House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 19 June 1689

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 19 June 1689', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693, (London, 1802) pp. 186-187. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol10/pp186-187 [accessed 19 March 2024]

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Mercurii, 19 die Junii; 1° Willielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Supply Bill; Coffee, Tea, &c.

A Bill for an additional Custom upon Coffee, Tea, and Chocolate, was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time Tomorrow Morning.

Irish Clergy.

A Bill for Relief of the Irish Clergy, was read a Second time.

A Proviso was offered to be made Part of it, for such Clergy to give Bond to resign such Livings as they shall be preferred to in this Kingdom, when they may return with Safety to their Preferments in Ireland; and to exempt them from the First Fruits and Tenths.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Lord Commissioner Maynard, Mr. Fuller, Sir John Doyley, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Sacheverell, Mr. Fenwick, Sir Thomas Clarges, Mr. Foley, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Sir Rob. Cotton, Sir Fran. Russell, Mr. Montague, Sir Gilbert Clerke, Sir John Wynn, Sir Charles Cæsar, Mr. Levison Gower, Sir John Knight, Sir Walt. Young, Mr. Done, Lord Falkland, Lord Digby, Sir John Brownlow, Sir Thomas Darcye, Sir Phil. Skippon, Sir Wm. Pinsent, Mr. Fox, Mr. Buckley, Mr. England, Colonel Birch, Mr. How, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Roberts, Lord Fairfax, Mr. Fawkes, and all Members that are of the Long Robe: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Answer to Address.

Sir Joseph Tredenham acquaints the House, That such Members of the House as are of the Privy Council, and He, had attended his Majesty with the Address for the Relief of the Irish Protestants: And that his Majesty was pleased to answer, That he would employ the Irish Gentlemen in Offices in the Army, as Occasions offered: And, as to the Assistance desired for the rest, That he would furnish it as soon as he was enabled thereunto by this House.

Militia.

A Bill for rendering the Militia more useful was offered, from the Committee appointed to prepare the same.

Ordered, That the same do lie upon the Table.

Papists Benefices.

Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill, sent down from the Lords, intituled, An Act to vest in the Two Universities the Presentations to Benefices belonging to Papists, be read a Second time on Monday Morning next, at Ten of the Clock; and nothing to intervene.

Westminster, &c. Courts of Conscience.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee, to whom the Bill for establishing Courts of Conscience in the City of Westminster, Borough of Southwarke, the Tower Hamlets, and Out Parishes, be made on Tuesday Morning next, at Ten of the Clock; and nothing to intervene.

Proceedings against Johnson.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Darcye, Sir Wm. Pinsent, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Norris, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Bocland, Sir Cha. Raleigh, Mr. Stretford, Sir Trevor Williams, Mr. Hamden, Mr. Kendall, Mr. Herbert, be added to the Committee, appointed to inquire How Mr. Johnson came to be degraded, and by what Authority the same was done.

Constable of DoverCastle.

Mr. Herbert acquaints the House, That he had Directions from the Committee to whom the Address sent down from the Lords, was referred, to move the House, That an humble Address may be made to his Majesty, that he will please to appoint a Constable of Dover Castle: And that the said Committee may have Power to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

Ordered, That the said Committee have Power to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

Conference desired with Lords.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to desire a Conference upon the Subject Matter of the Amendments to the Bill to enable the Lords Commissioners of the Great Seal to execute the Office of Lord Chancellor and Lord Keeper.

Ordered, That Sir Scroope How do go with that Message to the Lords.

Selling Offices.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to inquire in the Abuses in the Selling of Offices; and to prepare a Bill or Bills to prevent Abuses in Selling of Offices, for the future.

And it is referred to Mr. Smith, Sir John Austen, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Mr. Milner, Mr. Leveson Gowre, Lord Digby, Mr. Arnold, Sir Fran. Russell, Colonel Austen, Mr. Foley, Mr. Vincent, Mr. Chetwyn, Sir Wm. Honywood, Sir Gilbert Clerke, Mr. Stockdale, Major Vincent, Mr. Montague, Mr. Parker, Mr. Blake, Mr. Rebow, Mr. Christy, Sir Phil. Skippon, Mr. Wroth, Mr. Hawles, Sir Cha. Raleigh, Sir Tho. Barnadiston, Mr. Onslow, Sir Rob. Nappier, Mr. Grey, Mr. England, Mr. Bocland, Sir John Knatchbull, Major Wildman, Sir Thomas Clarges, Sir Wm. Pinsent, Colonel Birch, Mr. Done, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Sir Robert Cotton, Mr. Lee, Mr. Freke, Sir John Doyley, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Williams, Mr. Millner; and all that come to have Voices: and they are to have Power to send for Persons, Papers, and Records: And they are to meet To-morrow, at Four of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Exchequer Chamber.

Answer to Address.

Sir Henry Capell acquaints the House, That he, with others of the Privy Council, had attended his Majesty with the Address of this House, for issuing a Proclamation for apprehending Sir Adam Blair, and Dr. Grey: And that his Majesty was pleased to say, That he would issue a Proclamation accordingly.

Regulating Elections.

A Bill to regulate Elections of Members to serve in Parliament, was read a Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Phil. Foley, Sir Rob. Cotton, Sir Tho. Clarges, Mr. Sacheverell, Mr. Coningsby, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Major Wildman, Sir John Knatchbull, Sir John Doyley, Sir Fra. Russell, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Niccolls, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir John Cotton, Sir Jonath. Jennings, Mr. Gwyn, Colonel Birch, Mr. Montague, Colonel Austen, Sir John Austen, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Grey, Sir Wm. Poultney, Mr. Done, Mr. Christy, Lord Digby, Mr. Roberts, Sir Rob. Cotton, Mr. Vane, Sir Gilbert Clerke, Sir Wm. Pinsent, Mr. Sandford, Sir Cha. Blois, Mr. Clapham, Sir Pat. Ward, Sir Tho. Barnadiston, Mr. Tho. Foley, Sir Rob. Rich, Sir John Brownlow, Sir Edw. Harley, Sir Wm. Portman, Sir Rob. Rich, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Sir Walter Young, Sir John Key: And all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet To-morrow, at Four of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Duchy Chamber.

Lords agree to Conference.

Sir Scroop How acquaints the House, He having, according to their Order, been up at the Lords to desire a Conference, the Lords do agree to a Conference accordingly, To-morrow, at Twelve of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Message from Lords to continue sitting.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cook and Mr. Methwyn;

Mr. Speaker, We are commanded by the Lords to desire this House to continue sitting, because they have Matters of great Moment to impart to them.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Resolved, That this House will continue sitting, as the Lords do desire.

And the Messengers were callen in; and Mr. Speaker acquainted them therewith.

Intercepted Papers communicated.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Miles Cooke and Mr. Methuen;

Mr. Speaker, We are commanded by the Lords to acquaint this House, That these Papers were sent them by his Majesty; with his Majesty's Order to communicate them to this House, being of great Importance.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Mr. Hamden, One of His Majesty's Privy Council, acquaints the House, That the Mayor of Manchester had sent an Account, how this Packet, with some others, came to their Hands; viz.

There was a Vessel stole out of the Port of Liverpoole: And when it was gone, the Commissioners for the Customs thought it was gone for Ireland: So they gave strict Command, when that Vessel came into Port again, to endeavour to seize it: And they did seize it Five Miles at Sea. That Two of the Persons were got away before they reached them; but it was hoped they may be reached soon enough to seize their Letters: And the Mayor had sent up these Letters to the Secretary, and set their Seals, by an Express by One of their Aldermen, that it might come safe.

That Piggot's, and Two others of the Letters, are known to be King James's Hand; though One of them is written in some Kind of Disguise.

Then the Letters, and other Things, were read; viz.

A Letter to Wm. Piggot, dated June the 8th.

A Letter to James Goodlad, dated June the 8th.

A Letter, in the same Cover, dated June the 8th.

A Letter to Jo. Lane, Merchant in London, dated 10 June 1689; signed C. Powell.

Directions from King James to the intended Convention of Scotland, dated 16 May 1689; Dublin Castle.

A Proclamation of King James the IId, Dublin Castle, dated 1 April 1689; signed Melfort.

A Letter to Mr. Abbott at Lord Moleneaux at Croxhall in Lancashire, dated Dublin, 9 June 1689; signed W.B.

A Proclamation, dated Dublin Castle, 4 May 1689; signed Melfort.

A Letter to Geo. Throckmorton, Esquire, at Chys near Hitchin, Hertfordshire, dated Dublin, 9 June 1689; W.B.

A Letter to James Briggs at Cha. Pigion, Esquire, Counsellor at Law, at Greys Inn, London, not signed nor dated: And

A printed Act of Parliament made in Ireland: And several printed Papers.

Address for securing Papists, &c.

Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, by such Members of this House as are of his Majesty's most honourable Privy Council, That the considerable Papists, or reputed Papists, of this Kingdom, may be forthwith taken into Custody; and the Arms and Horses of all Papists, and reputed Papists, be searched for, and seized.

Protestants concealing them.

Resolved, That whatever Protestants, who shall own, protect, or conceal, any Arms or Horses, belonging to Papists, or reputed Papists, shall be looked upon as Enemies to their Majesties and this Kingdom; and be proceeded against accordingly.

Thanks for communicating Papers.

Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That the humble Thanks of this House be given to his Majesty, by such Members thereof as are of his Majesty's most honourable Privy Council, for his gracious Communicating of divers Letters, and other Papers, which were intercepted coming from Ireland; and this Day sent to and read in this House.

Rights of the Subject and settling the Crown.

Then the Amendments proposed by the Lords, to be made to the Bill for declaring the Rights and Liberties of the Subjects, and settling the Succession of the Crown, were read; and are as followeth; viz.

Line 25, 7 Skin, after "Majesty," add "and, for Default of such Issue, to the Princess Sophia, Princess Electoral Palatine, and Duchess of Brunswick, Luneburgh, and Hanover, as being the next Protestant in the Lineal Succession of the Royal Family, and to the Heirs of her Body."

8 Skin, 5 Line, after "Religion," add "or shall marry a Papist, or one who shall refuse to make, repeat, and subscribe the following Declaration, and receive the Sacrament according to the Usage of the Church of England."

17 Line, after "dead," add the Clause marked A.

25 Line, leave out from "accordingly," to the End of the Bill.

The First of the said Amendments being read a Second time;

And the Question being put, That the House do agree with the Lords in the said Amendment;

It passed in the Negative, Nemine contradicente.

The Second of the said Amendments being read a Second time;

Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Lords, in the said Amendment.

The Third of the said Amendments being read a Second time, relating to Clause A, was read; and is as followeth; viz.

"And be it further Enacted, by the Authority aforesaid, That, in case of Default of Issue of the Bodies of their Majesties, and of the Issue of the Queen, the Princess Anne of Denmark, and the King, the next succeeding King or Queen shall solemnly make, repeat, and subscribe the Declaration following; viz. I A. B. do solemnly and sincerely, in the Presence of God, profess, testify, and declare, That I do believe, that, in the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, there is not any Transubstantiation of the Elements of Bread and Wine into the Body and Blood of Christ, at or after the Consecration thereof, by any Person whatsoever: And that the Invocation or Adoration of the Virgin Mary, or any other Saint, and the Sacrifice of the Mass, as they are now used by the Church of Rome, are superstitious and idolatrous: And I do solemnly, in the Presence of God, profess, testify, and declare, That I do make this Declaration, and every Part thereof, in the plain and ordinary Sense of the Words read unto me, as they are commonly understood by English Protestants, without any Evasion, Equivocation, or mental Reservation whatsoever; and without any Dispensation already granted me for this Purpose by the Pope, or any other Authority or Person whatsoever, or without any Hope of any such Dispensation from any Person or Authority whatsoever, or without thinking, that I am, or can be, acquitted before God or Man, or absolved of this Declaration, or any Part thereof; although the Pope, or any other Person or Persons, or Power whatsoever, should dispense with, or annul the same, or declare that it was null and void from the Beginning: And shall also, if of the Age of Fourteen Years, receive the Sacrament, according to the Usage of the Church of England, before such succeeding King or Queen shall be proclaimed: And, in case such succeeding King or Queen shall happen to be beyond the Seas, the said Declaration shall be tendered to him or her, by Commissioners, sent from the Council in Being at the last Demise of the King or Queen, or Princess Anne of Denmarke, or the Issue of their Bodies: And, upon Rufusal to make, repeat, and subscribe the said Declaration by the succeeding King or Queen, as aforesaid, such King or Queen, so refusing, shall be incapable of being, and shall cease to be, King or Queen, or to have or exercise any Regal Power in England, Ireland, or the Dominions thereunto belonging: And the next Heir, being a Protestant, shall succeed to the Crown, as if such Person, so refusing, were naturally dead: And from and after his or her receiving the Sacrament, and making, repeating, and subscribing the said Declaration, which shall be tendered as aforesaid, shall be proclaimed King or Queen."

And a Debate arising thereupon;

Resolved, That the Debate, touching the Amendments, be adjourned till To-morrow Morning.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine a Clock.