Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Martis, 8 Feb. 1641.
Mr. Ash a Member of this House, who is arrested upon a mesne Process, at the Suit of Humphry Norbon, be discharged from Arrest; and the Prosecutor, and the Bailiffs that arrested him, be summoned to appear here, to give an Account, why they arrested the Servant of a Member of this House, contrary to the Privilege of Parliament.
Treaty with Scotland.
The Lords having taken into Consideration the Propositions that came from this House, concerning the Treaty with the Scotts;- do agree with this House in all Particulars; except, whereas it is said that the Account shall be given to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, they add, "or to the Governor or Governors of that Kingdom for the Time being."
Temporal Jurisdiction of Bishops.
Two of the Lords House, by Direction of that House, have attended his Majesty, for his Royal Assent unto the Bill for disenabling all Persons in Holy Orders to exercise any temporal Jurisdiction or Authority. The King's Answer is, "That it is a matter of Weight; which his Majesty will take into Consideration, and send an Answer in convenient time."
That this Message shall be referred to a Committee, to consider of some Reasons, to be presented unto the Lords at a Conference, to be offered unto his Majesty from both Houses, to induce him to the speedy Passing of this Bill:
Trial of the Bishops.
Letters, &c. from Berwick.
Message from the King- Pym's Speech respecting Ireland.
HIS Majesty taking notice of a Speech, pretending in the Title to have been delivered by Mr. Pym, in a Conference, and printed by Order of the House of Commons; in which it was affirmed, that since the Stop upon the Ports against all Irish Papists, by both Houses, many the chief Commanders, now in the Head of the Rebels, have been suffered to pass by his Majesty's immediate Warrant; and being very. . . . of having used extreme Caution, in the Granting of Passports into Ireland; so that He conceives either this Paper not to have been so delivered and printed as it pretends, or this House to have received some Misinformation: His Majesty would be resolved, whether this Speech were so delivered and printed; and, if it were, would have this House to review upon what Informations that Particular was grounded; that either That may be found, upon Examination, to have been false, and both this House and his Majesty injured by it; or that his Majesty may know, by what Means, and by whose Fault, his Authority hath been so highly abused, as to be made to conduce to the Assistance of that Rebellion, which he so much detests and abhors; and that he may see Himself fully vindicated from all Reflections of the least Suspicion of that kind.
Letter from Hull.
Letter, &c. from the King - Pym's Speech.
A Letter from his Majesty, dated Feb. 7th, from Windesore, directed to Mr. Speaker, with a Message inclosed, concerning Mr. Pym's delivering in a Speech, at a Conference, "that since the Stop of the Ports against all Irish Papists, by both Houses, many of the chief Commanders, now in the Head of the Rebels, have been suffered, by his Majesty's immediate Warrant."
This Committee is to consider of the Message sent from his Majesty, concerning Papists passing over by his Majesty's immediate Warrant: And they are to consider of all the Informations that have been given to this House, touching this Business; and to consider what is fit to be done upon this Message: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, &c.: And are to meet Tomorrow, at Eight of Clock, in the Star-chamber.
Stay of Ships from Ireland.
That Mr. Mathewes shall write to the Mayor of Dartmouth, and give him Order to make Stay of those Barks and Freight, that are come from Ireland, until he shall receive farther Order from this House. And it is farther Ordered, That the Informations given to this House, concerning these Barks, arrived and put in at Dartmouth, be referred to the Committee for Irish Affairs.
Message from Lords.
Person sent for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Hen. Homer and Rich. Browne shall be sent for, as Delinquents, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, for contriving and printing a Speech, supposed to be made in this House by Mr. Browne, a Member thereof.
Mr. Perepointe reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the Lords Amendments of the Ordinance of the Forts and Militia of the Kingdom: Which were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.
Whereas, upon Mr. Greene's Report from the Committee for the Navy, it appears they have conferred with the Lord Admiral, and the Officers of the Navy, concerning setting out some of his Majesty's Ships, for Part of this Summer's Fleet; and have resolved of Fifteen of his Majesty's Ships to be employed accordingly, manned with Two thousand Nine Hundred and Seventy Men, for Eight Months Service; and have farther treated for several Merchant Ships here about London; as also at Bristoll; which they have also resolved, to the Number of Twenty-three Ships, to be employed in the said Service: It is this Day Ordered, That the aforesaid Number, as well of his Majesty's Ships, as of the said Merchants, shall be employed as this Summer's Fleet, for the Space of Eight Months, for the Defence of the Narrow Seas, and of his Majesty's Kingdoms of England and Ireland; and that the Committee of the Navy do farther confer with the Lord Admiral, for the speedy Setting out of this Fleet; and to appoint the issuing out of Monies for the said Service, from time to time, as Occasion shall require: And to do such farther Things as shall be for the speedy Advancement of the said Service; and to give an Account thereof to the House.
Farmers of Customs, &c.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Sum of Ten thousand Two hundred forty-eight Pounds Six Shillings and Nine-pence, charged on the Dividend of the Petty Farms, for the first Seven Years of his Majesty's Reign, to be paid unto the Creditors of the Officers of the Ordnance, (the Assignees of the Earl of Midd') shall be charged on the said Earl of Midd', by that Bill.
Ordered, That those Merchants, or other Persons, that have received any Monies from the Customers, by way of Composition for Injuries done unto them by the said Customers, and of which they have formerly complained to this House, shall acquaint this House, what Sums of Money, or other Satisfaction, for Composition, they have received, by this Day Sevennight.
Contribution for Ireland.
Rex, &c. Dilectis & fidelibus nostris. A. B. &c. Salutem. Sciatis quod assignavimus vos, et aliquos tres vel plures vestrum, Commissionarios nostros, ad omnia et singula faciend', performan', exequend' et peragend', in Com' nostro B. ad vos pertinen', content' et specifical' in quodam Actu Parliamenti apud Civitat' Westm' modo tent' nup' edit', intitulat', An Act for a speedy Contribution and Loan, towards the Relief of his Majesty's distressed Subjects, of the Kingdom of Ireland; secundum vim, formam, effectum, et veram Intentionem ejusdem Actus. In cujus, &c.
They were again called in: And Mr. Speaker told them, in the Name of the House, "The House had read your Petition, and do find in it a great deal of Affection and Zeal to the King and Commonwealth; for which they return you Thanks: For that Particular concerning your Arms, they will take it further into Consideration, in due Time; but yet, have commanded me to let you know, that heretofore Information being given to this House, that your Arms were taken from you upon the last Expedition into the North, they did make it known to the Lords: And both Houses did join to move his Majesty, to have as many Arms restored unto you, as were taken from you: But, in regard there is so great Use of Arms for Ireland, it is likely to be the Cause they are not not restored unto you: For Coat and Conduct Money which remains in several Collectors Hands, in your County, the House hath made a general Order, That all the Coat and Conduct Money remaining in the Hands of any Person whatsoever, in any County, shall be employed for the Buying of Arms and Ammunition for the Defence of those Places; the County declaring their Consent thereunto.
Kent Petition to Lords.
They were again called in: And Mr. Speaker told them, "That this House does approve of this Petition: They have a great Sense, not only of your Expression to the Commonwealth in general, but of Respect and Affection to this House in particular: They have observed so much Judgment and Discretion in your Delivery of it Here, that they doubt not of your performing the like There; and therefore, for the Manner of your Delivery of it, they leave you to yourselves."
Bishops Temporal Jurisdiction.
The great and general Sufferings of the Kingdom, by the Clergy's Exercising of secular Jurisdiction; - and the People's taking Notice of the Bishops making a Party in the Lords House; whereof they have of late expressed so great a Sense, by the many and earnest Petitions to both Houses, from many Parts of this Kingdom: - As it is the Opinion of the Parliament, That there cannot Satisfaction be given either to their just Desires, or the heavy Grievances which they suffer under, without the speedy Passing of this Bill.
2. The great Contentment, which the Passing of this Bill, in both Houses, hath given to all Sorts of People; the Delay whereof, by his Majesty, will exceedingly lessen that Contentment, and turn into as great Discouragement.
3. The speedy Passing of this Bill being of so great Importance, would be to the Lords and Commons a comfortable Pledge of his Majesty's gracious Intentions to concur with them in their subsequent Desires, which they are preparing to present to his Majesty, as the Cures of those great Evils and Miseries which this Kingdom now groans under.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does assent to these Reasons; and does order, that they shall be offered to the Lords at a Conference; and the Lords desired to join with this House in presenting them to his Majesty.
Sir Walter Erle carried up to the Lords the Bill for Pressing of Soldiers, returned from the Lords with some Amendments; the which Amendments were assented unto by this House, and the Bill amended accordingly.
Lord Falkland's publishing Proceedings.
Serjeant Wilde reports from the Committee appointed to st at Merchant Taylors Hall, that there was brought unto that Committee a Copy of a Letter written from the Lord Falkland to the Sheriff of Hantshire, dated January the Twenty-fifth, importing a Command he had received, to send down Fifty Copies apiece.
Mr. Hollis, Mr. Fines, Mr. Selden, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Pierrepoint, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Strode, Sir Edw. Partheriche, Mr. Whittlock, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Pym, Sir H. Vane, Mr. Crue, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Vaughn, Sir Ph. Stapilton;
This Committee is appointed to examine the Matter of Fact of the Lord Falkland's, a Member of this House sending down Messages and other Matters of Parliament, to be published; and to report their Opinions thereupon: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c. And are to meet To-morrow, at Eight of Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards.
Provided always, and be it Enacted and Declared, That all and every Collector or Collectors of the several Counties of Yorkeshire, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Northumberland, the County Palatine of Durham, the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne, the City of Durham, Nottingham, the County and Town of Nottingham, the County Palatine of Chester, the County of the City of Chester, the County Palatine of Lancaster, Lincolneshire, the County and City of Lincolne, Darbyshire, Staffordshire, the County of the City of Lichefeild, the City of Yorke and County of the same, and the Town and County of Kingston upon Hull, shall pay all and every the Sums of Money by him or them collected or received, by Virtue of this Act, to the Lord Mayor of the City of Yorke for the Time being, and to Thomas Hodgeson, Hen. Thompson, and William Scott, of the said City, at the Chamber in the said City of Yorke; for and towards the Payment of Billet-money due and owing to the several Inhabitants of Yorkshire, and the Counties adjacent, for the Billetting of his Majesty's Army; as also for and towards the Payment of such Monies as are due and owing by the Parliament, to the Counties of Durham and Northumberland, and the City of Durham, and Town of Newcastle upon Tyne; any thing in this present Act to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding.
Bp. of Durham.
The Lords have returned this Paper concerning the Forts and Militia of the Kingdom, and they have agreed; only they have struck out the Words "Lords and Commons" in the Clause of the Penalty of those that shall not obey.