters General III. p. 17.)
Sir Thomas Osborne called in. The Navy debt accordingly as it uses to be [erased] to be registered. See the privy seal my Lords granted. A warrant upon this. Sir Rob. Long took notice of it. See the Treasurer of the Navy. Sir R. Long promised to draw it in four or five great orders. To speak with Sir R. Long about [this] and desire him to be here to-morrow morning. Write the Commissioners of the Navy, Sir R. Long and Sir G. Downing to attend my Lords this day week concerning the registering the old Navy debt upon the Wine Act and meantime to inform themselves as much as they can how much of that debt (viz. debts included in the privy seal grounded upon the list from the Navy Commissioners) has been paid since the passing of the privy seal. Also write them [the Commissioners of the Navy] to be very exact for the future in making their weekly certificates of the debts and payments of the Navy as formerly or usually has been done, and that they complete the returns for the time during which they have discontinued to send them. [Write also to the like effect] to the Treasurer of the Chamber. (Out Letters General III. p. 14.)
The late Customs Farmers called in with Auditor Beale. Sir Tho. Clifford says the three years they claim the medium of, one of them was excepted against because there were many prizes and they desired the medium of 1661 and 1662. Mr. Backwell says it was in commission in those years. The Treasurer of the Household says the King's officers can give an account of what was imprested, whether by bills of store or otherways, and they [my Lords] would allow the bills of store. Alderman Backwell says they were invited to take the Customs when they took it. The Treasurer of the Household says they [my Lords] allow that; they [my Lords] perceive the accident that made them [Backwell and his partners] be farmers, and therefore [thinks that it is first] to be questioned whether the Imposition on Wines or some other accident causes the diminution. Alderman Backwell [says] the first year an imposition is laid it operates most. Lord Ashley says when there was a medium of [or average of the yield of the Customs deduced from the years] 1664, 1665, 1666 there were no exports to be examined. Sir Rob. Viner says they export bad wines to save the duty. The Treasurer of the Household says they are to consider the years 1661 and 1662, then that 1664, 1665, 1666 was great exports. The Farmers retired and come in again. My Lords insist on the years 1661 and 1662, which the Farmers say is not a proper year for them. Lord Ashley says all is but a guess. The duties of the wines are now higher than any [erased] as high, yet the new Farmers [Ld. St. John et al.] would have given much more. Lord Ashley proposes to make a proposition upon the whole, being a confused business, and offers 30,000l. The Farmers withdraw to consider.
In the mean time Mr. Mounteney came in and desired to know what security he is to give. He is to speak with Sir R. Long and Sir R. Howard about it.
Memento: to enter Sir Th. Osborne's paper.
The King's gift to the poor of Westminster and St. Martin's [is] to be made for the Broad Seal during his Magestie [erased] to be a privy seal for 100l. per an. during pleasure.
Petition from the Earl of St. Albans desiring that his term of 20 years in several lands in the manor of St. James's (viz. as follows: the Round Rundles, the Dog Yard, Swallow Field, Bunches Close, Kempes Field, Dogghouse Field, Brown's Close, the Laystall Garden, and Wats Close near the Tennis Court in Piccadilly, the tenements and ground thereunto belonging, lying on the west side of St. James's St.; all with the tenements thereon erected) may be made equal to the term in the rest of the bailiwick of St. James's. Referred to Sir C. Harbord. (Out Letters General III. p. 18.)
Petition from Adrian Poest alias Vander Poest, praying a lease of part of a house called Vaux Hall alias Fox Hall, for 31 years upon the death of Peter Jacobson, who holds same by lease under the Exchequer Seal. Referred to Sir C. Harbord. (Out Letters General III. p. 16.)
The late Farmers of the Customs [come] in again. Sir Rob. Viner answers that they cannot accept of such a sum as 30,000l. [for] defalcation. Offer to take 100,000l. and abate the odd 39,000l. Sir Thos. Clifford speaks of the rent. Mr. Alderman Backwell [says] that the Auditor should bring in the account. Auditor Beale and Auditor Wilde to attend on Wednesday morning with the accounts of the Farmers what rent is due for 1670 and 1671. The Farmers come in again and offer to take 700,000l. [sic for 70,000l. as defalcation allowance]. Referred to Sir R. Long, Sir C. Harbord, Sir R. Howard, Mr. Sherwin and Auditor Beale to take an account of the late Farmers of the Customs of the impost of wine which they were collectors of during their farming the Customs. The Farmers come in again and Sir R. Viner offers to take 60,000l. Lord Ashley says to end all with kindness to them offers to represent it to the King to let them have 40,000l. and this is final. They submit to my Lords [the following view] and beg to know the King's pleasure by my Lords [viz. for my Lords] to acquaint the King that they demanded 60,000l. and my Lords thought 40,000l. fit to be allowed.
Take care to give notice that all such that have accounts [ready for declaration] should be brought in every Friday morning. Send to [Col. Webb and] Mr. Sherwin about the Hearthmoney, to have some of the most needful [accounts ready] every Friday morning (to return every Friday morning all such accounts as well of the Hearthmoney as of any other branch of His Majesty's extraordinary revenue which shall be brought in to them and shall be ready for consideration. Out Letters General III. p. 13.)
Edward Brampston to be a landwaiter in Mr. Kerby's place in London port.
Warrant that Cotes and Hill have liberty to go at large till the end of the term, giving to the Warden of the Fleet good security to return.
Sir Thomas Osborne, Treasurer of the Navy, came in and proposed a paper to my Lords, viz.:—
(1) To get his ill [charged or ill-funded] orders changed [on to some other fund offering great security or likelihood of payment]. In the margin: My Lords direct those orders to be brought in.
(2) Upon change of them to get the 10,000l. supplied which was directed to the Victualler. In the margin: The 10,000l. is only part of the general estimate and therefore needs no particular care.
(3) [An] order [from my Lords] for paying 500l. per week to [meet or pay off] the old tickets of the parties [seamen] themselves who have not disposed of them. To be paid out of any money in my [Osborne's] hands. In the margin: Such an order to be [made out]. (Memorandum: to ask my Lords whether this is not most proper [to be conveyed as an authorisation] by a letter [from the Treasury] to the [Navy] Board.)
(4) For payment of interest half-yearly out of the money in my [Osborne's] hands at the rate of 10per cent. In the margin: Warrant [ordered] for it.
(5) For allowance not exceeding 10 per cent. in old bills or tickets for the borrowing of money, with the interest for the whole. In the margin: Warrant [ordered] for it.
(6) For allowance of interest for the said bills and tickets equally as for the ready money. In the margin: This is comprehended in the fifth particular.
(7) For repayment of money and interest to such creditors as shall lend upon promise to be repaid upon three months' demand out of the money of the Navy in my [Osborne's] hands. In the margin: My Lords dislike it.
[Treasury Minute Book IV. pp. 38–42.]
Nov. 14.
Tuesday.
Present: Lord Ashley, Sir John Duncombe, the Treasurer of the Household.
Mrs. Hardin to have a warrant for half a year's pension.
Write to Brewer upon complaint of the Duke of Richmond about a ship of coals. To speak with me [Sir R. Howard] why he detains the coquet sent from Sir Ral. Delavel. (Write him to attend my Lords on Monday next at three to give an account of his detainment of the said Duke's pleasure boat and other things alleged against him in that business.) Wolseley [the Treasury clerk] to take the directions from the Duke of Richmond, and send for the man.
(Out Letters General III. p. 20.
Enquire of Edward Roockwood who was for eight years a tidesman at Gravesend.
[Order for] Richard Meredith for a [place as] landwaiter in London or Bristol port when it falls vacant.
The grant of the Additional Excise with the warrant is referred to Sir R. Long, Sir C. Harbord, and Sir R. Howard to examine whether same agrees with the other grant of the London Excise.
The business of Jackson [is considered and he] called in. The affidavit of Dawes against Jackson is read, also that of Charles Snap, viz., that demanding Hearthmoney, he was beaten by Christopher Jackson, who threatened him also. One [appearing] for Mr. Jackson says there was a difference in law with the [last] deponent and Mr. Jackson. The Chimney man entered and there was a distress. Enough below, but going up he was asked by Mr. Jackson's son why he went up. He said he would view the chimneys. Jackson's son replied that he knew how many chimneys [there were] before, but he called him rogue and said he would go up. Then they fell to fighting. Several affidavits in behalf of Jackson. Upon the hearing my Lords discharge Christopher Jackson. and will enquire further after Snap the chimney [officer]. Send to Dunkly (Dunklyn) to bring his officer Snap (Snape, who is a Hearthmoney collector under him) with him on Monday morning next. (Out Letters General III. p. 19.)
Mr. Wadlow and the Vintners and Col. Birch, Capt. Kingdome and others are called in with Auditor Aldworth. Auditor Aldworth read an [order of] reference and offers Mr. Wadlow's account and desires he would sign it. He said that Mr. Wadlow will owe 30,000l. when they have allowed him all his demands. Wadlow refuses to sign his account: at last signed it. Capt. Kingdome said there is not much difference in the charge of either of the Commissioners [of the Wine Act]; the point [of difference] lies in the credit Mr. Wadlow demands. (1) Observes his credit consists in orders of loan. Good. (2) Interest at 6 per cent. (3) [Reward or gratuity] of 4 per cent. (4) Upon [the question as to the] point of time when the interest shall be take place. (5) Charges which Wadlow demands, which they [the Commissioners] thought comprehended in 23,000l. (6) Money resting in other men's hands. Lord Ashley observes that Wadlow, having the money in his hands after the order received, he ought not to receive interest. Lord Ashley urges the equity that if money be not paid in lump they shall be sued for no more than remains. Wadlow urges that he discharged quarterly in the Exchequer and would account quarterly and that they cannot account upon every order as it issues. Auditor Aldworth says it may. Lord Ashley says he may be allowed his interest half-yearly as they do to other men. Wadlow says he has made up no interest account. Sir Thomas Clifford said when the [first Wine] Act passed for 300,000l. [sic for 310,000l.] the King let it to Wadlow and a contract at three days of payment and 130,000l. [sic for 13,000l.] for charges. After [by] an order of King and Council if they paid by such days they should have interest: if he did not advance before those three days for aught he knows the King ought to have interest of the King [sic for said Wadlow]. My Lords declare the rule for interest, if interest shall be allowed: [viz.] to account the interest of 6 and 4 [per cent.] every six months, and the remainder of the money. in Wadlow's hand to be accounted on the next order [sic for account]. (In margin: An order of rule to Auditor Aldworth.) My Lords allow not the charges Mr. Wadlow has paid in the Exchequer for fees. Mr. Wadlow must give in the particulars of the 3,250l. and the accounts upon charges to be made appear by particulars. The 130,000l. [sic for 13,000l.] out of the Customes towards management he gives himself credit for and never makes himself debtor on his accounts but is to be allowed interest from or about the time he did advance it [his various portions of the total advance money on the Act] according to order. There is a consideration for interest allowed [viz.] upon the consideration that Wadlow advances money before the days [prefixed] therefore it argues no interest is due for money [if paid] after the days. An order for Mr. Wadlow to bring in (produce) his vouchers to the Auditors for payments by him made of such moneys as he craves allowance for, in relation to the matters depending before said Auditors; and they to give him receipts. Mr. Wadlow to have copies of all he demands. My Lords agree that it be referred to Auditor Aldworth to state the difference of the account between Mrs. Colvile and Mr. Wadlow. Mr. Wadlow has bonds of the collectors of the lower districts which he is to deliver in to Sir Ro. Howard and [such] other bonds [as he did agree to deliver to Sir R. Howard]. [Ordered] that the information against Wadlow and his partners be rigorously prosecuted. Mr. Hall the Attorney [to take care hereof]. (Out Letters General III. p. 19.)
Direction to the Customs Commissioners upon the petition of Christopherson, that the money be restored.
To speak to the King that Mr. Buggins may have his pardon.
[Treasury Minute Book. IV. pp. 43–6.]
Nov. 15.
Wednesday.
Present: Lord Ashley, Sir Thomas Clifforde, Sir John Duncombe.
The Earl of Carlingford, Sir William Bucknall and others concerned in the Irish [revenue of wine licences] farm are to attend my Lords on Wednesday next about the order of Council concerning Wine Licences.
John Seaborne [nominated] for a landwaiter's place in the Customs; on the recommendation of the Treasurer of the Household.
Mr. William Harbord to attend on Friday morning [erased].
On Thursday morning remember to deliver the Treasurer of the Household the report concerning Lord St. John and partners.
My Lords will ask the King about Thomas Carter's petition to surrender his place as a King's waiter to Mr. William Burroughs.
Warrant for Ann Golding for half a year's pension.
A warrant presently to stop the moneys concerning Sir Ralph Delavale that is receiving by his son and daughter-in-law by the King's special command. (In margin: Sir Rob. Howard undertook the care [hereof].)
A warrant for Mr. Charnock to exchange his King's waiter's place according to his petition. But [the new appointment to be made] for during pleasure.
Draw a report to the King for William Harbord according to Sir Ro. Long and Sir C. Harbord's report. (In margin: To be offered again to my Lords on Friday. A recompense to be asserted.)
Upon the return from the Customs Commissioners concerning the case of Capt. Bonnet's ship being incapable of going to sea and therefore the goods are desired to be unladen into another ship, my Lords order the Commissioners to report more particularly concerning the inabilities of the ship, wherein their equity is to be grounded.
On Monday afternoon my Lords will hear the case about decayed wines. Col. Birch, Capt. Kingdom and Mr. Green are to attend with Sir R. Long and Sir C. Harbord.
Enquire whether Madame's 5,000l. be not paid.
Alderman Backwell and the officers of the Mint called in, and said Backwell's proposition concerning small money is read. Mr. Slingsby desires that the Mint may give in writing their reasons also. The remedy of 6d. in 62s. was ever since Q. Elizabeth's days. There is 6d. more desired for a remedy for small money and 63s. sterling silver in tale in every pound weight, so that 64s. in these small moneys in one pound weight shall be lawful moneys. The Treasurer of the Household says there should be small moneys. Mr. Slingsby said they are going to contract with the workmen. He says also that because the workmen cannot cut at an exact weight there is a remedy allowed to save the melting down for a little difference. Proposed instead of 6d. a remedy of 12d. and instead of 62 shillings [to the pound weight of silver by tale] 63s., so the difference [between his proposition and Backwell's] is 12d. The Treasurer of the Household asks if the King were to make small money what remedy Mr. Slingsby would ask or whether any. Mr. Slingsby confesses there must be a greater remedy for such small money. The Treasurer of the Household observes that there must be a remedy if such small money be made. Ordered to refer to the Warden, Master and Worker and Comptroller of the Mint Backwell's proposition about coining small silver moneys; to consider upon the whole, and after treating with the workmen, to report what remedy and standard they would affer for the making of small money (what remedy is to be allowed in making this coin and at what rate they will undertake it). [To report] with what speed they can. Alderman Backwell will have 63s. certain [for standard] so that the remedy must be more. (Out Letters General III. p. 17.)
Warrant for the Duke of Richmond on the Customs for arrears of pension as a Gentleman of the Bedchamber.
Lord Lovelace's order is ordered to be charged on the Customs.
The business of farthings is to be heard on Monday in the afternoon.
Send to Sir R. Long for the Imprest roll for last year.
James Davis to be night waiter at the Customs.
Thomas Doyley's petition referred to the officers of the Mint to examine his accounts and report what may be fit for his gratification.
Sir Thomas Williamson's petition to be heard on Monday next on reference from the King.
Warrant to be drawn on the fee farms for 4,442l. 11s. 11d. to the Earl of Sandwich, being the stated sums of his arrears due at Lady Day last; and likewise 4,000l. to purchase [out] and take off his growing allowance of 531l. 5s. 11d. per an. Both these sums amount to 8,442l. 11s. 11d., and Sir R. Howard is to take care that said Earl discharge the King of the arrears and the growing revenue.
Several sub-collectors of Hearthmoney in Surrey are to be summoned to attend the Treasury on Monday next.
[Treasury Minute Book IV. pp. 46–9.]