Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 11, 1693-1697. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1803.
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Martis, 17 die Martii;
AN ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for Sale of Lands in Horsington, in the County of Somerset, Part of the Estate of Christopher Ridout, an Infant, for Payment of Incumbrances charged thereon; and for preserving the Residue of the said Estate for the Infant; was read the First time.
Mr. Barton to preach on Thanksgiving-Day.
Ordered, That Mr. Barton, Chaplain to this House, do preach before them at St. Margaret's, Westminster, upon the Thanksgiving-Day, appointed by his Majesty's Proclamation, in case the House be then sitting.
An ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for vesting a Moiety of the Manor of Shepton-Mallet, in the County of Somerset; and a divided Moiety of the Manor of Wells in the said County; in Trustees, to be sold, for Payment of a Mortgage charged thereon; and for making a Provision for the Maintenance of Mary the Wife of William Sandes Esquire, and her Children; was read the Third time.
Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Coward do carry the Bill to the Lords, and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the same, with some Amendments: To which Amendments they desire their Lordships Concurrence.
Disposition by Will in Wales.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Brereton, Sir John Bolles, Serjeant Coward, Sir Richard Onslow, Lord Cornbury, Sir John Kay, Serjeant Bond, Sir Robert Cotton, Mr. Moyle, Mr. Heveningham, Sir Cha. Wyndham, Mr. Baldwyn, Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Clark, Mr. Bagnold, Mr. Monstevens, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Row. Gwyn, Mr. Foley, Mr. Gery, Mr. Frewen, Mr. Gardiner, Mr. Nicholas, Sir Wm. Lowther, Mr. Hedger, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Slater, Mr. Phillipps, Sir Wm. Ashurst, Mr. Pocklington, Mr. Phi. Foley, Sir Wm. St. Quintin, Sir Edw. Abney; and all that serve for the Principality of Wales; and all that are of the Long Robe: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Five a Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
An ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable Trustees to sell a Messuage, Garden, and Out-house, in Lincolns-Inn-Fields, late of Sir Robert Sawyer Knight, deceased; and for purchasing other Lands and Tenements, to be settled to the same Uses; was read the Third time.
Ordered, That Sir Cha. Carteret, Doctor Davenant, Mr. Varney, Mr. Elson, Mr. Gray, Mr. Monstevens, Mr. Morgan, Sir Tho. Roberts, Sir Fra. Massam, Mr Bohun, Mr. Lowther, Sir Richard Onslow, Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Tredenham, be added to the Committee, to whom the Consideration of the Petition of John Richardson, and other Inhabitants, of the Town of Kensington, is referred.
Regulating Hackney Coachmen.
Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Manley, Mr. Whitaker, Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Halsey, Sir John Bolles, Mr. Gardner, Mr. Baldwyn, Sir Ra. Dutton, Mr. Henly, Sir Wm. Cooper, Mr. Serjeant Bond, Mr. England, Mr. Bowyer, Mr. Newport, Mr. Monstevens, Mr. Bertie, Mr. Frewen, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Serjeant Coward, Mr. Foley, Sir Rowland Gwyn, Mr. Pierpoint, Sir Wm. Ashurst, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Bagnold, Mr. Colt, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Onslow, Sir Robert Cotton, Mr. Clark: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Five a Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Resolved, That it be an Instruction to the said Committee, That they have Power to receive a Clause, or Clauses, for impowering the Commissioners for licensing Hackney Coaches, to make Hackney Coaches and Horses more useful and convenient; and to regulate the Standing of Coaches in the Streets, and other Inconveniencies occasioned by Hackney Coachmen.
A Petition of the Court of Lord Mayor and Aldermen of the City of London was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners are very sensible the Bill, now depending in the House, for regulating Abuses relating to garbling Spices, Drugs, and other Merchandizes, will be greatly prejudicial to the said City, if it should pass into a Law; and will also impair the Orphans Security: And praying, That they may be heard by Counsel, at the Bar of the House, touching such Matters as they have to offer against the said Bill.
Ordered, That the Bill be committed to Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Gardiner, Sir Sa. Barnardiston, Sir Wm. Cooper, Mr. Manly, Mr. Baldwyn, Mr. Sandys, Mr. Swift, Serjeant Bond, Sir Walter Yonge, Sir John Parsons, Mr. Bagnold, Mr. Frewen, Mr. Papillon, Mr. Halsey, Mr. Mountague, Mr. Bowyer, Mr. England, Mr. Monstevens, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Nicholas, Mr. Colt, Mr. Bertie, Mr. Culliford, Sir Wm. Ashurst, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Fuller, Doctor Oxenden, Mr. Henley, Sir Tho. Dyke, Sir Mar. Wivell, Mr. Dolben, Mr. Clarke, Sir Eliab Harvey, Mr. Foley, Mr. Palmes, Sir John Bucknall, Sir Wm. Lowther, Sir John Fleet, Sir Math. Andrewes, Sir John Bolles, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Row. Gwyn, Mr. Stokes, Serjeant Coward, Mr. Parsons, Mr. Sandford, Mr. Foot Onslow, Mr. Perry, Mr. Guy, Mr. Done, Mr. Gery, Mr. Moore, Mr. Norris, Mr. Ryder, Sir Hen. Colt, Mr. Brotherton, Sir John Kay, Mr. Newport, Mr. Rowney: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Five a Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
A Petition of William Stewart, present Garbler for the City of London, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Bill, now depending in the House, for regulating Abuses relating to garbling Spices, Drugs, and other Merchandizes, if it should pass into a Law, will be a great Prejudice to the Petitioner, who hath a Freehold in the Office of Garbling within the said City, and Liberties thereof: And praying, That he may be heard, by Counsel, to Offer his Objections to such Parts of the said Bill as may prejudice him.
Mr. Pocklington reported from the Committee, to whom the ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for vesting Part of the Estate of Joseph Dawson Esquire in Trustees, for Payment of Debts; and for a Provision for the Maintenance and Marriage of his Daughters; was committed; That they had examined and considered the same; and had directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendments: And he delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.
Supply Bill; Duty on French Goods.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill for granting to his Majesty an additional Duty upon all French Goods and Merchandizes.
Yarmouth Isle of Wight, Election.
Ordered, That the Matter, touching the Election for the Borough of Yarmouth, in the County of Southampton, be heard before the Committee of Privileges and Elections, as soon as they can, in course, notwithstanding any Order to the contrary.
Duchess of Buccleugh's &c. Estate.
The Lords have passed a Bill, intituled, An Act for impowering the Most Noble Ann Duchess of Buccleugh, and the Right honourable James Earl of Dalkeith her Son, of the Kingdom of Scotland, to grant Leases for improving a Piece of Ground in the Parish of St. Martins in the Fields, in the County of Middlesex: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
A Petition of the Merchants of Plymouth, trading to, and interested in, the Plantations of Virginia and Maryland, was presented to the House; relating to the Bill for settling and regulating the Trade to Africa.
Leave of Absence.
Practisers of Law to take Oaths.
Bringing Plate to be coined.
Resolved, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill for Encouraging of Persons to bring Plate into the Mint, to be coined, . . . . . . be taken into further Consideration upon Thursday Morning next.
Mr. Gwyn, according to Order, reported, from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, the Matter, touching the Election for the Town, and County of the Town of Southampton, as it appeared to the said Committee, and the Resolutions of the Committee thereupon; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as follow; viz.
That the Petitioner insisted, That the Right of Election was in the Mayor, Bailiffs, Burgesses Inhabitants, and other Inhabitants, of the said Borough; and that the out-living Burgesses had no Right to vote:
Mr. Isaac Watts: Who said, He was One of the Five employed to take the Poll by Sir Benjamin Newland, and Mr. Smith, and the rest of the Candidates; and allowed by the Mayor: And that the Poll used to be made an End on in One Day:
That, on Friday, the Poll was adjourned between Two and Three a Clock: That, before the Poll was adjourned, the Mayor asked, If there were any more to poll? but none offered themselves, except such as had been before disallowed by the Mayor: That, a little before the Adjournment, he acquainted the Mayor, by a Paper, That Sir Benjamin Newland had lost it by One: That the Mayor said, He found Cause of Adjournment: That Sir Benj. Newland and Mr. Smith both opposed the Adjournment; but the Mayor said, In regard of the Noise, he would adjourn to some more private Place; and then adjourned to Saturday, 10 a Clock; and then adjourned to Monday:
Mr. Macham the Mayor, Doctor Speed, Mr. Culliford, Mr. Crosse: Who said, That the Out-Burgesses had always voted at Elections; and never knew any excepted to, but Colonel Norton; who was excepted to by Sir Ro. Henley; whereupon Colonel Norton said, He did come to vote for Sir Robert Henley; but, because Sir Robert Henley had excepted to him, he would vote against him, and justify it: which accordingly he did; and no Complaint afterwards of it: And that the Out-Burgesses choose Mayor, and other Officers, and have been chose themselves; and particularly Mr. Bromfeild was chosen Mayor:
That, before any Note given by Watts, he spake of the Adjournment; and asked Watts, How he durst give him any such Note, before the Poll was closed? And that One of the Clerks did say, Sir Benjamin Newland had carried it by Two:
That the Reason the Mayor did give for the First Adjournment was, because of the Tumult; by which several, and particularly Webb, was hindered from being polled: and several were abused, particularly Bucket, who polled for the Petitioner and Sir Benjamin; and some were put down with a Quere:
That Austin Talbot had paid to the Poor Four Years; and the Reason he was not on the Poors Book at the Time of the Election, as the Overseer told him, was because they kept that Money to pay for the Books:
But it appeared, That he was Minister of One of the Parishes of Southampton, and had a particular Apartment of the House, where he maintained his Family; and they were only removed by reason of the Small-pox, and returned before the Election:
Mr. Wm. Erle said, That Mr. Hammond had promised to be for Mr. Smith; but Mr. Winter and Mr. Cornelis went to Hammond's Wife, and threatened, if her Husband was for Mr. Smith, to turn him out of his Place.
Robert Adderly said, That Mr. Daniel Beale and Jacob Ward brought him a Letter, as they said, from Mr. Brandon, an Agent at Portsmouth; which he refused, and did not read; but they told him, it contained, That if he would be for Sir Benj. Newland, the Agent would take off all his Biscuit, he being a Baker, and gratify him with a Bill of 100 l. which the said Agent would take out in Bread.
Lisle said, That Mr. Seale first promised to be for Mr. Smith; but afterwards said, He could not do it, because he had been promised to have a Servant got off that was pressed; which he valued at 10 l.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That the Out-living Burgesses, as well as the Burgesses Inhabitants, and other Inhabitants paying Scot and Lot, have a Right to vote for electing Members to serve in Parliament for the Town, and County of the Town, of Southampton.
Civil List, &c.
Sir Thomas Littleton, according to the Order of the Day, reported from the Committee of the whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty, towards the defraying the Expences of the Civil List, for the Year 1696; and for the Relief of the poor French Protestants; the Resolutions of the said Committee: which they had directed him to report to the House; and which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as follow; viz.
Ways and Means.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of Ways and Means for raising the Supply to be granted to his Majesty, for defraying the Expences of the Civil List, for the Year 1696; and for the Relief of the poor French Protestants.
Preventing Export of Wool.
East India Stock and Debts.
Sir Herbert Crofts reported, from the Committee who were appointed to audite and state the Account of the East-India Company, presented to the House, the Matters, as they appeared to the said Committee, relating to the said Account; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was read; and is as followeth; viz.
That 282,572 l. 1s. 8d. lately taken up upon Bottomree, is included in the said Sum; and was paid in at 80 l.; and have Credit for 100 l.; and the Company allow 6 l. per Cent. running Interest, thereupon:
East India Stock and Debts.
It appeared likewise, by Letter from Mr. Gladman, at Gambroone, in Persia, dated 14 December 1694, That it was for Cloth sold there upon the Company's Account; but that this is carried to no Account in any of the Company's Books here in England.
That, as to the Sum of 64,748 l. 2s. 11d. given in for (fn. 1) [good] Debts, at Surrat, and the subordinate Factories;
It appeared to be a Revenue of 1,000 Tomands a Year, paid by the King of Persia's Custom Officer, by Agreement with the English, for their assisting him against the Portugueze; and Mr. Beyer affirmed to have known it paid for 20 Years last past.
It appeared to be by several Impositions raised upon the People, most of them within 6 Years past, granted by a Fermaund from the King of Golkonda, obtained by the Natives, at the Instance of the Company, for the English Nation in general; and that the Revenue does not defray the Charge of the said Fort.
It appeared to arise by Customs, Ground-rents, and Licences of Punch-houses; and had been in Possession of the said Fort Two Years, when the last Account came away in September 1693; which Revenue does not defray the Charge of the said Fort; and that the said Fort cost the Company 13,000 l.
It is demanded by the Company, upon Account of Interest, Insurance, and Advance of Goods, in India; and that they have Advice but of 11 of their 15 Ships being arrived there; but value the 50 per Cent. as though they were all arrived, and vested to be shipped back for England.
It appeared, That Gambroone, and all other the Forts and Factories, that were transferred by the old Company to this Company, were valued to them but at 20,000 l.; and though this Company have acquired some Forts since, yet they have lost more of their old Purchase.
|The Lease of the East-India House||2,000||—||—|
|Warehouse in Back-yard||1,200||—||—|
|Warehouse in St. Hellens||6,000||—||—|
|Exchange Cellar Lease||200||—||—|
That, as to the Sum of 72,179 l. 7s. 11d. for Goods shipped, and to be shipped; appeared, by the Invoice to be the prime Cost of their Goods, most of them now on board the Company's Ships in the River.
|It appeared to be, By Two Pieces of Tanjeebs valued at||350|
|And, By Saltpetre valued at||5,040|
English E. I. Company. India Silks, Callicoes, &c.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday Morning next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for settling and regulating the Trade to the East-Indies; and of the Bill for restraining the Wearing of all wrought Silks, Bengals, and dyed, printed, or stained, Callicoes, imported into the Kingdom of England, and the Plantations belonging thereunto, of the Product and Manufacture of Persia, and the East-Indies.