House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 02 July 1642

Pages 648-649

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 2 Julii, 1642.


Propositions to the King.

THE House proceeded to the Consideration of the Nineteen Propositions of both Houses; and his Majesty's Answer unto them: And accordingly the Ninth Proposition, concerning the Militia, was read.

Book set forth by the King.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Ro. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a Book which they have received, set forth by the King, concerning the Raising of Money and Horses.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall presently go to the Conference: And, at the Return, presently resume the Consideration of this Proposition concerning the Militia.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and has resolved to give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Holles, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Fienis, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Warrant to Beckwith.

Ordered, That Mathew and Wm. Beckwith shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to travel beyond the Sea.

Arms to Leicester.

Ordered, That the Lord Gray shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to transport Forty Arms to Leicester.

Leave of Absence.

Sir James Thinne has Leave to go into the Country.

King's Declaration concerning Levies.

Mr. Hollis reports, That the Occasion of the Conference was a Book lately set forth, intituled, His Majesty's Declaration concerning Levies: In Answer to a printed Paper, intituled, A New Declaration of the Lords and Commons in Parliament, of the 21th of June, 1642, in Answer to his Majesty's Letter, dated the 14th of June, and sent to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Sheriffs, of the City of London.

Then the Lords offered their Opinion and Desires herein; viz.

"The Lords desire you to consider into what Condition all those Persons are brought into, who have obeyed the Orders and Commands of the Parliament: This Declaration will give you a clear View of it."

"We shall desire the House of Commons may so take it to Heart, that there may be a speedy Course taken by both Houses, to provide for the Safety of the Sitting of the Parliament, and the Lives of the Members thereof, and of all those who have obeyed their Commands."

Lord Lieut. of Buckingham.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you this Ordinance concerning the Nominating of a Lieutenant for the County of Bucks: And that they have agreed with this House; and have put in the Name of the Lord Wharton.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House does assent to the Putting in of the Name of the Lord Wharton, to be Lord Lieutenant of the County of Bucks.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House doth agree to this Ordinance concerning the Making of the Lord Wharton Lieutenant of the County of Bucks.


Resolved, upon the Question, That this House shall insist upon this Ninth Proposition concerning the Militia.

Scotch Army.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords have received from the Commissioners concerning the Scottish Army, a Proposition which concerns the Disbanding of that Army: The Lords conceive this to be a Matter that concerns Money; and therefore more proper to be first considered of here; and do abstain from taking it into farther Consideration, till this House has taken some Resolution.

The Resolution was in hæc verba; viz.

It is agreed that the Scottish Army shall receive their Discharge from the King and the Parliament of England, or from such Persons as shall be appointed and authorized by both Houses of Parliament.

The farther Debate hereof was respited till Monday Morning.