House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 07 May 1642

Pages 562-564

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 7 Maii, 1642.


Leave of Absence.

ORDERED, That Sir Jo. Bamfeild shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Trial of Judge Barkley, &c.

Upon Mr. Nicholas' Report from the Committee appointed to consider of the Managing of the Evidence at the Trial of Judge Barkley;

It is this Day Ordered, That the Lords be moved, that a convenient Place may be appointed in their Lordships House, for the Members of this House that are to manage the Trial, and for the Witnesses to be present at the Trial, of Judge Berkley; and that their Lordships will appoint the Lord Chief Baron, Baron Trever, and Judge Crawley, to give their Attendance at that Time, to be examined as Witnesses: And that their Lordships will also appoint a speedy Time for the Trial of the Lord Chief Justice Bramston, after the Trial of Judge Barkley is over, in regard the Witnesses against the One are material Witnesses against the Other, and do live far off in the Country, and will be put to a double Trouble, if not now dispatched: And also to appoint a speedy Day for the Trial of the rest of the Judges impeached.

And Mr. Perepointe is to go up with this Message.

Warrant to Lucy.

Ordered, That Mr. Lucas Lucy shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to transport himself and One Horse into France.

Criplegate Petition.

The humble Petition of the Parishioners of the Parish of St. Giles, Criplegate, London, read.

Ordered, That That Petition, and the Petition of the Inhabitants of St. Giles, Criplegate, and the Certificate of the Alderman and Common-council-men of that Ward, be referred to the Committee for scandalous Ministers: And they are to meet on Monday next, at Two of the Clock, in the Star-chamber.

Buckinghum Militia.

Ordered, That all that Money that is now remaining in the several Collectors Hands, of the Loan-money raised in the County of Bucks about Sixteen Years since, be called in, and employed towards the Militia of that County; the Body of the said County having declared their Consent and Desire that it may be so employed.

Ordinary at Chathum.

The humble Petition of the Ordinary employed in his Majesty's Navy at Chatiham, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Consideration of this Petition be referred to the Committee for the Navy.

Ashe's Petition.

The humble Petition of Francis Ashe was this Day referred to the Committee for the Navy: Who are desired forthwith to take Consideration hereof.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Pierrepointe is likewise appointed to carry up the Order to be sent to Sir Jo. Hotham, concerning the Removing the Magazine; and to desire their Lordships Concurrence herein: And likewise to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Removing the Magazine at Monmouth; and other Matters of great Importance.

Benion's Fine.

A Draught of a Petition from the Lords and Commons to his Majesty, concerning the Disposal of the Fine imposed upon Benion, sentenced by Parliament, was read: But there being a Bill brought in to the same Purpose, the Petition was laid aside.

Disposal of Fines.

1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act, that all Fines imposed by this Parliament, upon any Persons that shall be impeached, shall be employed towards the Irish War, or other publick Uses.

2da vice lecta est Billa pradicta; and, upon Question. committed unto Mr. Pym, Sir Arth. Hasetrig, Sir Guy Palmes, Mr. Holland, Mr. Waller, * Peard, * Grimston, * Reynolds, * Rolle, Sir Jo. Potts, Sir Ro. Coke, Mr. Young, Mr. Cage, Mr. Whistler, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Hill, Sir Edm. Mountfort, Sir H. Ludlowe, Mr. White, Sir Tho. Smyth, Mr. Noble. Sir Robert Crane: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Starchamber.

Payment to Norrice.

Ordered, That it shall be referred to the Commissioners for the Irish Affairs, to give Order for the Payment of One thousand Four hundred Pounds, laid out for the Buying of Linen for Shirts for the Soldiers in Ireland, by Tobias Norrice of Dublyn, Merchant, according to the Certificate sent from the Lords Justices of Ireland, to that Purpose.

Londonderry Garison.

Resolved, upon the Question, That for the Guard and Defence of the City of Londonderry, a Garison may be settled there: And that Four hundred Men be taken of those of the English Nation, that are in or near the said City and Parts adjacent, and put into Four Companies, and added to the old Company there, now commanded by Sir Jo. Vaughan; which Company is to be made up a full Hundred: And that Sir Tho. Staples Knight and Baronet, Mr. Tho. Newberry, Captain Tristram Beresford, and Captain Jesper Hartwell, be recommended to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, to be Captains of these Four new Companies.

Conference-Message from the King.

A Message from the Lords by Serjeant Finche and Serjeant Glanvile;

The Lords desire a present Conference by Committees of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, touching a Message that they have this Day received from his Majesty of very high Consequence.

Answer returned by the same Messengers: That this House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and resolve to give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Holles, Mr. Pym, Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Glyn, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Proceedings against Cowley.

A Letter from the Lord Deyncourt, Mr. Woodroofe, Mr. Ashenhurst, and Mr. Clerke, Justices of Peace for the County of Derby, and directed to Mr. Speaker, was read; as also the Examination of Two Witnesses, against James Cowley of Brampton, accused for Speaking of very dangerous Words, was read: And

It is Ordered, That Mr. Allestree do write his Letter, and return Thanks to the Lord Deyncourt, and the rest aforenamed, for their Care herein: And that the said Cowley be speedily proceeded against according to Law.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Pierrepoint to the Order concerning Hull; they will provide a convenient Place in their own House; and will appoint a short Time for the Trial of the rest of the Judges; and do agree to a present Conference concerning the Magazine at Monmouth, &c.


A Message from the Lords by J. Foster and J. Heath;

The Lords desire, that the Committee spoken of at this last Conference, may meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Message concerning Hull.

Mr. Pym brings from the Conference a Letter from his Majesty, and a Message inclosed, concerning the Declaration of both Houses, touching Sir Jo. Hotham's Proceedings at Hull: The which were read: And then Mr. Pym informed, That the Lords had appointed a Committee of Twelve, to take Consideration of this Message; and desired that this House would appoint a Committee of a proportionable Number.

Mr. Hollis reports, that the Earl of Essex said at this Conference, That the Lords observed these Messages from the King go higher and higher; and do believe the King to be of that Goodness, that they came not from himself, But from such as are Incendiaries, and that endeavour to raise a Division between the King and Parliament: That, on this Day Sevennight, they had moved us, at a Conference, to name those evil Counsellors; and did now press it again; and that the Lords are ready to join with us in it; and do lay it at our Doors; the Commoners being the representative Body of the Kingdom, and were most concerned in it.

Resolved, upon the Question, That a Committee shall be appointed to meet with a proportionable Number of the Lords, to take into Consideration this Message.

Ordered, That the first Four-and-twenty of the Committee appointed Yesterday to meet with the Committee of the Lords, concerning the Letter from Marquis Herts, shall be the Committee appointed to meet with the Committee of the Lords this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Painted Chamber, to take into Consideration this Message from his Majesty: And Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, who was nominated of the former Committee, being now out of Town, it is Ordered, That Mr. Glyn be nominated in his stead.

Lords will sit.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Ro. Riche and Dr. Littleton;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, that they intend to sit this Afternoon, at Two of Clock.

Evil Counsellors.

Ordered, That on Monday Morning next, the House shall nominate such as they judge to be evil Counsellors.

Message to Lords.

Sir Wm. Lewes is appointed to go to the Lords, so soon as they are sat, to acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to nominate a Committee, as was desired at the last Conference.


Ordered, That the Commission to be granted to the Adventurers for additional Forces by Sea be read, at the first Sitting of the House, this Afternoon.

Bristol Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Bristoll be read this Afternoon.

House to meet.

Ordered, That the House meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock.

Post Meridiem.

Adventurers, &c.

A DRAUGHT of a Commission to be granted to the Adventurers of additional Forces by Sea, which was Yesterday read, and committed; and now reported; and read again; and, by Vote, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords by Mr. Reynolds. He likewise acquainted the Lords, That the Committee appointed by this House to meet with the Committee of the Lords, concerning the King's Message, will give their Lordships Meeting, as is desired.

Message from the King.

The Message from his Majesty, this Day delivered at a Conference with the Lords, was now again read.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Reynolds brings Answer, That he had delivered the Draught of the Commission to be granted to the Adventurers for additional Forces by Sea; and had likewise acquainted them, That this House had appointed a Committee, as was desired by the Lords at the last Conference.

Exceptions to a Member's Words.

Some Exceptions were taken at Words spoken by Sir H. Ludlow: He explained himself, and withdrew: And the House fell upon the Debate of the Words.-

Resolution on King's Message.

Resolved, upon the Question, That he that contrived this Message is one of the malignant Party, and one that endeavours to set Division between the King and his Parliament.-

A Member reprimanded.

Sir H. Ludlow was called to his Place: And there Mr. Speaker told him, that the Words which he spake, were Words that had an Aspect towards the King; and, when Words fall from him, that may reflect upon his Sacred Person, he ought to weigh them, that they may be accompanied with that Duty which is due from a loyal Subject to so Gracious a Sovereign.