House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 17 April 1628

Pages 884-885

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Jovis, 17 Aprilis


EXCOMMUNICATION: - On Saturday,Two Clock, former Place.

Ld. Gray's, &c. Nat.

L. 1. An Act for the Naturalizing of Andrew Lord Gray, of Fowles, Sir Robert Diell, and George Kirk Esquire.

Great's Petition.

A Petition read, from one Great: Referred to the Committee for Courts of Justice. Mr. Andrews and Mr. White assigned for his Counsel.


L. 1. An Act to disable Clergymen to be Justices of Peace.


L. 2. An Act for the better Suppressing of unlicensed Alehouse-keepers : - Committed to Sir Ed. Coke, Sir Tho. Hoby, Mr. Cage, Mr. Jordan, Mr. Alford, Sir Fra. Seymor, Sir Fra. Barrington, Sir Jo. Hotham, Mr. Goodwin, Sir Edw. Gyles, Mr. Sherfeild, Sir Will. Walter, Alderman Molson, Sir Rob. Philips, Mr. Cope, Sir Tho. Dacres, Sir Tho. Badger: All to have Voices, which will come : - Saturday, Two Clock, Star-chamber.


L. 2. An Act for the Maintenance and Increase of Shipping and Navigation, and for freer Liberty of Fishing, and Fishing Voyages, to be made in and upon the Seas, and Sea-coasts, and Places of Newfound-land, Virginia, New England, and other the Seas, Sea-coasts, and Parts, of America: - Committed to Mr. Treasurer, Sir Ed. Coke, Mr. Spencer, Mr. Glanvyle, Mr. Mathewes, Sir Jo. Strangewaies, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Dud. Digs, Sir Walt. Earle, Sir Rob. Mansill, Mr. Noy, Mr. Cooke, Sir Eub. Theloall, Burgesses of all the Port Towns, Mr. Hackwell, Sir Oli. Luke, Mr. Lister, Mr. Delbridge, Sir Hen. Martin, Mr. Goodwyn : - Monday, Exchequer Chamber, Two Clock.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Rolfe Leave to depart for Five Days.

Call of the House, &c.

Calling of the House to be deferred till Monday ; and then the Recusants to be presented, according to former Order.

Yorke Election.

Mr. Hackwell reporteth from the Commitee of Privileges, for the County of Yorke. - Sir Hen. Bellasis and Sir Tho. Wentworth returned. The Question, whether those Men, that refused to declare their Names, were not disabled to be Electors. Appeared, that they answered to these Three Questions : 1. That they had 40 s. Freehold: 2ly, That they were Resiants within the County the Day of the Date of the Writ: 3ly, That they were not before polled. The Opinion of the Committee, that not necessary to insert the Names of the Freeholders in the Indenture : - Held it inconvenient, to have them set down their Names; because Notice might then be taken of them, to their Prejudice. -

The Opinion of the Committee, that these Two Gentlemen well elected.

Resolved, upon Question, That if an Elector or Freeholder, being, by the Sheriff, upon the Poll, demanded his Name, shall refuse it, he is not disabled to be an Elector.

Resolved, upon a second Question, That Mr. Henry Bellasis and Sir Tho. Wentworth, are well and duly elected Knights of the Shire for the County of Yorke.

Privilege- Aspersion on a Member.

Sir Jo. Elliot reporteth from the Committee, appointed to take Consideration of the Words spoken by the Earl of Suffolke against a Member of this House. - Sir Christo. Nevill says, that, on Saturday last he was at a Committee of the Lords; and the Earl of Suffolke told him, that Mr. Attorney had cleared the Business, and made the Cause clear on the King's Side: And told him, that Mr. Selden had razed a Record, and did deserve to be hanged; and that this House should do well to join with the Lords in a Petition to the King, to hang him : - Said, Mr. Selden went about to divide the King and his People. Upon Expostulation with him the Earl of Suffolke did again justify, that he had razed a Record. Mr. Litleton, examined, said, that he stood not very near my Lord, but heard thus much, that my Lord said, that he would not be in Mr. Selden's Case for 10,000 l. and that he deserved to be hanged. -

For that, which concerns Sir Jo. Strangewaies; the Committee find divers Circumstances, and Reasons, to justify him: 1. The Words given in Testimony by him, those Syllables were spoken to Sir Chr. Nevill. 2. The Earl of Suffolke did call Sir Jo. Strangewaies to him : Sir Geor. Fane and Sir Alex. St. John testify this. 3. Sir Jo. Strangewaies presently, upon this Discourse, turned about to another Lord, and told him those Passages between him and my Lord of Suffolke. 4. Sir Jo. Strangewaies, when first called to testify, did not do it voluntarily, but commanded by the House to do it. 5. Upon Probability, that he would not feign those Words. 6. A Reason taken from the Worth and Integrity of that Gentleman. -

The Opinions of the Committee, that my Lord of Suffolke, notwithstanding his Denial, hath laid a most unjust and scandalous Imputation on the House.

2ly, That they are fully satisfied, that Sir Jo. Strangewaies affirmed nothing but Truth.

3ly, That these Particulars should be presented to the Lords, and he again charged at the Bar ; with a Desire to the Lords, that they would in Justice proceed against him. -

E. of Devon.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Crue and Serjeant Davenport: -

The Lords have sent down a Bill, concerning the Earl of Devonshire. -

Privilege - Aspersion on a Member.

Committee desires that those Members of the House, that were likewise present, should deliver their testify [a].

Upon Question, Sir Geo. Grisley to deliver his Knowlege concerning the Words spoken by my Lord of Suffolke.

Sir Geo. Grisley: - Can say no more, but that he saw Sir Jo. Strangewaies and my Lord talking together of.....

Resolved, upon Question, That the Earl of Suffolke, notwithstanding his Denial, hath laid a most unjust and scandalous Imputation upon Mr. Selden, a Member of this House, employed in the Service of the House, and, therein, upon the whole House of Commons. -


A Message from the Lords, by the Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas and Baron Trevor:

The Lords desire a Conference with a Committee of this whole House, to meet this Afternoon at the former Place, and finish the Conference, that was Yesterday begun.

Answer: This House will give the Lords a Meeting, at the Time and Place, as is desired. -

Privilege - Aspersion on a Member.

Resolved, upon a second Question, That this House, upon due Examination, is fully satisfied, that Sir Jo. Strangewaies, notwithstanding my Lord of Suffolk's Denial, hath affirmed nothing, but what is most certain and true.

Resolved, upon a third Question, That these Particulars, and Additions, reported from the Committee, shall be again presented to the Lords; and the Earl of Suffolke to be newly charged at the Bar; and the Lords to be desired to proceed in Justice against him, and to inflict such Punishment upon him, as so high an Offence against the House of Commons doth deserve.

Sir Jo. Elliot to go presently to the Lords with this Charge.

Message from Lords, for Journal.

A Message from the Lords, by the Lord Chief Justice Richardson and Baron Trevor: -

The Lords signify their great Care for the happy Proceeding and Ending of this Conference. They understand of a Bill in 18 of King James, for Explanation of Magna Charta : Something then delivered by a learned Member of this House. - To have the Clerk of this House bring the Journal of that Parliament ; to be used in this Conference, as Occasion shall serve. - May, 19 [b].

Answer: This House will, in convenient Time, return Answer to the Lords, by Messengers of their own.

Privilege - E. of Suffolke.

Sir Jo. Elliot sent up to the Lords with the Charge against the Earl of Suffolke.

Answer respecting the Journal.

Mr. Secretary Coke sent up to the Lords with this Message : That there was no Resolution of the House in the Case mentioned; and that the Entry of the Clerk, of particular Mens Speeches, was without Warrant at all Times, and in that Parliament, by Order of the House, rejected, and left; and therefore not thought fit to be sent up to their Lordships.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Mayor of Southampton Leave to depart.

Surveying the Journal.

Upon Question, a Committee of Eight to survey the Clerk's Book: -

Sir Dud. Digs, Mr. Alford, Mr. Selden, Mr. Litleton, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Tho. Hoby, Mr. Noy, Mr. Banks: - To meet every Saturday, Two Clock, Committee Chamber, to survey the Clerk's Book; and report to the House, as they shall see Cause ; but to make no Alteration, without Warrant of the House.


A Committee, of all the Lawyers of the House, to meet, and prepare a Bill for the Repeal and Continuance of Statutes. The last Bill to be delivered to Mr. Noy.


Bill of Alnage, - on Saturday,Two Clock, former Place.

Copies of Records.

Mr. Noy, Mr. Selden, Mr. Banks, Mr. Sherland, Mr. Hackwell, Mr. Sherfeild, Mr. Glanvyle, Mr. Whitby, to examine the Copies of the Records with the Originals: - To meet To-morrow, at Two Clock, Inner Temple Hall.


L. 2a. An Act concerning the Hearing of the Word of God preached: - Committed to Mr. Sherland, Mr. Jordan, Sir Wal. Earle, Sir Mi. Fleetwood, Sir Will. Boulstred, Sir Fra. Barrington, Mr. Strode, Sir Pet. Hayman, Sir Rob. Harley, Sir Hen. Martin, Doctor Eden: All, that will come, to have Voice; - To-morrow, Two Clock, Court of Wards.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Jo. Elliot reporteth from the Lords. - The Lords will take it into due Consideration, and will, in due Time, return an Answer, by Messengers of their own.


L. 1. An Act for free Liberty to marry at any Season of the Year.

Report from Lords.

Mr. Secretary reporteth from the Lords. - Lords seem to be satisfied.

Grand Committee.

The grand Committee adjourned till Eight Clock To-morrow Morning.