House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 19 August 1641

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 19 Aug. 1641.


Defaulters at Call of the House.

MR. Tho. Earle is excused by this House for his Absence, for the Reasons offered to this House by Sir Walter Erle.

Mr. Lisle is excused, by reason of his being in the North, to attend the Army.

Mr. Standish is excused, by reason his Daughter died Yesterday of the Plague.

Moved for Sir Edw. Mountfort to be excused.

Mr. Wm. Smith made his Appearance this Day, being Yesterday in Town, when the House was called; which the House excuseth.

Killigrew's &c. Petition.

Petition subscribed by Sir Wm. Killigrew, &c. & al. read.

Miles Stone and Antho. *, being called in to the Bar, gave Information, that, upon the 12 and 13th of this Month, the Inhabitants of Donnington came with Carts, and carried away the Petitioners Corn in a violent Manner; which Corn was ready cut down by the Petitioners: There was some Forty Cart-load they carried away: And One that stood in Defence of his Corn, was carried away by the Constable to a Justice of Peace; and said, he was to go to Prison for want of Bail.

And Antho. * said further, That the Wife of Tho. Browne said, she did not care for the Order of Parliament, for that it was but a Copy: - We sent to the Sheriff for Assistance:- * Shelton, Jo. Shephard, Ro. Cooke, Chr. Baker, Peter Gibson, Jo. Trigg, Wm. Clarke, and Rob. Burbadge, and others, were the Persons, that came into the Field, and carried away the Corn.

Information concerning Arms.

Mr. Sewer, being called in to the Bar, did inform this House, that he did see, on Monday was Sevennight, a great many of Arms in the Marquis of Winchester's House at Basingstoke, a Recusant; and that the Keeper of them told him, there were Arms for Fourteen or Fifteen Hundred Men.

Person sent for.

Ordered, That Mr. * Welsh, an Irish Gentleman, shall be forthwith sent for, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, to give his Attendance on this House: And, if he refuse forthwith to come with the Serjeant, then the Serjeant shall have Power to bring him in safe Custody.

Commrs to Scotland.

The Petition from both Houses to his Majesty, together with the Commission and Instructions were read in the ingrossed Copies: And

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth assent, that they should be sent unto his Majesty.

Ordered, That Mr. Russell shall go to the Lords with this Petition, Commission, and Instructions: And acquaint the Lords, that this House doth assent unto them.

Persons to attend.

Ordered, That Sir Arthur Haslerigge, Mr. Tate, and Mr. Jones, be required forthwith to attend the House: And the Serjeant is instantly to repair to their Lodgings or elsewhere, to give them Notice of this Order.

Disbanding the Army.

Sir Jo. Hotham reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the instant Disbanding of the Horse in his Majesty's Army:

"I am commanded to report the Narrative Part, how the Business hath stood, from time to time, about the Disbanding of the Horse and Foot."

22° Julii, It was Ordered, That Eight Troops shall be disbanded; and, upon Conference with the Lords, we came to no Issue about it."

"5 Aug. Voted, That the Horse should be forthwith disbanded: To which the Lords did condescend; and, 6° Aug. did join with us in a Petition to his Majesty, for the speedy Disbanding of the Horse: And 7° Aug. the King declared his Consent for the Disbanding of the Horse: Whereupon it was Ordered, a Letter should be writ to the Lord General, to hasten him in the Disbanding of the Horse: And accordingly it doth appear, by my Lord General's Letter, that he received the Orders of both Houses, together with his Majesty's Consent for disbanding the Horse on MondayAug. 1641": And

Ordered, That the Report now made, shall be the Substance of a Conference with the Lords: And that the Lords be desired, at that Conference, that a strict Order be made, by both Houses, that the Horse of the King's Army be totally and speedily disbanded, before any of the Foot be disbanded.

Lord Gray to go up to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Disbanding of the King's Army.

Sir Jo. Hotham, Sir Jo. Colpeper, Mr. Bellassis, Mr. Hollis, appointed Managers of this Conference.

Commrs to Scotland.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

That the Lords had considered and perused the Petition, Commission, and Instructions, that they received from this House; and have unanimously consented thereunto; and sent them back to this House, that this House may send them away.

This Order following was presented by Mr. Pym; read, and afterwards sent unto the Lords.

Ordered, by both Houses, That Antho. Nicholls, a Member of the House of Commons, shall forthwith repair unto his Majesty, to present unto his Majesty their humble Petition, concerning some Commissioners to be sent into Scotland, and a Draught of the Commission, together with the Instructions thereunto annexed.

Disbanding the Army.

Ordered, That Mr. Arthur Goodwyn, Mr. Hotham, and Sir Hen. Anderson, shall be the Persons employed, by this House, to go into the North, about the Disbanding of the King's Army.

Commrs to Scotland.

CHARLES, by the Grace of God, of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith &c.: To our Right Trusty and Right Well-beloved Cousin, William Earl of Bedford; and to Our Trusty and Right Well-beloved Edward Lord Howard; and also to Our Trusty and Well-beloved Nathaniel Fyenes Esquire, Sir Wm. Armyn Baronet, Sir Philip Stapleton, Knight, and John Hampden Esquire, Greeting: Know ye, that We, reposing special Trust and Confidence in your approved Fidelities, Wisdoms, and Discretions, have nominated and appointed you to be Our Commissioners; and, by these Presents, do give unto you, or any Three or more of you, full Power and Authority to go into Our Kingdom of Scotland; and there to treat, confer, and conclude, with such of Our Commissioners, as shall be named and authorized in Our Parliament of Scotland, according to the Instructions hereunto annexed: And you, or any Three or more of you, are likewise to observe and pursue all such further Instructions, as you, or any Three or more of you, as aforesaid, shall, from time to time, receive from the Lords and Commons, assembled in Our Parliament in England, with our Consent and Approbation, signified under Our Royal Hand. In Witness....

Bill against Kilvert, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Glyn do forthwith bring into this House, the Bill prepared against Mr. Kilvert and Alderman Abell: And, if he be absent, Mr. Grimston is desired to bring in the same.

Bailing a Prisoner.

Ordered, That Rowland Wilson, now in the Custody of the Serjeant, shall be bailed.

Sir J. Harvey, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Harvey Knight, Rich. Kemp, and Captain Christo. Wormeley shall not depart the Kingdom, without Special Order and Licence first had and obtained from this House.


Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr. Page;

That the Lords had totally condescended to the Desires of this House at the last Conference: And have appointed Four Members of their House, to meet with a proportionable Number of this House, to draw up the Order accordingly.

Mr. Pym, Sir Jo. Hotham, Sir Henry Vaine, Sir T. Barrington, Mr. Cage, Sir Jo. Colpeper, Mr. Martyn, Mr. Strode, are appointed to meet with this Committee of the Lords.

Commrs to Scotland.

Mr. Nicholls comes to the Table; and in Person receives from Mr. Speaker's own Hands, the Petition, Commission, and Instructions.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Ellis hath Leave to go into the Country for a short time.

Ordered, That Mr. Scowen shall be added to Mr. Hotham, and other the Members of this House, that are to go into Yorkshire, about the Disbanding of the King's Army.

Cooper's Case.

Mr. Ellis reports the Case of one Mr. Cooper, a Minister, who was suspended for not reading the Book for Recreations on the Lord's Day.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Suspension of Mr. Cooper, Rector of Alton in the County of Hunt, is illegal.

Resolved, That Doctor Rone and Sir Jo. Lamb, shall give Reparation to the said Mr. Cooper, for his unjust Suspension.

Resolved, That this Suspension shall be taken off.

Post Meridiem.

Defence of the Kingdom.

ORDERED, That the Committee appointed to consider of putting the Kingdom into a Posture of Defence shall meet To-morrow Morning at Seven of Clock, in the Exchequer chamber, to consider of the Defects of the Navy.

Carrington's Estate.

1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Settling of certain Lands and Hereditaments, sometimes belonging to John Carrington Esquire, upon Wm. Carrington, Grandchild and Heir Male of the said John Carrington.

Customs on Tobacco.

1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the Payment of Custom for Tobacco of English Plantations, brought into this Realm before the 25th Day of May 1641.

Reeve's Petition.

The Petition of Tho. Reeve, a Prisoner in Ludgate, on the Behalf of himself and others, Prisoners in the Fleet.

Hone's, &c. Petition.

The humble Petition of Peter Hone Lieutenant Colonel, Sir Tho. Pygott Knight, Captain John Bayty, and Captain Henry Ashley, was this Day read.

Disbanding the Army.

Mr. Pime reports the Order assented unto by the Lords: Which was read, in hæc Verba;

Whereas it was Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, the 7th of August 1641. that the Horsetroops of the King's Army be forthwith disbanded; whereunto his Majesty gave his Consent, and signified his gracious Pleasure to have it effected accordingly; all which was certified to the Earl of Holland, General of his Majesty's Army, by Two several Letters from the Speakers of both Houses respectively, and withal a Copy of the same sent unto him: We understand, by a Letter from the Lord General, that none of the Horse are yet disbanded; nor intended to be disbanded, until the Fourand-twentieth of this Month; and that it is propounded, that some of the Foot shall then be disbanded, before the rest of the Horse: Now both Houses of Parliament, expecting that this Order should have been performed accordingly, do hereby expresly order, that the Lord General (all further Delays and Excuses set apart) shall forthwith disband all the Horse Troops of the Army, before any of the Foot; and command them, and all the Officers of the said Horse Troops, to depart from the Army: Which they do hereby declare to be a Matter of great Importance to the Good of the Commonwealth; and therefore they do expect a quick and ready Obedience thereunto, as well by the Lord General, as by all other Commanders, Officers, and Soldiers, of the Army; whereof they expect a strict and speedy Account.

This Order was, by Resolution upon the Question, assented unto.

Sir Jo. Colepeper and Mr. Pym were appointed to draw a Letter, to be sent to the Lord General; and to present it to the House.

Leave of Absence.

Sir H. Anderson has Leave to go into the Country, upon his own Occasions.

Disbanding the Army.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Rushworth, the Clerk's Assistant, shall, by Order of this House, forthwith go Post to Yorke, to carry the Order of both Houses of Parliament to the Lord General, concerning the Disbanding of the Horse of the King's Army: And that Mr. Wheeler shall forthwith pay unto him the Fifty Pounds, according to the Report made by him Yesterday, for the Distribution of the Monies to the Officers of this House, and others: And the House will take him into Consideration, to require him for his Pains and Charges in this Journey.

Officers of the House, &c.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Report, Yesterday made by Mr. Wheeler, concerning the Distribution of the Monies to the Officers and others, shall be confirmed.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Remainder of this Money, when it shall be collected, shall be distributed among the Ushers of the Court of Wards, the Clerks of the Rolls, and the Ushers of the Duchy-court.

Preston Rectory.

2da vice lecta est Billa, An Act for disappropriating the Rectory impropriate of Preston, in the County of Suff', and for the Union of the said Rectory and Vicarage; and, upon Question, committed unto the Committee for the Bill of Emanuell College: And are to meet on Tuesday next at Two post meridiem, in the Exchequercourt: And the Knights and Burgesses of the County of Suff' are added to this Committee.

Letters to Ld. General, &c.

A Letter presented by the Committee, to be sent to the Lord General, was read; and ordered to be written, and signed by Mr. Speaker.

Another Letter was likewise presented from the Committee, to be sent to the Lord Fairefax, Sir Arth. Ingram the elder, and Mr. Mallory the younger; and ordered to be fair written, and signed by Mr. Speaker.

There was likewise ordered to be sent with these Letters a Copy of the Order of both Houses, both to the Lord General, and the Lord Fairefax, and the rest.

Mr. Rushworth carried these Letters and Orders.