House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 14 August 1641

Pages 256-257

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 14 Aug.


East Bourne Parish.

WHEREAS it is desired by the humble Petition of the Impropriate Parson of East Bourne in the County of Sussex, and by the Inhabitants, Owners, and Farmers of the said Parish, that a profane Custom, there anciently used in the time of Divine Service, may by Act of Parliament be taken away; and, instead thereof, Twenty Pounds per Annum may for ever be settled on the Poor of the said Parish; the which Act cannot as yet be considered of, in respect of the very many and great Affairs of the Kingdom now in hand: It is therefore this Day Ordered, by the House of Commons, upon the Petition of all Parties concerned therein, and the Consent, as well of the Parson Impropriate, as the Inhabitants, expressed therein, that a Bill be brought in with all convenient Speed: And that in the mean time, upon the same consent, this House holds it fit, that the said profane Custom be immediately taken away; and that the Twenty Pounds per Annum, according as 'tis agreed, be paid by the impropriate Parson for the Time being, to the Use of the Poor of the said Parish, as is humbly desired by the said Petitioners, who are concerned therein.

Proceedings concerning Perkins.

Ordered, That Rich. Perkins shall have the like Benefit of the Orders of this House, upon his Petition, as Sir Fred. Hamilton in the Case of Sir Jo. Vaughan; both their Complaints being of One Nature: And it is farther Ordered, That a Stay be made of all Proceedings upon the Bond of Six thousand Pounds, mentioned in Mr. Perkins' Petition, till this House give farther Order.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Wm. Dalston has Leave to go into the Country.

Privilege-Person sent for.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Tho. Brothers, the Curate of the Parish of St. Anne, near Aldersgate, shall be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, to answer Misdemeanors and scandalous Words spoken by him against the Honour of this House; expressed in a Petition, preferred by divers of the Parishioners of the said Parish; and this Day read; and avowed by them in every Particular.

Proceedings against Smyth.

Ordered, That Mr. Whitaker shall go to my Lord Chief Justice of the King's-bench, and acquaint him with these Words spoken by Smyth a Parson; and desire him to do therein according as to Law appertains.

Comm/?/ to Scotland.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Two Members of this House only shall be sent as Commissioners into Scotland with the Earl of Bedford.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Hampden shall be One of the Commissioners, that this House shall send into Scotland.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Philip Stapleton shall be the other Commissioner, that shall be sent from this House into Scotland.

Popham's Estate.

Resolved, upon the Question, That a Stay shall be made of the Cutting down of any Woods, or Timber, or Committing of Waste, in any the Lands mentioned in a Bill preferred to this House by Sir F. Popham Knight; which were the late Lands of Sir Bartholomew Michell Knight; in the County of Somersett.

Commrs to Scotland.

Lord Falkland, * Selden, * Hollis, * Colpeper, * Lewis, * Rolle, * Sutton, * Erle, * Pierrepoint, Mr. Pym;

This Committee is to draw up such Heads as they shall think fit, for Instructions to the Gentlemen appointed by this House to be sent into Scotland, upon the general Head of taking care to see the Treaty performed there: And are to present them to the Consideration of this House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards.

Mr. Hollis reports the Conference with the Lords:

Raising Soldiers for French King, &c.

1. That the French Ambassador did make a Request for Raising of Men, Horse, and Foot, for the French King: Which Request was presented in Writing, in French, and a Transcript thereof in Writing, in English: Which was read.

That the Lord Privy Seal told us of a Business of another Nature; that the Lords * * * *

Transporting Men from Ireland to Spain.

Mr. Martin is to go up to the Lords, to desire a free Conference concerning the Spanish Ambassador's Desire of Transporting of Men out of Ireland into Spaine, so soon as it will stand with their Lordships Conveniency. -

Declaration against Earl of Bridgewater, &c.

The Commons Declaration, upon the Complaint of Sir John Corbett Baronet, against John Earl of Bridgewater, Wm. Laud Archbishop of Cant' &c. was read; and, by Resolution, assented unto; and ordered to be delivered at a Conference by Sir Tho. Widdrington: And Sir Alexander Denton is to go up with a Message to desire this Conference. -


Sir Jo. Colpeper, * Erle, * Crue, * Hotham, * Barrington, * Selden, * Strode, * Holland, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Linall's Case.

Sir Tho. Widdrington reports the Case of Edmund Linall, Rector of Helin in the County of Lincolne, .. was deprived, by Sentence of the High Commission Court, expressing no Crime nor Reason in particular.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Deprivation of Edmund Linall, by Sentence of the High Commission, is illegal and void.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Edmund Lynall, so deprived as aforesaid, ought to be restored to his Living.


Mr. Martin brings Answer, that the Lords will give a Meeting presently, as is desired.

Spanish Ambassador.

Sir Jo. Colpeper, That they are of Opinion to deliver no Opinion of the Merits of the Cause; but only to let their Lordships know, that they have searched the Journals of this House; and can find nothing that should give Occasion to the Spanish Ambassador to ground any notorious Consent upon the Transporting of Men: And to know how far their Lordships are engaged in any Consent.

Soap and Leather.

Ordered, That the Reports concerning Soap and Leather be made on Tuesday Morning next.

Defence of the Kingdom.

This Committee is to prepare Heads for a Conference to be desired with the Lords, concerning the Putting the Kingdom in a Posture of Defence: And, at the Conference, a special Consideration of the Tower in the Absence of the Lieutenant, who is now with the King, is to be recommended unto the Lords; and to desire that the Constable may reside there; and to consider what proportionable Number of Men is fit to put in for the Defence of that Place; and that a Care be had, that the Hamlet Men do give their Attendance there, as they are bound; and that a Consideration be had of the State of Dover Castle, of the Isles of Jersy, Isle of Wight, Portsmouth, and of the other Forts of the Kingdom; and to take into Consideration what Power will be fit to be placed, and in what Persons, for Commanding of the Trained Bands and Ammunition of the Kingdom; and a Desire, that the Arms, that have been taken from the Trained Bands, in the several Counties within these Three Years, may be restored unto them again: And to take Consideration of any thing else that may conduce to the Defence of the Kingdom:

* Pym, * Barrington, * Rigby, * Erle, Colonel Goring, Sir Jo. Merrick, Lord Falkland, * Strode, Sir Jo. Colpeper, * Stapleton, * Aiscoug, * Holland, * Arth. Goodwin, * Tho. Parker, Sir H. Hayward, Mr. Morley, Sir Edw. Partridge, Mr. Stapley, Sir Wm. Armyn, Sir Jo. Price, Sir H. Vane, Sir Christ. Wray, Sir T. Bowyer.

This Committee is likewise to take into Consideration the present Wants and Defects of the Navy: And the Arrears due to the Town of Portesmouth, are referred to the Consideration of this Committee: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the ExchequerChamber: And have Power to send for Parties, &c.

Portsmouth Garison.

Ordered, That so soon as it shall appear, that Monies are come in sufficiently for the Disbanding of the Armies, that, out of the next Monies, the Lord Mayor of London, and the rest of the Commissioners, shall pay into the Hands of Colonel Goring Three thousand Pounds, to be employed to relieve the great Necessities and Defects of the Garison of Portsmouth.


That the Committees for the Remonstrances shall meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock: And bring them in with all convenient Speed.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Hotham is appointed to go up to the Lords with this Message;

To acquaint their Lordships, what Order this House hath taken, that the Members of this House should speedily repair hither, in respect of the great Occasions for the Disbanding of the Armies, and securing the Peace and Safety of the Kingdom; and to desire that their Lordships would be pleased to continue such a Number of their Members together, as is suitable to the Consideration and Dispatch of the great Affairs now in hand.

Mr. Hotham brings Answer, that the Lords will take Care, that a convenient Number of their Members together, till the Armies be disbanded, and the necessary Affairs of the Kingdom be settled.

Transporting Irish Soldiers for Spain.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr. Page;

The Lords have appointed to give notice to this House, that, in pursuance of the last Conference, concerning Demands of the Spanish Ambassador for the Transporting of the Irish Soldiers, they had made * * * *

Persons sent for.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Rowland Wilson, Jo. Slany, Martyn Broadgate, Richard Lant, Spanish Merchants, Michael Gardiner, and Geo. Shaw, Vintners, be sent for, as Delinquents, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House: And the Serjeant is not to take them into his Custody till Monday Morning.

Ordered, That Mr. Glyn do prepare the Transmission against these Parties.

Privilege - Serving Process on Member.

Mr. Hood was called in: And, kneeling upon his Knees, Mr. Speaker told him of his Offence, in serving a Member of this House contemptuously with a Process, notwithstanding he knew him to be a Member of this House.

He acknowledged his Offence and his great Sorrow for it: And thereupon Mr. Speaker declared, that the House remitted his Offence; and ordered that he should be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint.

Commissions for the Peace, &c.

Mr. Bodvile, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Whistler, Mr. Salisbury, Mr. Thelwall, Sir Jo. Price, Mr. Perd;

This Committee is to make Search in the Records, where the Commission for Peace, and the Commission for Poll-money, are entered; and to certify this House, what Gentlemen for the County of Montgomerie are put out of the Commission of Peace; and who put in, and who left out of the Commission for Poll-money; and who are put into either Commission, and by whose Means: And have Power to send for Persons and Records.

Inlisting Soldiers for Spain and France.

Ordered, That the Debate, concerning the Spanish Ambassador and French Ambassadors having Soldiers for their Masters Service, be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning next.