Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Mercurii, 29 Decembris, 1641.
Committee to attend the King.
MESSAGE from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;
"That the Lords gave them in Command last Night, this House being then risen, to attend this Morning, and let you know, that the King hath appointed One a Clock this Afternoon to be ready to receive your Petition concerning the Words informed to be spoken at Kensington: The Lords have appointed Seven Lords;-to desire this House to appoint a proportionable Number to join with those Lords, to wait upon the King at Whitehall."
Sir Christopher Wray, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Edw. Partriche, Sir Philip Stapleton, Sir Arthur Ingram, Mr. Perepoint, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Sir Jo. Holland, Sir Simon D'Ewes, Sir Wm. Litton, Sir Rob. Cooke, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Mr. Peard, Mr. Wynwood.
Mr. Speaker returned this Answer; That this House had taken into Consideration their Message; and had resolved to appoint a proportionable Number, to attend his Majesty accordingly.
Mr. Wheeler reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the Accounts due unto the Masters of the Ships that were to transport the Ordinance from Berwick, &c.
This Account was this Day read; and allowed of; and ordered to be paid by the Treasurers of the Poll-money at Westminster.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill concerning University College, do meet on Wednesday next at Eight of Clock, in the Star-chamber.
Grant to Rushworth.
Ordered, That Fifty Pounds shall be allowed to Mr. Rushworth for his Two Journies, performed by the Command of this House, to Yorke and Newcastle; and that the same Sum of Fifty Pounds be paid unto the said Mr. Rushworth by the Treasurers for the Poll-money at Westminster.
The Petition of Owen Oconnellys was this Day read: And it is Ordered, that Mr. Cromwell, and Mr. Hotham, do repair unto the Lord Lieutenant: and, from this House, recommend the said Oconnellys unto the Lord Lieutenant, according to a former Resolution of this House; and acquaint his Lordship, that they know his Deserts so much, that they expect his Lordship should give him the Command of a Troop of Dragooners, according to the former Desires of this House, in regard he was recommended before any other for that Province.
Forces for Ireland.
Sir Rich. Cave, and Mr. Jepson, are appointed to withdraw, and prepare an Order upon the Propositions made here by Mr. Jepson, on the Behalf of the Lord Inchequin, Himself, and SirWm. Courtney, for the Raising of Forces for Supply of the Province of Munster.
Resolved, upon the Question, That a Committee shall be appointed to prepare a Declaration, upon the Heads, now propounded here, concerning the Obstructions in the Affairs of Ireland, and the Causes thereof; and present it to the House.
Commitment of Apprentices.
Ordered, That Sir Ro. Pye, Mr. Law. Whittacre, Mr. Wheeler, and Mr. Alderman Penington, do call the Officers, and such others unto them, that have committed some Apprentices; and examine the Grounds of their Commitment; and by whose Authority they were committed; and report them to the House.
Earl of Bristoll.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Matters this Day debated, concerning the Removal of the Earl of Bristoll from the King and Council, shall be refered to this Committee, to prepare and present it to the House.
Privilege-Words spoken in Lords.
Resolved, upon the Question, That a Message shall be sent unto the Lords, to acquaint their Lordships, That this House finds, by common Fame, that it hath been said in the Lords House, by the Lord Digby, and offered to be justified by him, "that the House of Commons have invaded the Privileges of the Lords House, and the Liberty of the Subject;" and that he did likewise say in the Lords House, "that this was no free Parliament;" and to desire their Lordships, that it these Words were spoken by him, that Right may be done to the Commons of England against him; and that if there were no such Words spoken by him; that then a Declaration may be set forth by their Lordships, to acquit this House of that Scandal.
Sir Philip Stapilton is appointed to go with this Message.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Hollis went up with the Message signed Yesterday to Mr.Hollis.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir [Edward Leech] and Doctor Bennett;
The Lords desire a present Conference by a Committee of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, to impart unto you a Message received from his Majesty, concerning the Affairs of Ireland; and likewise to impart a Proposition, made by the Earl of Warwick, for the present Transporting of Men and Ammunition into Ireland.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Sir H. Vane, Mr. Pym, Mr. Glyn, SirPh. Stapilton, Mr.Pury, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Hollis brings Answer, That, to the Passage in the Letter, He never yet heard any thing of the Bearer specified in that Letter: As for the Bills, they would take them into speedy Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers * *.
Message from the King-Irish Affairs.
Mr. Pym reports the Conference:
That the Lords delivered a Message from his Majesty in Writing:
His Majesty being very sensible of the great Miseries and Distresses of his Subjects in the Kingdom of Ireland, which are daily increasing so fast; and the Blood which hath already been spilt by the Cruelty and Barbarousness of those Rebels, crying out so loud; and perceiving how slowly the Succours designed thither go on; his Majesty hath thought fit to let your Lordships know, and desires you to acquaint the House of Commons therewith, That his Majesty will take care, that, by Commissions which he shall grant, Ten thousand Voluntiers shall be speedily raised for that Service, if so .. the House of Commons shall declare, that they will pay them.
He likewise reported, That the Earl of Warwick had a Ship of Four hundred Ton in the River, ready victualled, which, if this House thought fit, should take in Four hundred Men, and Ammunition, and transport them to Yohale:
That he had another Ship of Two hundred and Fifty Ton, ready victualled and provided, which should take in Two hundred Men, and Ammunition, and transport them to Yohale.
Resolved, upon the Question, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to desire their Lordships, That the Committee of That House for Irish Affairs; may meet with the Committee of This House, to consider of the Propositions made by the Earl of Warwick.
Mr. Jepson is to carry up this Message; and to desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the Affairs of Ireland, according to the Order of last Night.
Answer from Lords.
Sir Philip Stapilton brings Answer, That their Lordships will take your Message into Consideration; and give Answer by Messengers of their own, in due time.
The Question being proposed, whether the Question should be put, at this Time, concerning a Commission to be granted to the Earl of Clandebois for the Command of a Regiment of Foot;
It went with the Negative.
Ordered, That it shall be referred to the Committee appointed on Friday last for the Declaration, with the Addition of Sir John Colpeper, to prepare the Declaration upon the Heads now debated, &c: And are to meet To-morrow at Eight of Clock, in the inner Court of Wards.
Mr. Jepson brings Answer that their Lordships will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Sir John Colpeper is to manage that Part of the Conference that concerns Munster.
Mr. Pym- To desire the Lords to join to petition his Majesty for a general Warrant to be directed to the Lord Lieutenant, for the Transporting of Men, Horse, and Ammunition, as shall be thought requisite, for the Service of Ireland; and likewise for a Warrant to the Master of the Ordnance, for transporting Ammunition, &c. according to the Resolutions last Night.
Sir Rich. Cave is likewise to acquaint the Lords, that it is ordered by this House, that Levy-money shall be allowed to the Lord Inchequin, and Mr. Jepson, for the Raising of Two Troops of Horse, each of them consisting of One hundred Horse, after the Rate of Ten Pounds a Horse; and that Arms shall be provided both for the aforesaid Troops, and likewise for a Third Troop of One hundred Horse to be raised and commanded by Sir Wm. Courtney: All which Three Troops are to be paid by the Province of Munster, according to the Rate allowed to other Troops in the Irish Army.
Ordered, That Mr. Hotham, and Mr. Cromwell, shall desire the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, from this House, that One of the Two Regiments to be sent into Munster may be reserved, to be commanded by the Lord President of that Province.
It is likewise Ordered, That Mr. Hotham, and Mr. Cromwell, shall recommend Mr. Jepson, from this House, to be Serjeant Major to the Regiment of Horse in Munster, under the Lord President of that Province; and that the Lord Lieutenant be likewise desired, from this House, that One of the Regiments, that is to be sent into the Province of Connaght, may be under the Command of that Province.
Resolved, upon the Question, That such Sums of Money shall be repaid unto Sir Wm. Brereton, as shall appear, upon Account, to have been disbursed by him for the Affairs of Ireland.
State of Money, &c.
Ordered, That To-morrow the House shall take into Consideration the State of the Money; and then, the Scotts Propositions.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Hollis went up to the Lords, to desire their Lordships to send a speedy Answer to the Proposition concerning the Guard.
Ordered, That Captain Venn, and the Citizens of London, do inform themselves of the readiest Way of returning Monies for the Payment of Soldiers there raised for the Service of Ireland; and to acquaint this House therewith.
Forces for Ireland.
Ordered, That the Committee for Irish Affairs shall move the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to give present Order to the Lords Justices of Ireland, to dispose of the supernumerary Men carried over by Sir Simon Harcourt, over and above his own Regiment, as they shall see Cause.
Mr. Hollis, Mr. Pym, Mr. Strode, Sir Edmund Montfort, Mr. Glyn, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Martin, Sir John Hotham, Sir John Colpeper;
This Committee is to prepare a Declaration upon the Heads this Day propounded here, concerning the Obstructions in the Affairs of Ireland, and the Causes thereof; and present it to the House.
And it is likewise Ordered, That the Matters this Day debated, concerning the Removal [of the] Earl of Bristoll from the King and Council, shall be referred to this Committee, to prepare and present it to the House.
Mr. Pym read the Instructions for the Commission to be granted to some Men named by both Houses for the Affairs of Ireland: And it is Ordered, That these Instructions, now read, shall be referred to the Committee of this House for Irish Affairs, to present to the Committee of the Lords, that, they being considered of by them, they may be brought back again for the Consideration of this House: And the same Committee is to prepare Instructions for Mr. Frost, the Commissary of Victuals for West Chester.
Ordered, That the Justices of Peace, the Bailiffs, and other Officers of Westminster, and the Suburbs thereof, be required, from this House, to take care, that a double Watch and Guard may be kept about this City and Suburbs, this Night.
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Hollis brings Answer, That the Lord Keeper told them, that an Answer should be sent, by Messengers of their own, To-morrow Morning.