House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 24 August 1641

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, 24 Aug. 1641.


Printing Ld. General's Letter.

MR. Grimston reports from the Committee, the Manner of printing the Copy of the Letter from the Earl of Holland, &c.:

That Thomas Symonds was the first that printed the Earl Holland's Letter: That he had the Copy of the Letter of Francis Cowles, who bought it of Ambrose Bayly for Two Shillings; and Bayly had it of Wm. Harrison, One of the Servants to the Serjeant of this House. They examined Harrison how he came by the Copy: And he confessed, that Sir Edw. Payton sent him for it to Sir Anth. Irby; and that after he had received it of Sir Anth. Irby, he lent it to Bayly, before he carried it to Sir Edw. Payton; who took a Copy of it.

Scandalous Pamphlet.

2. There is a scandalous Pamphlet, called, The Anatomy of the Et-cætera: Nich. Bourne, One of the Wardens of the Company of Stationers, by virtue of an Order of the House of Commons, (finding it printed in the House of one Rich. Herne) he would have seized it: Herne told him, whosoever laid their Hands upon his Goods, he would be the Death of him: He reported these Words twice, and bound it with an Oath.

He farther said, that he knew of the Printing of it, and would justify; and that he would do somewhat else, and justify it too.

It likewise appeared, that Herne would have wrested the Order of the House of Commons out of Bourne's Hands.

Herne confesseth, that he had this Book of one Richard Harding: And Harding confessed, that he had it of Tho. Bray, an Oxford Scholar, who turned it out of Poetry into Prose.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Matthew Symonds shall be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, for printing a Letter that was sent from the Lord General to a Peer of the Lords House, without any Order of Parliament, after that he was acquainted with the Order of this House, that does inhibit the Printing of any thing that may concern the Proceedings of this House.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Rich. Heren shall be sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, for printing the Pamphlet, intituled, The Anatomy of the Et cætera, and for contemning the Order of this House, and for abusing the Warden of the Company of the Stationers, when he was in Execution of the Order of this House.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Tho. Bray, an Oxon Scholar, who, as it was affirmed by one Richard Harding, turned that Pamphlet out of Poetry into Prose, and delivered it unto him, shall be sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant attending on this House.

Letter to Sheriffs.

J. Falkland reports the Letter to be sent to the Sheriffs, which was read, and assented unto: And Ordered, upon the Question, to be written fair, ready for Mr. Speaker's Hand, and to be forthwith sent away to the several Sheriffs.

Letters read.

Two several Letters, One from J. Rushworth, from Yorke, of the 21° of Aug.; and another from Sir Wm. Armyn, Sir Ph. Stapleton, and Mr. Hampden, from Stilton, of the 22d of Aug.; both directed to Mr. Speaker; were read.


23 August 1641, received Poll-money.

Barks - - - - - - - 1,600
Bedford - - - - - - 1,091
Bucks - - - - - - - 3,701
Devon, Exon - - - - - - 240
Essex - - - - - - - 5,402
Com' Glouc' - - - - - - 600
Hantshire - - - - - - 400
Herts - - - - - - - 1,644
Kent - - - - - - - 688
Suff' 5,800
Surrey - - - - - - - 3,998
Coventry - - - - - - 450
Midd' - - - - - - - 4,700
London - - - - - - - 32,670
Total Poll - 54,064
Loan Money - - - - - - 57,460
London Gent. - - - - - 11,000
Total Poll and Loan - 122,524
From Sir P.Pindar - - - - 7,000
Total received - 129,524
Payments - - - - - - 122,951
Rest in Cash - - - - - - 6,573

Whereas this House does now order Thirty thousand Pounds to be forthwith sent down to the Army; the House doth likewise order, that, of the said Thirty thousand Pounds, the Treasurers and Commissioners at London shall forthwith pay unto Mr. Pay (authorized by Sir Wm. Uvedale, to receive such Monies as this House shall at any time appoint to be sent down to the Army) Twenty-one thousand Pounds out of the Poll and Loan Money; and that the Commissioners for the Four Subsidies shall be desired, according to the Act of Parliament, to order the Payment of Nine thousand Pounds to the said Mr. Pay, remaining of the said Four Subsidies in ready Cash in the Chamber of London, to make up the said Thirty thousand Pounds: And that Acquittances, under the said Mr. Pay's Hands, to the Commissioners and Treasurers respectively, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Commissioners, and Treasurers, for so much Money, as by virtue of this Order shall be paid unto the said Mr. Pay.

Persons to attend Committee.

Ordered, That Mr. Tho. Hardey, Goldsmith of London, and Sir Jo. Hales, be forthwith required to attend the Committee of the King's Army this Afternoon, at Two of Clock.

Army Affairs, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as may stand with the Conveniency of this House; and it is impart unto them, a Letter which came from Mr. Nicholas, expressing the King's Desires concerning the Levying of Soldiers in Ireland: Two Letters from the Lord General, to the Lord Keeper, and the Lord Chamberlain, concerning the Marching away of both Armies: A Proposition concerning the Ordnance and Ammunition at Hull: A Proposition concerning the Queen's Priests.

Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that this House will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

a A Letter from the Lord General to the Lord Chamberlain, of the 20th of Aug. was this Day read.

Mr. Hollis, Mr. Pym, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Crue, Lord Falkland, Sir H. Mildmay, Mr. Martin, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.


Resolved, upon the Question, That the Sheriffs of the several Counties of Norf', Cambridge, Hunt', Leicester, Northampton, Rutland, Warwick, and Worcester, together with several Cities that are Counties within those several Counties, shall be ordered by both Houses to pay the Poll-money, collected within their several Counties and Cities at Yorke.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Lords shall be moved to join with this House in an Order to this Effect.

Resolved, That a Letter shall be likewise prepared to that Purpose.

Moved, that several Gentlemen should write private Intimations to the Sheriffs of the said Eight several Counties, to acquaint them with the Order of this House; to the end, that they may dispose themselves to a speedy Performance of it.

Moved, that a Messenger be sent express to carry these Orders, that may bring Answer of the Delivery of the same.

Mr. Pym is to prepare an Order and Letter, to this Purpose.

House to sit.

Ordered, That the House sit this Afternoon at Two of Clock.

Sir Jo. Potts went up to the Lords to acquaint them, that this House intends to sit this Afternoon, at Two of Clock; and to desire their Lordships would do the like; if it may stand with their Conveniency.


Ordered, That the Sheriffs shall be strictly required, by this House, to send up the Poll-money with all Speed, by sure Convoys; and not to expect the Returning of it by Bills of Exchange.

Berwick Garrison.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that a Letter be sent to Sir Jo. Conyers, Governor of Berwick, to require him forthwith to set the Soldiers of that Garrison on Work, for the Sleighting of those Works: And that the Lords, at a Conference, shall be moved to this Purpose.

Bailing a Prisoner.

Ordered, That Gregory Dexter Printer, who printed a Pamphlet, intituled, The Protestation protested; and was therefore, and for other Misdemeanors expressed in the said Order, committed Prisoner to the Prison of the Gatehouse, there to remain during the Pleasure of this House, shall be forthwith bailed, upon giving good Security to the Serjeant attending on this House, to attend the said House de die in diem, at all such times, as he shall be by the House required.

Reformado Officers.

Whereas certain Reformado Officers of the King's Army were, by an Order of the 5th of Aug. instant, appointed to have a Month's Pay paid unto them, immediately after that the Armies were disbanded: It is now Ordered, That the said Reformado Officers shall have a Month's Pay forthwith paid unto them, according to the old Establishment, so soon as Sir Jo. Hotham and Mr. Scawen shall have brought in a List of their Names, and the Sums due unto them.

Disbanding the Army.

It was moved, That the Lords might be desired, that Proclamation might be sent with all Speed into the Countries, through which the Soldiers that are disbanded are to pass, to repress any Tumults or Insolencies that may be committed or occasioned by them in their Passage; according as it was formerly desired of his Majesty, and his Majesty was graciously pleased to condescend unto it.

Post Meridiem:

Customs on foreign Goods.

THREE Petitions, One from the East India Merchants, One from the Merchants trading to the Levant Seas, and another from the Merchant Adventurers were read.

Ordered, That a Conference shall be desired with the Lords; and, at that Conference, the Lords be desired, that they would join with this House to move his Majesty, that his Majesty will be pleased to extend his Grace to all Merchants, concerning the Freeing of all foreign Goods, that shall be imported, from Custom and Subsidy, when they shall be exported again within a Year, in the same manner as formerly he did, before any Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage was granted by this Parliament: And that a Privy Seal to that Purpose be sent ready drawn to the Committees of both Houses, to present to his Majesty for his Assent unto it.

This Whole was delivered in a Message to the Lords, by Order on Monday the 30th of Aug. instant.


An Ordinance concerning the Sheriffs of Eight Counties, viz. Worcester, &c. paying their Poll-money at York, was read; and upon the Question, assented unto.

Reformado Officers.

Sir Jo. Hotham delivered in the List of the Officers Reformado, that were ordered in the Forenoon to have a Month's Pay paid unto them.

Army Affairs.

Mr. Hollis reports the Conference this Morning.

His Majesty's Signification, concerning the Levying of Soldiers in Ireland for the Service of the King of Spaine:

Divers Letters from the Lord General, concerning the Marching of the Armies, were read:

Queen's Priests.

Concerning the Queen's Priests, the Lords do conceive, that many loose scattered Priests, when they are apprehended, do give themselves out, that they are the Queen's Priests; by which means the Service is interrupted, and her Majesty much wronged: Therefore they think it fit, that her Majesty should send in a List of her Priests.

Ordnance, &c.

Lord Newport moved, That some of the King's Ships might be sent, for the Transporting of the Ordnance and Ammunition, under the Command of Men of Trust.

Money for disbanding the Army.

Mr. Cromwell went up to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Providing and Sending of Monies for disbanding the King's Army, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.

Mr. Cromwell brings Answer, that the Lords will give a present Meeting, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Lord Falkland, * Clotworthy, * Hotham, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Sir W. Ford.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Ford, that was apprehended by Order of this House, as One of the new Company of the Soap-boilers, upon the Security of H. Weston of Okeham of Surrey, Esquire, and Edward Forde, Esquire, the Principal in Ten thousand Pounds, and the Security in Five thousand Pounds apiece.

Ordinance agreed to by Lords

Mr. Pym reports, that he has delivered the Ordinance to the Lords at the Conference; and that the Lords carried it into their House; and have read it, and assented unto it; And then it was put to the Question here; and, upon the Question, ordered to be ingrossed.


Sir Jo. Colepeper, Mr. Cage, * Barrington, Mr. Pym, Lord Falkland, Sir Ro. Pye, are to prepare an Order, and to present it to the House, concerning the Review of the Assessments made of the Poll-money in the Countries.

The House doth order and declare, that in due time they will take into Consideration, to recompense the Officers of the City, that have been employed in the Receiving and paying out of Monies.

Disarming Recusants.

Ordered, That the Ordinance and Instructions concerning the Disarming of Recusants shall be presented to the House To-morrow at Eight of Clock.

Levying Men for Spain.

Ordered, That the Report now made by Mr. Hollis, concerning the Levies of Men in Ireland for the King of Spain's Service, shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow at Nine.


  • a. a This, and the preceding Paragraph; are wrote in the Margin of the original Journal.