Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 11, 1693-1697. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1803.
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Jovis, 5 die Martii;
AN ingrossed Bill for settling divers Lands and Rentscharge on the Rector of the Church of Maydwell, in the County of Northampton, and his Successors; and, in lieu thereof, for settling other Lands, and discharging Tythes belonging to the said Church; according to several Agreements between the Patron and the said Rector, made upon the Inclosing of Lands in Maydwell; and afterwards, with the Consent of the Ordinary, confirmed by several Decrees in the Court of Chancery; was read the Third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act for settling divers Lands and Rents-charge on the Rector of the Church of Maydwell, in the County of Northampton, and his Successors; and, in lieu thereof, for settling other Lands, and discharging Tythes belonging to the said Church; according to several Agreements between the Patron and the said Rector, made upon the Inclosing of Lands in Maydwell; and afterwards, with Consent of the Ordinary, confirmed by several Decrees in the Court of Chancery.
Ordered, That it be an Instruction to the Committee, to whom the Bill for the more easy obtaining Partitions of Lands in Coparcenary is committed, That they do make the Bill extend to joint Tenants, as well as Tenants in common, if they think fit.
A Petition of the Vicar, Churchwardens, and other considerable Inhabitants, of the Parish of Stepney, in the County of Middlesex, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the said Parish hath been governed by a select Vestry above 100 Years; and hath contributed very much to the Peace of the Inhabitants; which will be endangered, and the Election of Vestrymen end in a Mutiny, if the Methods prescribed in a Bill, now before the House, for Regulating of select Vestries, and preventing Abuses arising thereby, should be established by a Law; And praying, That they may be heard against the said Bill.
Regulating Hackney Coachmen.
A Petition of Nathaniel Tuther, on behalf of himself, and the rest of the Coach-makers inhabiting within the Cities of London and Westminster, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Commissioners for licensing and regulating Hackney Coaches do, by Colour of the late Act of Parliament, in that behalf made, prohibit the Petitioners from letting their Coaches to Gentlemen, for their own private Use, which is a great Part of their Trade; and the Petitioners are advised, such Restriction is not within the Meaning of the said Act: And praying, That the House will explain the said Act, touching the Premises aforesaid.
A Bill for Repeal of an Act made in the 39th Year of the Reign of Queen Elizabeth; and for taking off the Duty of Pontage payable at Wilton Bridge, near Rosse Bridge, in the County of Hereford, was read the First time.
Ordered, That Mr. Hoar, Mr. Westerne, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Mason, Mr. Hillersden, Mr. Beake, Mr. Venables, Sir Robert Smith, be added to the Committee, to whom the ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, for vesting Part of the Estate of Joseph Dawson Esquire in Trustees, for Payment of Debts, is committed.
Eyme's, &c. Nat.
Mr. Elwill reported from the Committee, to whom the ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for naturalizing Solomon Eyme, and others, was committed, That they had made some Amendments to the Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House; and which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were twice read; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as follow; viz.
Bristoll Hospitals, &c.
Hawkers and Pedlars.
A Petition of several French Protestants, residing in and about London, in behalf of themselves, and other French Protestant Families settled in the English Plantations in America, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, being prosecuted for their Religion in their native Countries; and being encouraged to come over into England, by the Declaration of King Charles the IId, in July 1681; and since, by another of his present Majesty's in April 1689; they accordingly did, at great Hazard and Expence, transport themselves into England and America; where they have improved the English Colonies by Trade and great Labour; and especially Carolina and New-York, which are chiefly inhabited by French Protestants,who have employed what little they could save in the Improvement of Trade there, for a Maintenance for their Families: That in the Bill, now before the House, for preventing Frauds, and regulating Abuses, in the Plantation-Trade, there is a Clause, That no Person, other than such as are Natives of England or Ireland, or born in his Majesty's Plantations, shall trade, as a Merchant or Factor, in the Plantations, under a Penalty: That, if such a Clause be inserted, many of the Petitioners must be undone, and their Families starve; or return to England, to subsist upon the publick Charities: And praying, That the House will omit the said Clause in the aforesaid Bill; which will be the Petitioners Ruin if it should pass.
English East India Company.
English and Irish Forfeitures.
Taking off Obligation to coin Guineas.
"And whereas the Importation of Guineas from beyond Sea may prove very prejudicial to this Kingdom, in the present Conjuncture, if not prevented; Be it therefore Enacted, by the Authority aforesaid, That, from and after the said 2d Day of March until the said First Day of January, it shall not be lawful for any Person or Persons to import Guineas, or Half-Guineas, into this Kingdom, on any Pretence whatsoever."
And an Amendment was proposed to be made therein, by adding "upon Forfeiture of all such Guineas, or Half-Guineas, as shall be so imported; one Moiety thereof to his Majesty, and the other to such Person or Persons as shall seize or prosecute for the same; to be recovered by Bill, Plaint, or Information, in any of his Majesty's Courts of Record at Westminster; wherein no Essoin, Protection, Privilege, or Wager of Law, shall be allowed, nor any more than One Imparlance."
Ordered, That Mr. Godolphin do carry the Bill to the Lords, and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the said Amendment, with an Amendment: To which Amendment, they desire their Lordships Concurrence.
Colonel Granvill, according to Order, reported, from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, the Matter, touching the Election for the Borough of Tregony, in the County of Cornwall, as it appeared to the said Committee, and the Resolutions of the Committee thereupon; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as follow; viz.
|For Mr. Roberts||93.|
|For Mr. Mountague||99.|
|For Sir Jos. Tredenham||88.|
|For Mr. Tredenham||60.|
But the Petitioners insisted, That the Mayor ought not to have voted; and that the capital Burgesses, if they were not House-keepers, had no Right to vote: Which was denied by the Counsel for the Sitting Members.
That the Sitting Members had given Exceptions to Nine of them that polled for the Petitioners; which the Petitioners insisted they could justify; and also would justify 17 others, that would have voted for them, and were refused by the Mayor to be polled.
Henry Greby: Who said, That the Town had been a long time dissatisfied with the Election of Strangers: That about 140 went to Sir Joseph Tredenham's House, and desired him to stand for the said Borough; and that the Mayor had promised to do what he could for him: But Mr. Harvey, Mr. Boscawen's Steward, said, His Master expected both Votes; at which the Town being dissatisfied, they desired Mr. Seymour Tredenham to stand:
That it was given out, That such as were Mr. Boscawen's Friends, if they would give a single Vote, they should have 6 d. a Day; and, if a double Vote, 12 d. a Day: And that the Mayor said, Sir Joseph would lose it, unless he did as they did: And that one Melchisedeck Kinsman, who voted for Mr. Roberts and Mr. Mountague, had before promised Sir Joseph; and being asked, Why he went off? he said, He got Two Hogs by it; One of which Hogs, he believes, was worth 30s.:
That the Petitioners, to prove several ill Practices by the Sitting Members, or their Agents, they called, Richard Betty: Who said, That Cann appeard for Mr. Boscawen and Mr. Mountague; and that Cann would have given him 20s. to vote; but he would not take it.
John Knight said, That John Knight senior had promised Sir Joseph Tredenham One Voice; but afterwards Mr. Harvey, Mr. Drinkwater, &c. told him, That if he did not vote for Mr. Boscawen, he must turn out of all Employments:
Pascoe Collins said, Cann offered him 3 l. to vote for Mr. Mountague, and gave him 2s.; and was offered 4 l. by the Mayor the Election-day in the Morning, to go off from Sir Joseph, and vote for Mr. Mountague.
James Turnoe said, That Mr. Harvey requested him to vote for Mr. Boscawen, and his Friends; and told him, A single Vote would not be accepted; and said, He would give him 50 s.; but he did not accept of it: And Pentyre, Agent for Mr. Boscawen, said, He would give him 6 l. and make it worth 10 l. to him; but he voted for the Petitioners.
Robert Tiller said, That he was offered 3 l.; whereof he received 10 s.; and when he had given both his Voices against Sir Joseph, he was to receive the other 50 s.; and told him, If 3 l. was not enough, he should have what he would.
John Collet said, the Mayor told him, If he would be for Mr. Boscawen, he should have a Voice; and that Ripping, and some others, gave him 16 Half-crowns in Hand to have voted for the Sitting Members; but he returned the Money again, and was refused his Voice afterwards:
John Cole: Who said, He was Steward to Mr. Roberts; and says, That, when the Voices were cast up, the Majority fell upon the Sitting Members: That some Queries were made; and those that were made out were allowed, on both Sides; and Sir Joseph, as he thought, seemed satisfied; but did say to Mr. Boscawen, He would see him in another Place.
John Wooldridge said, That James Triscawen did manage for Sir Joseph Tredenham; and he asked him, If Sir Joseph had paid him? To which Triscawen answered, That he had not; and that, if Sir Joseph did not carry it, he questioned whether ever he should be paid.
Tho. Carew: Who said, He was at Sir Joseph Tredenham's House, Half a Year before the Election; and Sir Joseph gave him 10 s.: That he told Sir Joseph, He was in Debt 5 l.; and Sir Joseph said, He should not want that: That a little before the Election he tendered the 10 s. to Sir Jos.; but he would not accept of it: That he did not vote for Sir Joseph; and, after the Election was over, he sent for the 10 s.; And denied that ever he said any thing of receiving 25 l. for a Voice:
Another Witness said, He asked Tho. Gummer, Why he was against his Landlord? and he said, He had 20 s. for his Voice; that Mr. Seyniour Tredenham bid him go to one Ralph for it; which, accordingly, he did, and received it.
Hugh Livy said, Sir Joseph's Servants asked a Voice for his Master; for that his Master's Business was dangerous; and told him, if he would vote for his Master, he should have 5 l.; and that his Master John had a Ship of Timber coming home, and he should have what he would.
Leave of Absence.
A Petition of several Gentlemen, and Land-holders, in the Counties of Somerset and Gloucester, near Bath, was presented to the House, and read: setting forth, That the Bill, depending in the House, for making the River Avon, in the Counties of Wilts, Gloucester, and Somerset, navigable, if it should pass as it now is, will greatly prejudice the Petitioners; and will not be serviceable to the Publick, as is pretended: And praying, That they may be heard, by their Counsel, to offer their Objections against the said Bill.
A Petition of several other Gentlemen, and Landholders, in the Counties of Somerset and Gloucester, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners are informed, there is a Bill now depending in the House, for making the River Avon, through the Counties of Wilts, Gloucester, and Somerset, navigable; which, if it should pass into a Law, as the same now stands, will very much wrong and injure the Petitioners Freeholds; and be no ways serviceable to the Publick, as is falsly pretended: And praying, That they may be heard against the said Bill, before it pass this House.
State of the Nation—African Trade.
The House according to the Order of the Day, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the State of the Nation, in relation to Trade; and particularly the African Trade.
Encouragement of Privateers.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Saturday Morning next, take into Consideration the Amendments, made by the Lords, to the Bill for continuing the Acts for prohibiting all Trade and Commerce with France; and for the Encouragement of Privateers.