Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Veneris 27 Martii, 1607
THE Bill touching Tanners, Curriers, and other Artificers, occupying the Cutting of Leather, being offered to be read the third time, upon special Motion, by Mr. Martin, from such Artificers as impugn the Passage of the said Bill, it was ordered by the House, that the Counsel on both Parts (if it were so required) should be heard upon Monday next, at Eight a Clock in the Morning; and the third Reading in the mean time be deferrred.
Tillage in Herefordshire.
B. For better Provision of Meadow and Pasture in the Parishes of Marden, alias Mawarden, &c. in the County of Hereford, reported from the Committee by Mr. Pembridge, with Amendments; which being twice read ; the Bill, upon Question, ordered to be ingrossed.
1. A Limitation, as was of the Collection for Hospitals, 39 Eliz. - No Parish under 2d. one with another 6d. and none above 12 d. - The Time, for Two Years, and no longer. This by way of Assessment and Collection, as the other.
Upon this Report, and some further Motions und Dispute, the Committees were appointed to meet again on Monday next, in the Parliament-house; and to them were more added, viz. Mr. Martin, Mr. Lawrence Hyde, Mr. Nicholas Hyde, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Sir Francis Popham, Sir Nicholas Saunders, Sir Thomas Freak.
House to sit.
1. The One, that, whereas, by your Direction, I have entered into Bond unto Warren, with the Penalty of 1,000l. to perform the Order and Award of the Lord Chief Justice of England, who, by his Letter, hath signified, that he hath no Purpose to make any Order therein, remitting the Cause unto your honourable Censures; it may therefore please you, before you proceed unto the Question, to procure him to deliver up unto me the said Obligation, and so to leave me in statu quo prius.
2. The other, that, albeit the grave Committees have forborn to hear my Proofs, because they tend to the Disproof of Two Decrees in Chancery; you may, notwithstanding, be pleased to hear the same delivered by my Counsel at the Bar (being a Favour, as I have heard, never yet denied to any) and then, it you shall find that I have obstinately, without just Cause, disobeyed the said Decrees, and wilfully incurred the strict Imprisonment, and great Fines imposed upon me, by Force whereof my Goods have been taken, and my Inheritance extended, and (which grieveth me more) now possessed by Warren, my clamorous Enemy ; I shall then confess all those Punishments, and as many more as may be imposed upon me, to be too little : if otherwise, I hope you will judge them by much too much : And herein I have no Purpose to tax the reverend Judges of that honourable Court, but such, as by Misreports (as I take it) misled their sincere Proceedings. I most humbly pray you to pardon my Importunity herein: This Cause importeth my Inheritance, my Reputation, and (which is more) the whole Commonwealth, in Point of Precedent; which I humbly leave to your grave Wisdoms and Considerations.
This brought forth some Speech; and Notice was taken, that the Proceeding of the Committee had been taxed ; and Defence made, that for an extraordinary Sore was to be used an extraordinary Remedy. - Intemperans aeger crudelem facit medicum: Yet, praecipitia judicia trahi possant in exemplum.
Copies of Records.
upon the Subject, by the Length, wide and wasteful Writing of Copies in sundry Offices towards the Law; and informeth, for Instance, that Sir Tho. Tasborough paid 60 l. for One Copy; Mr. Serjeant Heale 50 l. for another: The Lord Lisle, in a Suit depending two Years, paid for 6,000 Sheets of Paper.
Union with Scotland.
That whereas their Lordships did send to confer with a Committee of this House, touching the Point of Conveniency of Naturalization, as the same should divide itself, and might concern, as well such as were born before his Majesty's happy coming to the Crown, as such as were born after; with a Power to treat freely and liberally in the said Conference, and without any Purpose to prejudice any Reasons of theirs, that should then be offered, much less with any Conceit, that either their Lordships, or this House, should be concluded by any Opinion there delivered; which Conference, nevertheless, by reason of an unexpected Reservedness, had not that Success and Effect, which was desired: Their Lordships therefore, out of their common Zeal and Desire with this House, that the Business might have a clear and speedy Proceeding and Passage, do wish, that the said Conference might be renewed ; wherein their Lordships hoped, that there should be all Freedom and Liberty used on both Parts, without any Reservation, or insisting upon any thing that might bind either Part; but that their Reasons might be heard and understood, pro et contra, before they descended to the Framing of any Bills.
And because the Feast of Easter was at hand, before which Time it were fit there should be some Recess of this Session; their Lordships did expect and desire to understand the Inclination and Assent of this House.