House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 23 October 1641

Pages 293-294

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 23 Oct. 1641.


Troopers Petition.

THE humble Petition of the Gentlemen Troopers, late under the Command of Sir John Conyers Knight, Lieutenant General of his Majesty's Army, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to Mr. Pym, in the same manner as the other Petitions of the like nature are referred.

Scandalous Pamphlet.

Ordered, That the Master and Wardens of the Company of the Stationers be required, from this House, forthwith to enquire out, who printed the scandalous Pamphlet, intituled, Articles against Sir John Conyers Knight, &c.; and inform this House of the Name of the Person.

Clergy's Temporal Jurisdiction.

3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for disenabling all Persons in Holy Orders to exercise any Temporal Jurisdiction or Authority.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Clause, viz. "or in any other Temporal Court whatsoever, by Virtue or Colour of any Law, Statute, Commission, Charter, or otherways, within the Kingdom of England, or Dominion of Wales," shall be struck out of the Bill abovesaid.

And after, the Bill, upon Question, was passed; and sent up to the Lords by Sir Gilbert Gerrard: And he was appointed to desire the Lords, that it might be proceeded in with Expedition.

Troopers Complaints.

Mr. Pym reports further concerning the Troops:

That the first thing that is general in their Case is, the Deduction of Two Pence per Diem for their Arms, till 2° Feb. which was for Eight Months time: Which Sum is stopped in the Treasurer's Hands, for the Restitution of their Arms, and in lieu thereof: And for that strict Account was not taken of their Arms, the Lord General ordered, that they should have a Fortnight's Pay, for their Conducts, in Recompence of the said Defalcation.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that the Troopers should rest satisfied with the last Order made by the Lord General, concerning the Deduction of Two-pence per Diem, for their Arms, till 2 Feb. 1640; with this Declaration, that if any Trooper can make it appear, that more hath been deducted, or withheld from him, than to the 2d of Feb. that he shall have Satisfaction from those in whose Hands the same do remain.

Proceedings against Judge Berkeley, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Bennett;

The Lords have commanded them to let this House know, that they intend, upon Tuesday come Sevennight, to proceed against Judge Berkeley; and that, afterwards, in convenient time, they intended to proceed against the rest: And desire this House would take notice of it, that they may be provided for those Businesses.

Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind of this Message.

Disbanding the Army.

Mr. Strode is appointed to go up to the Lords, to acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready to give their Lordships a Meeting, by a Committee of both Houses, according to the Message sent from the Lords Yesterday, concerning a Relation to be made by the Lord General, touching the Disbanding of the late Army in the North.

Passes to Soldiers.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House is of Opinion, and holds it fit, that Orders should be sent to the Officers of the several Ports, requiring them to permit all such Soldiers of the late disbanded Army, as shall desire it, to pass beyond the Seas; provided that they take such Oaths, and perform such other Duties, as are usually required, according to the Laws.

The House is further of Opinion, and holds it fit, that such other Soldiers of the late disbanded Army as are Strangers, and not Subjects, or Natives of this Kingdom, shall have Liberty to pass out of the Kingdom; and to receive Entertainment from any foreign Prince.

Disbanding the Army.

Mr. Strode brings Answer that the Lords are ready to give a Meeting, according to their Message Yesterday, touching the Relation to be made concerning the Disbanding of the late Army in the North.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Strode, Mr. John. Clotworthy, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Mr. Bridgeman, Serjeant Wilde, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.