House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 20 August 1641

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 20 Aug. 1641.


Beauchamp's Nat.

MR. Michael Beauchamp, who has a Bill of Naturalization depending here, this Day took the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy.

South Somercoates Manor.

2da vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Sale of the Manor of South Somercoates, and certain Lands there, and in North Somercoates, in the County of Lincoln, notwithstanding an Entail thereof formerly made: Upon Question, committed unto the Committee for Bills of Naturalization: And are to meet upon it the First Thursday in Michaelmas Term: And the Knights and Burgesses of the County of Lincoln are added to this Committee.

Sir W. Bryherst.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning Sir Wm. Bryherst shall sit this Afternoon, at Two of Clock: And that the Report of that Business shall be made To-morrow Morning.

Bailing Prisoners.

Ordered, That Mr. Wilson Vintner shall be bailed: And that Jacob Marten and Ralph Ingram shall be accepted as Bail for him; the Principal in Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security in Five thousand Pounds apiece.

That Mr. Martin Broadgate shall likewise be bailed, upon the Securities of Nath. Owen and John Goldwell; the Principal in Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security in Five thousand Pounds apiece.

That Mr. John Slany shall be bailed, upon the same Mens Security, and the like Sums:

That Mich. Gardiner shall be bailed, upon the Security of Henry Gardiner of London, Merchant, and Tho. Young of London, Gentleman; the Principal in Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security in Five thousand Pounds apiece:

That Geo. Shawe shall be bailed, upon the Security of James Walsham Apothecary, and John Shaw Merchant; the Principal in Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security in Five thousand Pounds apiece.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Guy Palmes has Leave to go into the Country.

Transporting Calve-skins.

Mr. Green reports the Business concerning Leather.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House is of Opinion, that the Skins stayed and seized, by Order of this House, are not Calves-skins within the Meaning of the Statute, and ought not to be transported.

Resolved, upon the Question, That these Skins, so styed and seized as aforesaid, shall be forthwith sold in Leadenhall Market, at the best Advantage, by the Serjeant attending on this House, assisted with one Michell, the Officer that stayed them; and that the Money shall be paid into the Chamber of London; there to remain till the House shall take farther Order therein.

Ordered, That the Farmers and Officers of the Custom-house shall forthwith send down Copies of the Order of 17° Aug' concerning the Transportation of Calves-skins, to all the Out-ports, that Notice of it may be taken in all Places.

Commrs to Scotland.

That the Committee of Five, appointed to examine Mr. Walsh, and Mr. Selden, and the Lord Falkland, do forthwith retire into the Inner Court of Wards, to prepare some Authority and Warrant, to be derived to those Gentlemen of this House that are to go into Scotland.

Transporting Calve-skins.

That all the Patents concerning the Transportation of Calves-skins shall be brought into the Custody of the Clerk of this House To-morrow Morning; and that the Patent itself granted to Bristoll, for the Transportation of Calves-skins, shall be brought in To-morrow; or else, that the Gentlemen that serve for that City shall bring in a true Copy of that Patent To-morrow Morning.

Commrs to Scotland.

Mr. Pym reports an Ordinance of Parliament, concerning Agents and Committees to be sent to attend the King in Scotland, made and assented to by the Lords and Commons, upon the Twentieth of August 1641:

The Lords and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, do hereby ordain and appoint Wm. Earl of Bedford, Edw. Lord Howard, Two of the Peers of the Lords House, Nath. Feinis Esquire, Sir William Armyn, Baronet, Sir Philip Stapleton Knight, and Jo. Hampden Esquire, Members of the House of Commons; to be Agents and Committees for both Houses of Parliament, to attend the King's Majesty during his Absence in the Kingdom of Scotland; and do hereby authorize them, or any Three or more of them, from time to time, to present to his most Excellent Majesty the humble Desires, Counsel, and Advice of his Majesty's most loyal Subjects, the Lords and Commons in Parliament, according to such Instructions and Directions as are hereunto annexed, or shall, at any time hereafter, be sent unto them by the Order and Consent of both Houses.


1. You shall humbly desire his Majesty, that the Treaty agreed upon betwixt the Commissioners of England and Scotland, confirmed and ratified in this present Parliament, may likewise be ratified and confirmed in the Parliament of Scotland.

2. You shall present to his Majesty the just Demands of any of his loyal Subjects of England, concerning a due Satisfaction to be made of all Debts due to them for Money, Arms, or Provisions, taken up by the Scottish Army.

3. If you shall understand, that the Army of Scotland is not returned back, or the Army of England not disbanded, according to the Articles of the Treaty, and Order of Parliament; you shall be very instant and earnest in petitioning his Majesty, that, all Obstacles and Impediments taken away, the Kingdom be freed from that great Charge, and those Mischiefs, under which it groans by reason of those Armies.

4. You shall, by all fit Ways of Petition and Intercession to his Majesty, further and preserve the Peace and good Correspondency betwixt the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland.

5. You shall, from time to time, certify both Houses of Parliament such Accidents and Occurences, as may concern the Good of this Kingdom.

Money for disbanding the Army.

Whereas it was ordered by the House of Commons, the Seventeenth of August instant, that Twenty thousand Pounds, out of the Money received at Westminster and London, should be forthwith sent down for the Disbanding of the Army: It is this Day Ordered, by the said House, That the said Twenty thousand Pounds shall be made Thirty thousand Pounds; and that Seventeen thousand Pounds thereof, now in Readiness with the Treasurers of London, and Six thousand Pounds, now ready in Sir Robert Pie's Hands, and Mr. Wheeler's shall be forthwith paid to the Hands of Mr. John Paye, deputed by Sir Wm. Uvedall Knight, Treasurer of his Majesty's Army, for the Receiving of such Monies as this House should order to be sent down with all convenient Speed to the Army; and that the Seven thousand Pounds, Residue of the said Thirty thousand Pounds, shall, with all Speed, be paid to the said Mr. John Paye, by the Treasurers at London or Westminster, as Monies shall first come in at either Place: And Acquittances, under the Hand of the said Mr. Paye, shall be a sufficient Discharge unto the Treasurers for the City of London, and Westminster, respectively, for such Monies as they shall pay unto the said Mr. Pay, by virtue of this Order.

Forces raised in Ireland.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Cage, Mr. Hollis, Mr. Strode, Sir H. Vane, are appointed to retire into the Court of Wards, to examine Mr. Walsh, an Irish Gentleman, upon an Information given here, concerning Forces raised in Ireland, and Ships provided for the Transportation of them; and concerning any thing else, that may tend to the Discovery of the Truth of that Business.

Queen declines sending to Scotland.

Mr. Hollis reports, that he and Sir Ph. Stapleton attended her Majesty, to know if she would please to command those Gentlemen of this House that are employed to his Majesty, any Service: Her Majesty returns her Thanks for the Respects of this House; but she has lately sent to his Majesty; and has nothing, at this time, to write.

Commrs to Scotland.

Sir H. Vane is appointed to go up to the Lords, to desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning those Gentlemen that are appointed by both Houses to go into Scotland.

Transporting Calve-skins.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Report concerning the Business of Transportation of Calves-skins shall precede the Reading the Petitions concerning the Reformado Soldiers.


Sir H. Vane brings Answer, that the Lords will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Printing Ld. General's Letter.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Printing of a Letter, which came from my Lord General, and was read at the last Conference.

Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that the House has considered of the Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.


The Committee this Day appointed to examine Mr. Walsh, are appointed Reporters and Managers of these Two Conferences.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Edw. Masters has Leave to go into the Country for a Fortnight.

Commrs to Scotland.

Mr. Pym reports, that he had delivered the Model and Frame of the Ordinance and Instructions: That their Lordships like well the Materials; and... report them to the House; and return their Answer with convenient Speed.

Printing Ld. General's Letter.

Lord Chamberlain said, he sent a Letter hither, which came from the Lord General to him; which Letter was fit to be communicated to the Parliament; and he finds it to be printed.

They did recommend to this House the Consideration of the inordinate Licence of Printing; and to inquire after the Printing of this Letter in particular.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee concerning Printing to inquire, who has printed the Copy of a Letter, sent from the Earl of Holland to the Lord Chamberlain: And to take some Course, and propound it to the House, for preventing the inordinate Licence of Printing, till the Bill can pass: And they have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards: And Sir H. Mildmay is added to this Committee.


A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Matter of the last free Conference, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Commrs to Scotland.

Ordered, That the Reporters of this Conference shall propose unto the Lords, that the Lords and Gentlemen, that are to go from both Houses into Scotland, may be authorized to let my Lord General know, with what Earnestness both Houses expect, that their Order concerning the present Disbanding of the Horse of the King's Army should be put in due Execution.

Mr. Pym reports, that the Lords had assented to every Word of the Ordinance and Instructions; only they desired, that the Word "Agents" might be left out.

Which was done accordingly.

Disbanding the Army.

The Lords do likewise agree, that those Lords and Gentlemen, that are to go into Scotland, may be authorized, by an Order from both Houses, to go to the Lord General, in their Passage into Scotland, to desire, that the Order of both Houses for the Disbanding the Horse may be put in speedy Execution: And they are to give an Account of the Lord General's Answer.

Mr. Pym and Mr. Hollis were appointed to draw an Order to that Purpose.

The Ordinance and Instructions were ordered to be forthwith ingrossed.

Reports to be made.

Ordered, That the Report concerning Protections shall be made on Monday Morning next at Nine of Clock: And that if there be any Time, the Report concerning Londonderry shall be then made likewise.

Bailing a Prisoner.

The House doth accept of Mark Queasthead and Edward Bosden to be Bail for Tho. Jones; and do order, that, upon his entering into a Bond of Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security of Five thousand Pounds a piece, that he will at all times, de die in diem, attend the House, ... shall be forthwith bailed.