House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 02 March 1607

Pages 345-346

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Lunae, 2o Die Martii, 1606

Iron Mills &c.

L. 1a. B. TOUCHING Iron Mills near the City of London, and for the Preservation of Woods in special Places.

Ecclesiastical Courts.

L. 1a. B. For the more assured Execution of Justice in ecclesiastical Courts and Causes.


L. 1a. B. For Avoiding of Idleness, and for Reforming of Misdemeanors in Victualling-houses.

Union with Scotland.

Sir Francis Bacon proceedeth to the Finishing of a very long Report; and in Conclusion prayeth the House, that at other Times they would use some other, and not oppress him with their Favours.

Motions made, upon this Report: -

Either must we declare them according to the Instrument, or declare them not to be. -

To forbear the Deciding, and the Committee to collect and set down all the Arguments pro et contra, in Writing, and present them to the House. -

To declare, where we doubt, were against our Conscience. - If there be any Rub, and not as clear as the Sun, to say, No. -

That they should stand disabled, until there be a perfect Union of Laws. -

This Point being in Question in E. III. Time, it held Seven Years, before it received a Decision; therefore no Marvel, &c.

Message from the Lords by Sir Rich. Swale and Sir John Tyndall;

That the Lords had a Purpose to send a Message, and did therefore desire the House would be pleased to sit a while the longer.

After a little Pause, this Message was brought by Sir John Crook and Sir Edward Stanhope:

Forasmuch as it is not unknown unto the House, that, in all their Considerations and Consultations about the Union, they have kept an Uniformity with them, and that no One Part considerable hath been drawn unto any Head, but by Conference between the Two Houses; their Lordships conceiving, that no Part is yet decided, but One Branch only in Question, wherein they have delivered no Opinion; they have now thought good to move them to agree of some speedy Meeting about Naturalization in general, that they both, upon Conference, may the better judge of each others Inclination, which they conceive to be the best Foundation, whereupon the whole Work may be builded.

This Message was read by Sir John Crouk, out of a Paper; which being perceived by the House, after the Messengers were retired, they were called in again, and demanded, whether they had Commission to deliver the Paper containing their Message.

The Messengers answering, they had no such Commission ; the House did then desire, they would read it again ; distinctly, that the Clerk might set it down verbatim: . Which they did; and was set down, as before.

The Messengers retired again; and after, being called in the second Time, had this Answer by the House :

That the Matter was of great Consequence ; that they would consider of it, and send Answer, so soon as conveniently they may.