House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 06 August 1625

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 06 August 1625', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629, (London, 1802) pp. 811-812. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol1/pp811-812 [accessed 20 April 2024]

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Sabbati, 6o Augusti

Mountagew's Book.

Mr. Drake moveth for a Report from the Lord of Canterbury, concerning Mr. Mountagew his Book.

Resolved, Sir D. Digges, and the rest, formerly appointed, shall repair to the Lord of Canterbury, to know, what his Grace hath done; and to make Report thereof to the House, upon Monday Morning next.

Partition.

Bill for Partition, - Monday next. Two Clock, Natural Philosophy Schools. Delivered Mr. Shervyle.

Exporting Wools, &c.

The Bill against Exportation of Wools, &c. - this Afternoon, Two Clock, Committee Chamber.

Oath to Accountants.

L. 2a. An Act to minister at Oath, to make true Accounts of all general and publick Taxes, Rates, and Collections. - Committed to Sir Geor. Moore, Sir Row. St. John, Sir Ro. Phillippes, Sir Tho. Fanshaw, Sir Myles Fleetewood, Sir John Scudamore, Mr. Sherfeild, Mr. Stanley, Sir Edw. Gyles, Mr. John Drake, Mr. Alford: And all, that will come, to have Voice: - Monday, Two Clock, in the Logick Schools.

Plague.

Mr. Solicitor, in respect of the present Danger of Sickness, moveth from the Prisoners of the King's Bench, recommended by the Lord Chief Justice.

Resolved, To leave this to the Discretion of the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench; but the House will give no Order in it.

Larceny.

L. 2a. An Act concerning Petite Larceny, and the Manner of the Punishment of the Offenders therein. -

Mr. Cope:- - To have Southwarke included.

Sir Tho. Fanshaw: - That this Law inflicteth Punishment before Indictmerit. -

Committed to Mr. Glanvyle, Sir Wm. Strode, Sir Al. St. John, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Edw. Herberte, Knights and Burgesses of London and Middlesex, all the Lawyers; and all, that will come, to have Voice, except Sir Jo. Stradling: - Physick Schools, Monday, Two Clock.

Bills to be passed

Bills of Habeas Corpus, and for Relief of Patrons, to be put to Passage upon Monday next. Nine Clock. .

Privilege.

Mr. Caesar moveth for Privilege for a Servant of Mr. Erswicke. - Resolved, - A Warrant from Mr. Speaker. The Contempt respited. - Infection.

Recusants.

Sir Ro. Philippes remembereth the Business of the Pardon. Moveth for a Draught of the Petition by the Sub-committee.

Sir W. Earle: - A Letter written from an Officer of State, viz. Lord Conway; written to Mr. Drake, and Mr. Wallop, Two Justices of the Peace, of Dorsettshyre, about a Gentlewoman, to whom the Oath of Allegiance was tendered.

The Sub-committee, for drawing the Petition about the Pardon, to meet at Two of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Committee Chamber, to prepare and finish the Petition about the Pardon.

The Letter aforesaid read.

Sir Ro. Phillippes: - To joint his with the other, in the Petition.

Sir H. Mildmay: - That we called hither, 1. For Religion: 2. For Supply of his Majesty. That our Coldness in Religion, One of the principal Causes of the grievous Visitation now upon us. - To add to our former Petition to his Majesty, that he will, upon no Instance, give any Connivence to the Papists.

Resolved, The former Committee shall also take Consideration of this Letter.

Supply.

Sir . H. Mildmay: - 1. We not absolutely engaged to maintain a War, but to assist and supply the King in a War. - Moveth, first to know, what Money will serve for the Fleet; then, though not by Subsidy, yet by some other Course (whereof there are Precedents) and which being done in Parliament, is a parliamentary Course, to raise this Supply.

Mr. Coryton: - A Committee, to consider of what fit to be done, both for Supply of the King, and Relief of the Kingdom: Wherein Religion to have the first Place.

Sir Jo. Ellyott: - First to resolve, whether fit to petition the King for a Recess now. - Moveth, a Committee, for a Petition to the King, to sit.

Sir Jo. Cooke moveth, the Commission for the Navy may be examined.

Mr. Strode moveth, a grand Committee presently, to consider of the King's Supply; and that all, that speak, may apply themselves to this, how the Two Subsidies, and Fifteens, payable more than One Year hence, can supply the Navy, to go out within Fourteen Days.

Sir Jo. Stradling, accordant: - And, that this will breed a Jealousy, that we will not give in due Time, without a Gift now.

Sir Nath. Rich: - Not to refuse to give : But first to represent to the King our Wants. - 1. For Religion; to have his Majesty's Answer in full Parliament, and enrolled; which then of the Force of an Act of Parliament. 2. To know the Enemy, against whom our War is to be made. 3. The Necessity of an advised Council, for Government of the great Affairs of the Kingdom. 4. The Necessity of looking into the King's Estate. 5. To have his Majesty's Answer concerning Impositions. - To have a Committee for these. Though this Time not fit for the Decision of all these Points; yet to set down the Heads of them, and then to have the King's Answer in Parliament unto them. This no Capitulating with the King, but an ordinary parliamentary Course; as 22 Ed. III. and that, without which, the Commonwealth can neither supply the King, nor subsist.

Exception to a Member's Words.

Mr. Edward Clarcke using Words, That there had been Speeches here, with invective Bitterness, unseasonable for the Time; there was thereupon a general Acclamation,

" To the Bar." At last he was heard to explain himself; which doing, he gave greater Offence. Whereupon he was ordered to withdraw himself out of the House, till the same might be debated there.

Sir Francis Seymor : - To call him to the Bar, and put him out of the House.

Sir Edw. Gyles: - His Offence great: But yet to punish him moderately.

Sir Geor. More : - To have him acknowledge his Error at the Bar.

Sir Ro. Phillippes: - That he remain with the Serjeant till the next Sitting; and come in, and acknowledge his Error at the Bar.

Ordered, upon the Question, That Mr. Clarcke shall be called in to the Bar, and kneel, whilst Mr. Speaker declareth to him the Pleasure...

Member committed.

Resolved also, upon Question, That Mr. Speaker shall let him know, that the House hath taken just Offence at his Words; and therefore shall stand committed to the Serjeant, during the Pleasure of the House.

He was called in, and kneeling, his Sentence delivered accordingly.

Supply.

Sir Francis Seymor moveth, the whole House, as a Committee, may, upon ..... Morning, debate the great Business.

Sir Ro. Phillippes, accordant: - At Seven Clock; and Mr. Speaker to be present; and Prayers may be first said. - Agreed.