House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 23 May 1604 (2nd scribe)

Mercurii, 23o die Maii

Rowse's Estate.

THE Bill for the Sale of certain Lands of Sir Tho. Rowse, Knight, for Payment of his Debts: - The first Reading.

Throckmorton's Estate.

The Bill for the Enabling of Thomas Throckmorton Esquire, for the Sale of certain Lands, for Payment of his Debts: - First Reading.

Inns, &c.

The Bill to restrain the inordinate Haunting and Tipling in Inns, Alehouses, and other Victualling-houses: - Second Reading, and committed to the former Committees for Alehouses.

Ditto.

The Bill for Reformation of Abuses in Inns, Taverns, Alehouses, Tipling-houses, and the Haunters and Frequenters of them : - Second Reading, and committed to the same Committees.

Alehouses.

The Bill for Repressing of Alehouses : - Second Reading, and committed to the same Committees; with Addition of these following: Sir Edw. Hext, Mr. Pettus, Mr. Johnson, Sir Edw. Lewknor, Mr. Nath. Bacon, Exceter and Coventrie, Mr. Bond, Mr. Dammett, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Charles Cornwallys, Sir John Bennet, Sir Jo. Savill, Mr. Overberry, Southwark, Sir Geo. Fleetwood: - Tomorrow, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Ecclesiastical Possessions.

Sir H. Beamont.

The Bill against the Diminution of Bishops Possessions, brought in from the Committee; with Report, that the Committee were evenly divided about some Alterations and Additions. Moved, that more Committees might be added; but resolved, that the Bill should be thirdly read, and put to the Question : And ordered to pass, being a Bill of Grace, though there were some Faults in the Bill,

Oats.

Mr. Johnson bringeth in the Bill for the Measuring of Oats in England and Wales, with Amendments, and Proviso. - Ordered, upon the Question, to be ingrossed.

Statutes,

Mr. Fra. Moore bringeth in, from the Committees, the Bill for the Continuance, Repeal, Reviving, Explanation,

and Addition, of Statutes, with several Reasons of Continuance, Repealing, of every Statute, &c. The Bill to be considered of, before it be read.

Purveyors.

Sir Geo. Moore moveth to hear a Relation of the Purveyors.

Mr. Hare reporteth, that Two Questions, in the last Commitment for Purveyors, should be put to the Judgment of the House:

1. Whether the Answer to the Lords shall be, that we know no Necessity of Composition; but desire to know it, thereby to satisfy the King ; which if they mislike to yield unto us, that we intend to be Suitors to the King for it.

2. Whether a Composition of 20,000 l. yearly, shall be offered, for Riddance of all Purveyance whatsoever. - Left to the Consideration of the House.

Mr. Hyde moveth, that the Bill against Purveyors might be read.

Sir Edw. Grevill: - That we made a Promise to acquaint the King, before we proceeded.

Sir Edw. Hext: - The Bill will do no Good, for Want of Execution.

Mr. Hoskins, - against the Composition. - To revive the Laws.

Sir Rob. Wingfield: - To go once again to the King, as a middle Course.

Sir Roland Litton, - for the Composition.

Sir Fr. Hastings: - To give the King Satisfaction, by Attendance.

Sir Fr. Bacon: - That we be not in Tantalus' Case: - Spectat aquas in aquis, et poma fugacia captat. - Since it is to be hoped, that his Majesty will give us Satisfaction in the Matter, let us give him Satisfaction in the Manner.

Mr. Johnson bringeth in a Bill, intituled, An Act to restrain Purveyors, that they exceed not the Limits of their Commissions: Which he desireth may be read; but deferred.

Mr. Speaker, - of the Inconveniences in the Bill here already. - The King may grant a Non obstante, and dispense with it.

The Bill to be forborn ; and, after Consideration, the King to be attended.

The former Committees, for Purveyors, to meet Tomorrow in the Afternoon, for something to satisfy the King; and every particular Country to consider, and inform, what they think fit for themselves.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Rob. Wingfield moveth, that Sir John Bowyer might have Leave, because he was sick. - Conceditur.

Privilege - Mr. Speaker's shewing a Bill to the King.

Mr. Hackwell putteth Mr. Speaker in mind of his Promise, to bring the Bill against the Bishop of London. That former Precedent doth warrant the Shewing of the Bill to the King, when it is commanded. - 35 Eliz. Mr. Morris, Mr. Wentworthe's, Bill; and many other in .. -

Pluralities.

The Bill against Pluralities, being committed to the Committees for Religion, delivered to Sir Francis Bacon. -

Privilege - Mr. Speaker's shewing a Bill to the King.

Mr. Martin excepteth against the Precedents; and, - that it is injurious, that any Speaker should deliver any Bill to the King, without the Privity of the House.

Sir Henry Beamount concurreth.

Sir Maurice Berkley: - No Bill, being preferred to the Speaker, or the House, to be delivered to the King, or to be sent for by the King, without Notice to the House.

Sir Wm. Stroud: - Mr. Speaker not to send his Message by any, but to pray Access himself to the King. - Growing upon Mr. Speaker receiving his Message by some of the Lords, in this Matter of the Bill. - The Prisoners. -

Mr. Yelverton: - We lose our Privilege, if we lose our Bill. -

Non sicut audio, sed sicut video. - Not believe him, as he is Speaker.

Sir Tho. Hobby, Mr. Yelverton, both,- - that the Prisoners, once committed by us, cannot be taken from us, and committed by any other.

Mr. Solicitor: - We may not deal with any Treason, except we have Warrant from the King; because it is personal.

Sir Herbert Crofts: - Jones, the Prisoner, to be sent for hither, and discharged by the House.

Sir Fr. Bacon: - No Possession of a Bill, except it be delivered to the Clerk, to be read.

Mr. Brook : - If the Speaker read the Title of a Bill, in the Chair, a Possession.

Mr. Wyseman : - That it was no Possession.

Sir Wm. Fleetewood: - That a Possession, because a Reading of the Title.

Mr. More: - Not to be delivered away, without the Privity of the House, if the House be possessed.

Mr. Crewe : - This Matter to be buried.

An Order to be entered, That no Bill, whereof the House is clearly possessed, not to be delivered to any, before the House have Notice. - A Copy to any, or to shew it, he may.

House to sit.

The House to sit this Afternoon, for the first Reading of Bills, and Committing of some.

Mercurii, 23o die Maii - Post Meridiem, eodem Die

Ly. Kildare's Letters Patent.

THE Bill for Confirmation of Letters Patents, made to the Right honourable Charles Earl of Nottingham, Lord Admiral of England, Tho. Earl of Suffolk, Lord Chamberlain of the King's Houshold, Sir John Leveson, and Sir John Trevor, Knights, for the Use and Benefit of the Lady Frances Dowager of Kildare, and now Wife of Henry late Lord Cobham, attainted : - First Reading.

Queen's Jointure.

Justice Williams and Sir John Crook bring, from the Lords, the Bill for Confirmation of the Jointure of the most high and mighty Princess Anne, Queen of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland: Which presently received the first Reading.

Deer &c.

The Bill against unlawful Hunting and Taking of Deer and Conies: - First [a] Reading: Mr. Speaker, the Lord Buckhurst, Sir Maurice Berkley, Sir Tho. Mounson, Sir Tho. Ridgeway, Sir Wm. Stroud, Sir Wm. Wray, Serjeant Tanfield, Sir Robert Wingfield, Mr. Ryvers, Sir Rob. Oxenbridge, Mr. Mutton, Sir Rob. Wroth, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Tho. Holcroft, Sir Jo. Harper, Mr. Hyde, Mr. Martin, Mr. Yelverton, Sir Jo. Savill, Mr. Winch, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir H. Beamount: - Saturday, Mr. Speaker's House.

Fens.

Adjourned. - Surrounded Grounds: - To-morrow.

Melcombe Regis Church.

The Bill for the Erecting and Building of a Church in Melcombe Regis, to be the Parish Church of Radipoll, and for making the old Church of Radipoll a Chapel, belonging to the same : - Second Reading, and committed to the former Committees in the old Bill: - To-morrow Morning, in the Committee Chamber.

Hats. &c.

The Bill for the better Execution of former Laws, touching the Making of Hats and Felts, and for avoiding deceivable Workmanship hereafter in the same: - Second Reading, and committed to the former Committees; and these following, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Martin, Sir Jo. Savill, added.

Apparel.

The Bill for Apparel, restraining the excessive Wearing of Cloth of Gold, Cloth of Silver, and gold and silver Lace, and Embroideries : - First Reading.

Sea-fish.

The Bill for the Brood of Sea-fish, adjourned till Friday sevennight