Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Martis, 28 Decembris, 1641.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this shall be the Answer to the Lords Proposition touching a Guard; That this House will join with their Lordships in a Petition to his Majesty for a Guard, so that the same may be commanded by the Earl of Essex, and approved of by both Houses of Parliament.
Scandals concerning Members.
Mr. Glyn presented, from the Committee appointed to meet with a Committee of Lords, for the Drawing of a Petition to be presented unto his Majesty concerning the Scandal laid upon some Members of both Houses, a Petition, in hac Verba:
Whereas, during the Time of Your Majesty's last being in Scotland, the Queen's Majesty received Information, that at a Meeting, in Kensington, where the Earl of Essex, [the Earl] of Newport, the Lord Viscount Say and Seale, the Lord Mandevile, the Lord Wharton, Members of the Lords House; the Lord Dungaroon, Mr. Nath. Fienis, Sir John Clotworthy, and Mr. John Pym, Members of the House of Commons; were all present, when a Discourse of some Plots, that should be done in this Kingdom, or in Scotland, the Earl of Newport should say, "If there be such a Plot, yet here are his Wife and Children;" insinuating the same to signify, that the Person of her Majesty, and her Children, should be seized upon:
And whereas Your Majesty, upon Friday last, was pleased to demand of the Earl of Newport, whether his Lordship heard any Debate at Kensington about seizing upon the Queen, and her Children; which when his Lordship had denied, with many and deep Asseverations, Your Majesty replied again, That he was to tell Your Majesty no more than You knew already; and therefore should consider well what he should answer: And his Lordship denying it the Second time, Your Majesty parting from him, replied, You were sorry for his ill Memory; seeming thereby to give Credit to that Information:
Which Information and Report tend not only to the great Scandal of the Members of both Houses of Parliament before named, but express an Endeavour to stir up Jealousies, and work a Division, between Your Majesty, and Your Parliament:
It is therefore the humble and instant Desire of the Lords and Commons in this Parliament, that Your Majesty will be pleased to declare, who was the Reporter or Reporters of those Words pretended to be spoken at Kensington by the Earl of Newport; and that Your Majesty will be likewise pleased to move her Majesty to discover who acquainted her therewith: And this, as Your greatest and most faithful Council, they advise Your Majesty to perform; the Exigency of the Affairs of both Kingdoms being such as necessarily require a sudden Remedy; which cannot expect any Possibility of Success, without a right Understanding between Your Majesty and the Parliament: The only Way of effecting whereof is by the present Discovery and Removal of ill Counsels, and false Informers, which, to our great Grief, we have, by Experience, found to be too frequent and active in these dangerous Times.
Tumults about the House.
Mr. Hollis is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, That this House will do whatsoever is fit to suppress any Tumults that shall be against the Safety or Privilege of Parliament: That the Declaration is a Matter of that Consequence, that they cannot as yet agree upon it.
Irish Affairs, &c.
He is likewise to deliver unto their Lordships the Two Letters sent from them last Night concerning Ireland; and to acquaint them of One Passage in that Letter directed to the Earl of Holland, "of Matters trusted to the Messenger, which he durst not commit to a Letter;" that of this Business they have as yet heard nothing: And likewise to put the Lords in mind of the Bills for Pressing of Mariners and Soldiers.
Information against Venn.
State of Munster.
Resolved, upon the Question, That there shall be forthwith sent from hence One thousand Five hundred Musquets, and Five hundred Corslets, to Bristoll, to be with all Speed transported to Yohale, in Munster, to be disposed of by the President there, for the Defence and Security of that Province.
Resolved, That Two Regiments of One thousand Foot in a Regiment, be forthwith raised of Voluntiers out of the Western Counties; and that the Colonels may be contracted with . . Thirty Shillings for every Soldier, for the Raising and Transporting them into Munster; that their Entertainment may be the same that the House hath allowed for the other Officers; and that they may be mustered at their Landing in Munster; and that the Officers Pay may then begin.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Two Ships, of about Two hundred Ton apiece, rigged and provided as Men of War, may be hired at Bristoll, for the present Guarding of the Coast of Munster, and to transport Men, Arms, and Ammunition, from hence.
Resolved, That a Committee be appointed by this House to take care for the Execution of that which shall be ordered herein: And if there shall be any Delay or Obstruction therein, to examine where the Fault shall be, and to report it to the House.
Resolved, upon the Question, That there shall be an Addition of Three thousand Foot, and Three hundred Horse, over and above the Supplies already agreed upon, shall be forthwith sent into Dublyn; whereof a Thousand Foot, and Two Troops of Horse, to be sent into Connaught, for the Defence of that Province.
Issuing Arms, &c.
Resolved, &c. That the Lords shall be desired to join with this House, to move his Majesty to grant a general Warrant to the Earl of Newport, for the Issuing of such Arms and Ammunition, from time to time, as shall be thought fit by both Houses of Parliament.
Forces, &c. for Ireland.
Resolved, &c. That the Lords shall be desired to join with this House to move his Majesty to grant a general Warrant to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, for the Transporting, from time to time, of such Men, Horse, and Ammunition, as shall be thought fit by both Houses of Parliament.
It is this Day Ordered, by the Commons House of Parliament, That the Committee for the Navy, where Sir John Colpeper has the Chair, shall examine, why the Fifty-five thousand Pounds ordered in August last, by both Houses, for the Supply of the Navy, out of the last Bill of Tonage and Poundage, hath not been accordingly performed; and, having found out the Obstructions therein, shall present the same to this House with all convenient Speed; together with their Opinions, what is fittest to be done thereupon: And they are farther to examine, what Monies are likely to come in upon the present Bill of Tonage and Poundage, during the Time it is granted; and to report it to this House; that the ordinary and extraordinary Charge of the Navy for the Year 1642, may be provided for out of the same: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, and Writings: And are to meet To-morrow Morning in the Star-chamber, at Eight of the Clock.
It is farther Ordered, That, in case the Monies arising out of the last Bill of Tonage and Poundage, shall not be found sufficient to discharge the above said Sum of Fiftyfive thousand Pounds, that then what shall be wanting thereof shall be forthwith paid to the Treasurers of the Navy, out of the Monies coming in upon the present Bill of Tonage and Poundage.
It is also Ordered, That the Sum of Two thousand Fifty-eight Pounds Ten Shillings shall be paid, out of the Monies payable by virtue of the aforesaid Bill, to the Officers of the Ordnance, for the Expences in their Office, for the Setting out of the last Summer's Fleet, according to the Engagement of this House.
It is the Opinion of the Committee, That, in the Case of Sir H. Vane junior, concerning the Office of the Treasurer of the Navy, that this House do declare, that they will take That into Consideration when they shall consider of the Passing the next Bill for a Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage.