House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 15 July 1641

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 15 Julii, 1641.



ORDERED, That the Committee for the Breach of Privileges of tertio Car. shall sit this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Duchy-court.


Ordered, That these Words shall be added to the Order of 10° Julii, concerning the Fen-grounds between Bourne and Kyme, &c.: "This to be done without Prejudice to the Right of either Side."

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Breach of Privileges of tertio Car. to consider of the Proceedings in that Business, either by Bill or otherwise; and likewise to hear the Complaints of all Parties concerned concerning their particular Damages.

Army Pay.

It was moved, that Sir Wm. Uvedale might be authorized, from this House, to pay a Month's Pay to the Earl of Craford's Troop.

Queen's Jointure.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Queen's Jointure, to which the Business concerning the Ten Towns in Huntingtonshire is referred, shall sit this Afternoon; to prepare that Business, for a Report to be made thereof to this House, To-morrow Morning.

Committees to stand.

Sir Gilbert Gerrard presents, from the Committee, appointed to that Purpose, a Note of such Committees as that Committee thought fit to stand, and to be proceeded in before the Tenth of August:

1. Committee for Sir George Ratcliffe; concerning Sir George Ratcliffe only.

2. Committee for Recusants convict, where Mr. Whittakers has the Chair.

3. The Committees concerning the Armies, all to stand.

4. The Committee for the Bishop of Bath and Wells; for the Bishop only.

5. The Committee appointed to consider of the Breach of Privileges tertio Car.

6. The Committee for scandalous Ministers; to perfect the Bill and Commission only.

7. The Committee for the Bill of Knighthood-money and Ship-money.

8. The Customers Committee.

9. The Committee for the more free Passage of the Gospel; the Bill to be brought.

10. The Committee for the Upholding the Two last Subsidies.

11. The Committee for Wool and Wool-fells.

12. The Committee for Soap and Leather; for those Businesses only.

13. The Lord Cant' Committee.

14. The Committee of the whole House for the Bill of Bishops.

15. The Committee for Londonderry.

16. The close Committee.

17. Secretary Windebanck's Committee; for Secretary Windebancke and Sir Hen. Spiller only.

18. The Vintners' Committee.

19. The Committee for Transportation of Gold, &c.

20. The Committee for the Bill against Protections.

21. The Committee to consider of the Answer sent from the Lords upon Mr. Smart's Business; unto which Mr. Bint's Case, and the Consideration of the Lords Order concerning the Fen Business, is referred.

22. The Committee of Forty-eight, about the Ten Heads.

23. The Committee for Abolishing of Superstition and Images in Churches.

24. The Committee for Distribution of the Money, given by the Members of the House, to the Officers, &c.

25. The Committee for Consideration of Allowances, to be made for Collecting of Poll-money.

26. The Committee for Raising of Ten thousand Pounds, for defraying the Charge of the Transportation of the Queen Mother.

27. The Committee for Pensions, viz. to consider what Pensions are payable unto Secretary Windebancke, Mr. Jermyn, &c.

28. The Committee for Mr. Chambers' Petition, and for the other Matters referred to that Committee.

29. The Committee for the Queen's Jointure.

30. The Committee for repealing a Branch of a Statute of 3° Jacobi, concerning Popish Recusants.

31. The Committee for Hoole in Lanc', and St. Andrew's: to stand only as to them.

32. The Committee for Mr. Coningsbye's Bill; and that Bill to be reported.

That no other Committees may be renewed or revived upon any Motion.

The Committee for a Bill concerning Lord Lieutenants and Deputy Lieutenants.

That the Committee for Printing, where Sir Edward Deering has the Chair, may sit till Saturday next, to prepare a Report concerning the Business committed.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Marches of Wales shall sit on Monday next in the Afternoon.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Committees, now reported, shall be only agitated, and no more, before the Tenth of August, unless it shall be otherwise ordered by the House after Nine of Clock.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning Wool, and the Merchant Adventurers, shall sit this Afternoon.

Ordered, That all the Chairmen, who have Reports in their Hands, shall bring them unto the Committee appointed to consider what Businesses are fittest to be treated of before the Recess, To-morrow at Seven of Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards; that they may consider what Reports are of most publick Concernment, and fittest to be made before the Tenth of August next, and present them to the House.

Regulating Arms, &c.

Mr. Treasurer, Sir John Hotham, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Capell, Lord Fairfax, Sir John Holland, Mr. Hollis, * Crane, Mr. Martin, Lord Falkland, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Sir Sam. Rolle, * Owfeild, Mr. H. Bellassis, Sir Hen. Anderson, Mr. Selden, * North, Mr. Cage, * Middleton, * Mountford, * Lewis, Sir John Strangewayes, Sir Rich. Buller, * Browne, *Sir Guy Palmes, Sir Arthur Haselrigge, * Kirby, Mr. Dutton, Sir John Francklyn, * Rodney, * Stoell, Mr. Moore, Sir Fra. Popham, Mr. Wingate, Sir Walter Erle, Colonel Goringe, * Merricke;

This Committee is to prepare Heads for a Bill for regulating the Arms of the Kingdom, and the Musters, and ordering the Trained Bands and Ammunition; and to present them to the House, for a Bill to be drawn upon: And are to meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber.

Contested Elections.

The Reporter likewise presented,

These Cases to be reported from the Committee for Privileges.

1. The Case of Newport Borough in Com' Cornub.

2. The Case of Bedford, inter Sir Samuel Luke, &c.

3. The Case of Gatton in Surr'.

4. The Case of Tewksbury.

King's Revenue.

Ordered, That on Tuesday Morning next, at Eight of Clock, the House shall be resolved into a Committee to consider of the King's Revenue: And Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind of this Order; and to interrupt all other Business at that time.

Newport Parish.

Ordered, That the Committee for Newport Parish shall sit To-morrow post meridiem, in the usual Place.

Abolishing Episcopacy.

The Order of the Day was read: And accordingly the House was resolved into a Grand Committee:

And Mr. Hide being called to the Chair, the Committee proceeded with the Bill concerning Episcopacy.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Queen's Journey.

A Message from the Lords, by J. Heath and J. Mallett;

That the Lords had sent them with this Message; that they had sent some of the Lords to understand the King's Pleasure about the Queen's Journey: They returned this Answer from his Majesty; that His Pleasure is, this Day at Four of Clock, to give Access to both Houses, in the Banqueting-house at Whitehall.

The Lords have appointed, that the select Committee of that House may, with a select Committee of this House, agree of the Manner of Proceeding: And to that Purpose, that this House would nominate a proportionable Number to their Committee (being Six in Number); and to meet presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that this House doth take notice of his Majesty's Pleasure; and they will give their Lordships a Meeting, by a select Committee, as is desired.

The Committee Yesterday appointed, to prepare Heads for a Conference to be desired with the Lords, concerning the Queen's Journey, is now appointed to meet with the select Committee of the Lords.

Abolishing Episcopacy.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Hide was called to the Chair;

And the Committee again proceeded with the Bill concerning Episcopacy.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Subsidies by the Clergy.

Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Finch brought from the Lords, a Bill for Confirmation of the Subsidies granted by the Clergy, which has passed their House.

Message to Lords.

Ordered, That the Message, Yesterday appointed to be sent up to the Lords by the Lord Compton, concerning a Message from their Lordships, touching the Northern Parts, shall be sent up To-morrow Morning.

Abolishing Episcopacy.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

And Mr. Hide was again called to the Chair:

And the Committee again proceeded with the Bill of Episcopacy.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Report made.

Mr. Pym reports from the select Committee * * * *


Ordered, That the Committee for Forests do meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-court, to receive, and see the Opening of, a Commission returned, concerning the Business referred to that Committee.

Address respecting the Queen's Journey.

Your Majesty's most loyal Subjects, the Lords and Commons, taking notice of an Intention of the Queen's Majesty to pass beyond the Seas, whereby the Kingdom will be deprived of the Comfort of Her Majesty's Presence, have thought good to express their humble Duties and Affections to your Majesty, and to the Royal Person of the Queen, in some Considerations, which they do now present unto You, as they conceive very important for the Good of this Kingdom, and the Safety and Contentment of Her Majesty, whose Honour and Happiness shall always have a chief Place in their Estimation and Desires: Which Considerations are these following:

1. There is great Cause to doubt, lest the Papists have some Design upon Her Majesty's Journey; because the House have been informed, that divers of them have sold off their Lands to a good Value, and used other means to get ready Money.

2. It is observed, some of them have been very diligent, gathering great Quantities of Gold.

3. It is informed, that more than an ordinary Number of Papists are gone beyond Sea already; and those, of the better Sort.

The great Number of English Fugitives, now beyond the Seas, who by their late Designs and Practices, are known to be full of Malice to the State; and will, no doubt, seek all Opportunities of Access to Her Majesty; and, as much as they can, labour to infuse into her such evil Counsels, as may trouble the Peace of the Kingdom; whereof, at this Time, there is more Danger, because the Affairs of the Kingdom are not yet fully settled; and upon Disbanding of the Army, all Parts are like to abound with Soldiers, and such others, as will be apt to be provoked to Tumults and Seditions, especially in the Time of the King's Absence in Scotland.

That the House of Commons have received Information of great Quantities of Treasure, in Jewels, Plate, and ready Money, packed up, to be conveyed away with the Queen, not only in such a Proportion as the present Occasions, with due respects to Her Majesty's Honour, may seem to require; but a far greater Quantity; and that divers Papists, and others, under the Pretence of Her Majesty's Goods, are like to convey great Sums of Money, and other Treasure, beyond the Seas; which will not only impoverish the State, but may be employed to the Fomenting some mischievous Attempts, to the Trouble of the publick Peace.

That it will be a great Dishonour to the State, if Her Majesty should not be attended and furnished suitably to Her Quality; so it will be a very heavy Burden, in this Time of great Necessity and Occasions of other publick Charges, if She shall be provided in so Royal a Manner, as shall be fit for Her Majesty, and the Honour of the King and Kingdom.

That, because we understand by Sir Theodore Mayerne, that the chief Cause of Her Majesty's Sickness and Distempers proceed from some Discontent of Her Mind, the House of Commons have thought good to declare; that, if any thing, within the Power of Parliament, may give Her Majesty Contentment, they are so tender of Her Health, both in due Respect to his most Excellent Majesty and Herself, that they will be ready to further Her Satisfaction in all Things, so far as may stand with that publick.... to which they are obliged.

That the Commons conceive it will be some Dishonour to this Nation, if Her Majesty should, at this unseasonable Time, go out of the Kingdom, upon any Grief or Discontent received here: And therefore we shall labour, by all good Means, to take away and prevent all just Occasions of Her Majesty's Trouble, in such manner, as may further Her Content, and therein Her Health: Which will be a very great Comfort and Joy to ourselves, and the rest of His Majesty's loving Subjects.

All which they humbly commend to your Majesty's Princely Wisdom; beseeching your Majesty, that, by Your Allowance, they may represent their humble Desires at such Time, and with such Number of both Houses, as Her Majesty shall please to appoint.