House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 20 March 1621

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Martis, 20o Martii

Ship-carpenters Patent.

ORDERED, That the Ship-carpenters, near London, shall not exact, demand, or receive, any Money, by virtue of their Patent, until their Patent be brought in to the Committee of Grievances, and the same be considered of, and further order be taken therein by the House.

French Company.

Ordered, the French Company shall bring in their Patent to the Committee of Grievances, upon Friday next.


L. 1a. - Ellys.


Sir George Moore offereth a Bill against Erecting of base Cottages in and about London.


L. 2a. - Horseman. -

Sir Geor. Moore: - To give some longer Time, than Six Months, for Payment of the Money. -

Committed to Sir James Perrott, Sir H. Poole, Sir Jo. Dormer, Sir George Moore, Mr. Morgan, Mr. Carvyll, Sir Geor. Chaworth, Mr. Weston, Mr. Smyth, Knights and Burgesses Lincoln, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir A. Ingram: - Thursday, Exchequer Court.

Bill committed.

L. 2a ....

Mr. Bartlett, - against the Trial in the County, where the Justices of Peace dwell: So for the Marches of Wales. -

Committed to Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir A. St. John, Sir Peter Fretchwell, Mr. Weston, Sir Talbott Bowes, Sir Ro. Askew, Sir Myles Sands, Sir Tho. Hinton, Mr. Brooke, Sir Jo. Cutts, Sir Francis Darcy, Mr. Drake, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Chidleighe, Sir Tho. Wyse, Sir Tho. Wentworth, Mr. Taylor, Mr. Wentworth, Mr. Serjeant Towse, Sir H. Poole: - To-morrow Afternoon, Exchequer Court.

Sir F. Michell, &c.

Mr. Speaker moveth for Sir Francis Michell, Dykes. -

But the House refuseth to give any Order in it.

Hackney Tenants.

Mr. Wentworth reporteth the Bill for the Tenants of Stepenheath and Hackney, with small Amendments. - Engrossetur.


Mr. Glanvyle reporteth the Bill against Monopolies. - Great Care, both by the House and the Committee, about it. The Title altered, and Provisoes added.

The Amendments twice read.

Mr. Solicitor : - The Bill weighty. - To re-commit it.

Mr. Towerson; - That a Law, prohibiting Exportation of any Corn above 4l. Price. - A Grant for this to a great Lord. - Take that away, the whole Trade of Transportation of Cloth faileth.

Sir Edw. Sands: - That the Committee never meddled with the King's Power to dispense with any penal Law : but to transfer this regal Power to another, that hath not a regal Mind.

Mr. Whitson: - That so many Calve-skins in this Kingdom, as must be cast away, if not transported.

...... That a Complaint made by the Shoemakers

of Devonshyre, that. they carry away, not only Calve-skins, but Skins of 50s. a Dozen.

The Bill to be re-committed : - To-morrow in the Afternoon, Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Order in Speaking.

Mr. Alford: - That when divers stand up to speak, the House, and not the Speaker, are to determine it.

Sir Geor. Moore: - That the Speaker is to determine it, if he see both, when they arise.

Lord Chancellor Bacon.

Sir Edw. Gyles: - To have some appointed to examine Churchill about a new Complaint against the Lord Chancellor.

Mr. Mallory requireth a Petition of one Wood, against the Lord Chancellor, to be read.

Sir Ro. Phillippes: - That he hath this Petition ; which delivered to the Sub-Committee, and is not yet reported to the grand Committee.

Churchhill to be talked with, not only for this Petition, but also generally for other Things.

A Petition read, by Edw. Willoughby, Mountague, Wood, and others.

Sir Edw. Coke, Sir Edw. Gyles, Sir S. Sands, Sir Edw. Sackvyle, Mr. Alford, Sir Francis Seymor, Sir Ro. Phillippes, Sir D. Digges, Sir Edw. Sands, Mr. Noye, Sir Tho. Row : These to examine Churchill, according to Sir Ro. Phillippes' Motion.

Churchill, at the Bar, charged by Mr. Speaker to speak the Truth, concerning any Corruption, in this, or any other Matter.

Heale's Bill.

Sir W. Heale his Bill, - Thursday Afternoon, Exchequer Chamber.

Welsh Cottons.

Mr. Solicitor reporteth the Bill for Welsh Cottons, with the Amendments: Which Amendments twice read.

Sir Ro. Vernon : - Not to respect Wales so, as to prejudice England. - That these Cloths beneficial to be kept in the Kingdom. The Dyers, Dressers, and Carriers of these Cloths, like to be very prejudicial to many. - Moveth a Re-commitment, whereby Exportation out of Wales may be prevented.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer: - That the Cottons, Freezes, Linings, and Plainings, may not be sent away unwrought. - The French Patent a new Patent; which will be set on foot, when Exportation of these Commodities shall be allowed.

Sir Wm. Strowde: - That the Exportation spoken of at the Committee ; and the Committee satisfied therein.

Sir Walter Earle, accordant.

Sir Rich. Newport: - That he was of the Committee, and yet not satisfied. - Christ-church Hospital, in London, will lose 100 Marks per Annum. - Carriers: Inns: - Thousands of People employed about these Commodities. -

Ordered, The last-named Committee may examine Keeling, or any other they will, in this Business. -

Mr. Griffyth : - That they desire not Transportation.

Mr. Solicitor :- - A middle Way will reconcile all. - To transport, but not till all the Manufacture be past. - Moveth, the Bill to be recommitted. -

Privilege - Examining Members on Oath by Lords.

Mr. Attorney-general and Mr. Dr. Bird bring from the Lords a Message ; that they have considered of the Matters in the last Conference : They desire to proceed with all Care and Expedition : Desire to examine, upon Oath, divers Gentlemen of Quality; particularly Sir Geor. Hastings, and Sir Rich. Yong. That they have no Intention to violate any the Privileges of this House : but desire, these, and any other (though of this House) whose Testimony shall be needful, may, by private Motion to them, without further Message. - This to be done, as private Men, voluntarily. -

That the Letters of the Bishop of Landaph may be sent them; and any other Writing, which may discover the Truth. -

Desire, these Gentlemen may come at Two of the Clock this Afternoon, for this Purpose.

Sir Geor. Hastinges and Sir Rich. Yong offer voluntarily to do this.

Sir George Kinnersley: - To wipe off the Tax of Ingratitude from Sir Geor. H. and Sir Rich. Yong.

Leave for Sir George H. and Sir Rich. Yong, to go, as private Men, and voluntarily of themselves.

And that the Letters and Papers, they send for, shall be sent them.

For the other Members of this House, to be sworn, without further Message; that the House will further advise of.

Welsh Cottons.

For the Bill of Cottons, &c. - Sir Jo. Strangwayes, - for the Ingrossing of the Bill, without Re-commitment.

Mr. Brooke, - for Re-commitment: Which good for the Bill.

This Bill to be re-committed : - Thursday next. Court of Wards.

Privilege - Examining Members on Oath by Lords.

A Message to the Lords, at their next Sitting ; that, if their Lordships shall have Cause, in the Business concerning Lord Chancellor, or Bishop of Landaph, to examine any Member of this House upon Oath, House giveth them Leave, as private Men, and as voluntarily, to go unto them, upon private Notice, and be examined.

Bills of Conformity, &c.

Master of the Wards : - That the King hath taken Notice of the Bills of Conformity; which, he saith, worse than Protections. - How he hath been abused, and his Subjects wronged. - Sendeth Word, he would clear them all presently ; and all Protections, of any Nature ; that the Traffick of the Kingdom may go on; he conceiving this to be a principal Means of the Want of Money, &c. - That the King will, by Proclamation, or otherwise, as this House shall think fittest, provide for the present; and frame a Bill, for preventing the like in future.

Resolved, This to be set down in Writing, by the Master of the Wards; and to deliver it to the Clerk, to be entered.

Resolved, For the present, a Proclamation :

And, for the future, a Bill; which to be drawn by all the Privy Council, Sir Jo. Walter, Mr. Crew, Mr. Noye, Mr. Solicitor, Chancellor Duchy, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir D. Digges, Sir Tho. Wentworth, Sir Tho. Low, Mr. Hackwyll, Sir Edw. Sackvyle, Sir Edw. Sands, Mr. Wentworth, Sir Jo. Bennett, Mr. Alford: - This Afternoon, in the Committee Chamber.

Thanks to be returned to the King, for this Message, by Master of the Wards. -

That the Master of the Wards may intreat the King to enlarge those, which in Prison, for disobeying the Orders about Bills of Conformity.

Lord Chancellor Bacon, &c.

Sir Ro. Phillippes reporteth from the Conference Yesterday; that the Lords accepted it with a great deal of Affection, as sensible of the Wrongs of the Commonwealth. - R. Answer by Lord Treasurer; 1. By Question, whether would not deliver it them in Writing. - Resolved, No : For no Cause; this consisting only of Two or Three Points, clear and plain. Next, for the Letters, and other the Things, which the Lords desired ; would acquaint the House; and doubted not, but it would be yielded. - That they would proceed in this Matter, with Care, Diligence, and Expedition.

He further reporteth from the Committee for Examination of Churchill; in particular, for the Petition, before

read : For the general; Time given to him, to set down in Writing, against To-morrow Morning, the Particulars he knoweth. -

For the particular : Churchill, - That, before October was Twelve-month, an Order for Dismission on both Parts: The Day after, Churchill - Lady Wharton took him in her Coach, carried him to Yorke-house: There she spake with my Lord. Thereupon Churchill ordered to stay the Dismission of Lady Wharton, but to suffer the other to stand. A Decree upon this.

Keeling, examined, confesseth that, near about passing this Decree, - took 100 l. made Keeling write down the Words she should use to my Lord, at her presenting it. - 100 l. delivered in a Purse, of her own working. This Decree made de bene esse. Made in October; but stayed till about June after, even till she paid my Lord Chancellor 200 l. more. - That Shute persuaded Lady Wharton to confer the Land upon my Lord Chancellor: That she would not yield, till had spoken with Keeling. Shute persuaded Keeling; who would not yield without a Power of Revocation. - That, upon this, the Composition of 300 l. followed. -

Keeling let fall Words, that he had left Yorke-house, upon the general Corruption he found there, and the Altering of divers Agreements had been there made. -

Keeling saith, he soliciting a Cause between Sir Jo. Trevor, and Askew ; where Six Injunctions, &c. and, for a final End, Sir Jo. Trevor gave my Lord 100 l. by Sir Rich. Yonge's Hands. - Five Pieces for a Day of Hearing last Michaelmas Term : - Clayton a Monopoly of this. - 40s. for an Hearing; 3l. and 4l. for an Injunction. -

That this Petition hath brought forth a Copy of another Petition.

Sir Rich. Yong: - That, in Christmas Holidays, a Man of Sir Jo. Trevor's brought him a Letter to my Lord, and a Cabinet; which he delivered my Lord openly, and delivered it to my Lord.

Sir Edw. Coke: - Strange to him, that this Money should be thus openly delivered; and that one Gardyner should be present at the Payment of the 200 l.

Sir Ro. Philippes, after these Things, set down by Churchill and Keeling, shall be presented, and heard in this House, Sir Ro. Phillippes shall, at the Lords next Sitting, deliver these Things to the Lords.

Sir Ro. Phillippes to deliver to the Lords, this Afternoon, Three Letters from Landaphe to Edw. Egerton ; Three Copies of Letters from Awbrey to the Lord Chancellor ; a Copy of the Recognizance of 10,000 l. and of a Defeazance; and divers Orders, and One under Seal, De executione ordinis ; to be presented to the Lords; and all other Writings, Sir Ro. Phillippes hath.


The Order for the Cessation for the Payment for Lights, to be suspended, till the Cause be heard: Which to be To-morrow in the Forenoon, by Counsel, in this House.


The Constables for Yorkeshyre to be heard To-morrow.