Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Sabbati, 3o Martii
L. 1. AN Act, at the humble Suit of the Copyhold Tenants of the Manor of Buckland, in the County of Somersett, to enable the Lord Bishop of Bath and Welles, and his Successors, to demise and lease the said Manor, excepting the Demesnes, &c,
The Serjeant at the Bar (not kneeling). - That the Committee Yesterday refused to let him go to his House for his Papers, which, he confessed, he had. That he, thinking he could not have the Papers, without going home to his House, simply let him go thither: There found Sir Wm. St. John, and divers other Ladies; after, Two of this House came in; namely, Mr. Hungerford, and ..... That Sir G. Monperson, being in the Dining-room, made himself sick; cast in the Room: took Tobacco, and Sack; spake to his Wife, to go into her Closet. - Thought it unmannerly to follow them; stayed an Hour, or Two.
Mr. Choke; - Sorry, his first Speech should be, to clear himself from Suspicion of wronging this House. - That their Wives Half Sisters: That, till his Faults discovered, called him Brother: That after, he hated and detested him, and was as forward to censure him. That his Country dearer to him than his Friend. That he
hath visited him sithence his Imprisonment: Purposed to do so Yesterday; as going, met his Coach: His Man told him, he came to the Committee. There was, and pretended sickness, and went away; and hearing, Sir G. Monperson was gone home, went thither. - Confirmeth the Serjeant's Speech, for his Sickness, and going into his Closet. - That Sir Wm. St. John and Mr. Hungerford at Tables, when he came in again.
Mr. Brooke: - Not to have long Speeches prevent,our Endeavours to get Sir G. Monperson again; and to have this Motion now made to the Lords, by the Messenger formerly appointed. - To put this presently in Execution.
Sir Geor. Goring: - That, standing last Night behind Sir G. M. at the Committee, being sick, he moved the Committee: And resolved, they could not give him Leave to go home to his House. That heretofore he would have been glad of his Escape, but now never intended, or desired it.
Sir Wm. Boulstreade: - To have Sir Wm. Pittes, Mr. Mann, and Sir Wm. Herricke, Justices of the Peace for Westmynster, - and Sir Edw. Sackvile to be added: and they to be Committees to consider of what Course fittest for finding out Sir G. Monperson.
Limitation of Actions.
Abuses in Fleete prison.
Mr. Hackwill, accordant: - And to have a Bill framed, to provide for Restitution to the Prisoners, for the Wrongs and Oppressions to them; and to have a Committee, both for that, and all other Prisons in and about London. - Offereth his Pains, to draw a Bill.
Mr. Hackwill, Sir John Jephson, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Mr. Nevill, Sir Francis Popham, Mr. Digges, Sir Guy Palmes, Sir W. Earle, Sir Francis Vane, Sir Tho. Grantham, Mr. Mallet, to be added to the former Committee for Examination of the Abuses of the Warden of the Fleete, and to meet when they please, for that Purpose.
Sir Edw. Coke reporteth from the Lords : - That he said to them, that sent to them with this Message; That they, having duly examined Grievances, had fallen upon some, in origine so dangerous, in Execution so pernicious, as much to the King's Honour to have these punished.
- This Course to the Lords, l. Because warranted by Precedent : 2ly, Because they had a great Power to punish them : 3ly, Had a great Interest, in respect of their noble Families and Posterities. A Conference therefore desired; which if they yielded, then we would prepare the Particulars, so as might least prejudice their Business. - Desired the Ports might be closed, and the House searched.
That the Lord Chancellor answered, that the Lords would be ready to confer on Monday next, Two of the Clock, the Painted Chamber, with their whole House. Whereto Sir Edw. Coke replied, the House had sent Word, they would prepare, &c. And that therefore Monday appointed conditionally, if we could be ready. -
Closing the Ports.
Proceedings against Monperson.
Lord Chief Baron and Mr. Baron Denham bring from the Lords a Message concerning the Stopping of the Ports, and discovering him within the Realm. - That, because it concerneth an Offender, and a Member of this House, they desire a Conference presently in the Painted Chamber: Their Number 40.
Privilege- Stay off Trials.
Sir Geor. Moore reporteth from the Committee for Privileges, that they have found, in the King's Time, 2d, 3d, and 4th Sessions, several Precedents, upon Motions and Orders in the House, and Letters thereupon written to the Justices of Assise, for Stay of Trials for Members of the House. These recorded in the Journal Book. That it belongeth to the Clerk to make them. -
Reporteth further, for Mynheade, that that Town 1o Ehz. incorporated, with Condition for Repair of their Harbour. That 5o Eliz. that Borough, seeing Burgesses, questioned, among others. That they served all
To encourage the Mariners; but not to take the Rights from the Ministers, by Law, and Custom. - Personal Tythes remain, though the Oath of the Defendant, for personal Tythes taken away. This Tythe of Fishermen reserved by the Statute.
Mr. Glanvyle: - That they, by Degrees, have got some Gratuity, and now press it as a Custom. - Tythes not due per legem terrae; but in the Seas; which the King's Due, if any : But this is for Tythe of Fish got out of the Seas, none of the King's. No Custom can be here for Tythe of Fish taken there. -
Committed to all the Privy Council of the House, all Burgesses of Port Towns, all that have spoken, except Dr. Gooch, Mr. Drake, all Knights of maritime Counties, Citizens of London and Yorke, all the Barons of the Cinque Ports, Sir Wm. Strowde, Sir Wm. Heale, Sir Tho. Row, Sir James Perrott, Mr. Mallett. -
Scarcity of Money.
The Necessity of it pressing, The poor Man's Labour, his Inheritance. The Clothiers Looms laid down, by 200 in Town, wherein One Loom maintained 40 Persons. The Want of Money the Cause of it. A pitiful and fearful Case. - Bellum rusticorum in Germany. -
The Farmer not able to pay his Rent: Forfeiteth his Lease, Covenants, Bonds: Hath Corn and Cattle enough, but can get no Money at the low Prices. Fairs and Markets at a stand. The Case of the Gentleman, and Nobleman, Tradesmen of Cities, &c. - How Supply to the King, for Matters abroad, or Distempers at Home?
Sir Dudley Digges: - This already committed to the Committee for Grievances. - To have all, out of all Parts, give in their Reasons of the Cause thereof; and so for the Remedies: Then a Sub-committee.
Thinketh well, it is in Plate; for, if it were in Money, would be transported. - The Shew of the Goldsmiths Shops in Cheapsyde the greatest in Christendom : Now above Twenty Shops set up. - Will, at a Committee, discover the true Causes; and wisheth others will answer him there.
Mr. Glanvyle: - This the principal Thing recommended by his Majesty. - To have this recommended to the Grand Committee, with some Precedency. - Moveth, where many of the House, of the East India Company, may, in his Speech, discover, whether he be of that, or any other of those Companies, now questioned. -
4. The East India Company. Ever sithence that up, no Silver to the Mint. - The surer Argument from the Cause. - Never Leave before to any to carry out any Money. - 100,000 l. per Annum Licence: - Intercept it, before it come hither: which they prevent. - Is none of the East India Company.
7. The Patent of making gold and silver Lace of our Bullion, and prohibiting the bringing any. - Unfit any such Thing should be prohibited, without Act of Parliament ; because, if we prohibit here, others will do beyond Seas, - Will, at the Committee, apply the Remedies.
Sir Jo. Strangwayes sheweth of the 160l. [b] per Annum, coined yearly, from 1 Eliz. to 16 Eliz. - l 00,000l. per Annum by the East India Company; 40,000l. per Annum by the Patentees of gold and silver Lace. -
Sir Edw. Sands: - That much spoken, which he intended. - Addeth, the Consumption of Money here. - Three Heads: 1. Not importing Money: 2. Exportation of it; which not possible to observe, till Trade balanced: 3. Consuming it, when here. - A great Mass of silver Money heretofore yearly brought into England.
That a Policy of all other States, not to suffer any Importation of Commodities, where they have of their own, till theirs sold. - Gascoigne Wine in Rochell: - Spayne. - That 6,000 Quarters of Grain now in One Port, imported aliunde; for which they carry away Money, for the most Part.
the Queen's Time after, and 1 Jac. but their Corporation and Liberties seized about 43o Eliz. for Breach of the said Condition. That 12o Jac. they sent none. Therefore the Opinion of the Committee, that, except they could find Precedents before 5 Eliz. their Election and Return void. That they had Day given them till Tuesday last; now further Time required ; upon which the Committee doubtful.
Letters to Justices.
Resolved, The former Course of writing Letters to the Justices of Assise, according to Precedents ; and, if required, a Warrant, for Inhibition, to the Party: And all these to be recorded in the House.
Proceedings against Monperson.
Sir Edw. Coke, - from the Lords; who have granted all against we can demand. - That they had generally considered of the Means to recover Sir G. Monperson; and particularly, of a Proclamation for apprehending him, and none to harbour him. - .... Admiral, Lord Warden, and Lord Treasurer, - Warrant from the House, to write several Letters to the Ports, Customers, &c. for apprehending him. Lord Admiral had promised to move the King for a Proclamation. -
That the Marquis said, he never loved to lose his Friend, for his Adversity. That he was acquainted with these Projects; was informed, they were good for the King, and Commonwealth. That understanding after, they were grievous, a Gentleman told him, there was no Question, but good. That the Prince wished something might be done in the mean time, before the Proclamation. That Sir G. M. sithence the Parliament, justified, it would require no Flavour from the King ; nothing but Justice. - That he came to Town, with a Purpose to stand by him, if free; and condemn him, if guilty. - Delivereth a Letter, written to him 1o Martii, and came to him Yesterday: Which read. - That he told the Lords, Empson and Dudley but fools to this Projector. That he related to the Lords, that, before their Message, this House had expelled him.
Sir Jo. Heppesley: - That he went Yesterday to the Court, to acquaint some Lords with the Proceedings here. That, being required by the King, he related the same ; who said, he would study how to punish him.