Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Veneris, 12 Martii
Earl of Holdernes.
L. 2. Earl of Holdernes his Bill : - Committed to Sir Peter Hayman, Mr. Alford, Sir Nico. Tufton, Sir Hen. Poole, Sir Cha. Morrison, Sir Will. Herbert, Mr. Fetherstone, Mr. Godfrey, Mr. Recorder, Sir Tho. Midleton, Sir Fra. Seymor, Sir Dug. Digs, Sir Fra. Barnam, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Edw. Sandys, Mr. Whitfeild, Mr. Sherfeild: - Monday, Court of Wards, Two a Clock.
The Explanation of the Secretary's Message, concerning my Lord Keeper, to be entered in the Book. Sir Edwin Sandys added to this Committee, This Committee also to search Precedents, in what Manner Entries have been used to be made.
Mr. Secretary reports from the Conference Yesterday with the Lords. - None speak, but the Prince alone ; who said, that Lord Treasurer having made Relation to the Lords, of King's Necessities ; and thereupon a Doubt arising, what King intended by it, gave this Sense of it, which he did ; and fearing the like Doubt, Lords commanded him to do the like to us : - King intended not, that we should take a present Consideration of his own particular Estate, but, that he could not enter into a War, without us; but, that, this being done, no difficult Thing to settle his Estate in due Time. Another Doubt, lest the King should be slow to call us together again :- -
Next wished, we would consider, how far this gone; - Required Expedition. - The Year far spent - And remembers, how far we had irritated those, that Enemies hereafter. - Fit to provide, that we may not only shew our Teeth, but bite, if Occasion : - And bade us have a special Care of his Honour, being his first Action. -
Sir Rob. Philips: - Agrees with the last Motion. - Will speak Two Parts : The Necessities of the King ; 2. The Necessity of the present Occasion. - In the first observed, that, though hitherto an Agreement between Lords and us, yet here our Genius before them. - No Scruple here. - We shall then be better able to relieve his Majesty, when we have relieved the Commonwealth. Such an Invitement never descended from a Prince to his Commons. That Journey into Spaine, to fetch a Wife, brought home a Prince wedded to the Virtue of the last Prince of Wales, that was in Spaine. -
Message to the Prince.
Chancellor Duchy : - Never rejoiced in any Parliament but this. - Here clear and plain Dealing between King and Subject. Not ordinary for this House to send Messages, or Compliments, to the Prince. - To have some few, to draw the Form of a Message.
Mr. Treasurer, Two Secretaries, Chancellor Exchequer, Mr. Comptroller, Sir Ed. Coke, Sir Rob. Philips, Chancellor Duchy, Sir Fra. Cottington, Sir Edw. Sandys, Mr. Recorder, Sir Jo. Savyle, Sir Ben. Ridiard, Sir Dud. Diggs, Mr. Alford, Sir Fra. Seymour, Sir Jo. Elliot, Sir Geo. Moore: These are to consider of a fit Frame of a Thanksgiving and Message to the Prince.
Englishmens Children Nat.
L. 1a. An Act for the Naturalizing of such Englishmens Children, as have served the States of the Low Countries, as Soldiers, since his Majesty's coming to the Crown, for their better Encouragement and Relief. -
Jesuits, &c, exporting Money.
Sir Edw. Seymour, Sir Tho. Jermyn, Sir Edw. Cecill, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Sir Fra. Barrington, Sir Hen. Poole, Sir Will. Beecher, Sir Ar. Ingram, Sir Edw. Villiers, Sir Will. Howard, Sir Guy Palmes, to inform their Lordships hereof; and to desire them to take a present Course, to prevent the Exportation of Money. Sir Edw. Cecill to deliver the Message, and report back again to the House.
Mr. Glanvyle reports from the Committee of Privileges. - The first Case was of Chipenham. The due Election for John Maynard, but Charles returned by a Mistake. - The Opinion of the Committee, that the Return ought to be mended. -
For Sir Fran. Popham, even Voices. The Court adjourned till another Day. Then Mr. Pym had the Plurality of Voices. - The Opinion of the Committee, that not only the Mayor and 12 had Right of Election. The Opinion of the Committee, that a new Writ ought to go out; because Mr. Pym, duly elected, hath waved; and Sir Fra. Popham not duly elected.
Report and Conference.
This next; that the Committee, if the Lords entertain it, to be directed to these Two: To have Authority to shew this Draught to them; with this Power, that, as Cause, Power to alter it, not in Substance, but only in Form. - Agreed. -
Message to the Prince.
Answer from Lords.
Chancellor Exchequer reports from the Lords - They take in good part the continued Correspondency of this House: Appointed a Committee of 24 of their House ; and, because there may be some emergent Occasion, have ordered their House to sit this Afternoon: - This Afternoon, Painted Chamber.
Veneris, 12 Marti - Post Meridiem
- That they did hope, out of our Love to them, and Correspondence, and Gravity of our Committee, would not think it long, they had stayed so long: - Had read it over in their House, and passed it, by a general Vote; but only in One Place, " The Lords and Commons," - Then moved, in what Way to represent to his Majesty.
- To have a Committee, if this House think fit, to understand his Majesty's Pleasure, when to attend him. - 24 of their Lordships. - If our House agreed to this, they intended, my Lord of Canterbury -
Sir Edw. Coke reports from the Committee of Grievances, a Patent, questioned, of the Dutch Congregation in Colchester. - An Order made by the Attorney and Solicitor, which was approved of by the Committee, as fit to be observed by them.