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House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 13 February 1607 (2nd scribe)

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Veneris, 13o die Februarii, 1606

Soham Manor.

2. Reading : - B. Of Confirmation of Letters Patents, made by the King's Majesty to Sir Roger Aston, Knight, and James Grimsdich, Gentleman, &c. Committed to the former Committees. Sir H. Poole added.

Marshalsea Court.

2. Reading: - B. For Reformation of Abuses, and the due Execution of Justice, in the Court of Marshalsea of the King's Houshold, and the Vierge of the same: Rejected, upon the Question.

Union with Scotland.

The Remembrances being delivered in, after the Adjournment of the Court, being delivered in, by Sir H. Mountague, to the Clerk; it was now exacted that Sir Henry should deliver it in, upon the Report: Which accordingly he did.

It was disputed, whether it should be generally read.

Sir Chro. Piggott, with a long and earnest Speech, gave Warning, in the Proceeding of this grave and great Matter ; the greatest that ever was sithence the Conquest: - Spoke sharply.

These Remembrances, being taken without Warrant from the House, were ordered to be returned to Sir Henry Mountague again, and to be kept by him, and not remain in the House; because it was conceived by many, that, at the former Conferences, they were not agreed upon by both Houses.

Resolved, That Mr. Recorder should take into his Hands the Paper, and keep it for his own Remembrance, and not be an Order in the House.

Ditto.

Hostile Laws, 5 R. II.

This a Report of that done before Christenmas.

Mr. Attorney had a very great Cold, and so would have excused himself; but the House would have it from him.

Mr. Attorney maketh Report himself of the Matter of Hostile Laws.

A Motion. -

Expedient to repeal the whole Law of 5 R. II. -

1. Reason: Without this Law, the King had Power to forbid, and to inflict a Penalty; therefore this Law needless.

2. This Law very captious: Many well-affected in-tangled : The Words, " known and true Merchant." -

The Words, " King's Soldiers." - All not the Kings Soldiers. -

Other Part, touching Treasure, - Very convenient, that Treasure should not go ; but a new Law, that the King might not have Power. -

All other Laws of Hostility to be repealed : 7 R. II. -

Some Exception to that Generality. -

Constitutions of several Towns : To be left to themselves. -

Border Laws : Explained, as it is in the Article. -

The Matter of Commerce. -

1. The Scotts shall continue double Customs, so long as they continue their Privileges.

Union with Scotland.

3. The Scottishmens Privileges. Eight several Privileges, which natural Frenchmen do. - They should not be English, until they would leave to be French.

3. A great Inequality. Our Merchants of England, besides the common Charge, had City, and other, Contributions : The Scottish not resident; at no Charge.

2. Inequality : Merchants, at a Place certain, bring to Esteem all our Commodities : the Scotts retail in all Parts, therefore disesteem our Commodities.

4. Touching Northern Cloth. Advancing the Customs will remedy that.

5. Exportation : - If Goods were brought. -

6. What Customs the Scottish Merchants shall pay. - Equality of Customs. -

In respect of our Privileges, if we did associate to our Companies, whether not a great Loss [a].

7. Penalty of Transportation. -

A mutual Exchange.

Navigation. -

Scottishmen carry better cheap, by Reason of the Littleness of the Bottoms. -

Scottish Merchants at Land, Mariners at Sea. - The Laws against Strangers Bottoms.

Mr. Holt: - That Escuage is omitted. - Desireth, that a written Report might be remembered, and set down, of Escuage, as well of the rest.

Answ. by Mr. Martin: - It was proposed by Mr. Attorney, by Commission from the House; only proposed, not to be debated. -

The Judges Opinion was asked.

Mr. Speaker moveth for further Direction.

Sir Rich. Spencer: - Festina lente ; - sed mature facto opus est. -

Our Neighbours have their Eyes upon us. -

This intended Union hath some Good in it, because it passed Censure of so many matchless Committees. -

It could not have passed the Touch of so many Meetings. -

Where there is Equality of Obedience, there must needs be Unity of Affections. -

Moveth, that a Bill may be drawn. -

That we should not look one upon another : Not fit for so grave a Council.

Mr. Fuller: - That we might consider of every Particular.

To dispute it here first: To-morrow to begin, and then to refer it to Committee.

To forbear to resolve, touching Bills, until we hear from the Lords.

To proceed in the Naturalization To-morrow.

Privilege.

The Return of the Writ, for Finch, was read.

Finch appeared, and delivered, how he was arrested; but Knight, that procured him to be arrested, said, he was an Attorney, sworn in the Common Place.

They were withdrawn.

Question : - All Servants; or menial and necessary Servants ?

Sir Mich. Sandys delivered, that he lay in his House, solicited his Causes, received Wages.

Baron Walton's Solicitor, 43o Eliz. Huddleston's Solicitor, in the Queen's Time.

Q. Whether the Serjeant to be acquitted, because he was asked, whether a Servant; denied by Knight.

Knight knew him to be an Attorney of the Common Pleas, and thought he was not Sir Mich. Sandys his Man.

Knight, upon the Question, to be acquitted.

Finch to be delivered out of Prison.

Harrison, the Serjeant to be quit; because he did his Endeavour to know, whether he a Servant to a Burgess of the Parliament.