House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 17 September 1642

Pages 770-771

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 17 Septembris, 1642.


Prisoner discharged.

UPON the humble Petition of Ellis Coleman of Ipswich, committed to the King's Bench, for Words he spoke against the Parliament;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That the said Ellis Coleman be forthwith discharged from any farther Imprisonment.

Letter to be printed.

A Letter from Sir Edw. Nicholas, Secretary of State, of the 15th of September, from Derby, directed to Sir Wm. Boswell, his Majesty's Resident with the States of the United Provinces, was read; and ordered to be printed.

Letter from E. of Essex, &c.

There was a Letter from the Earl of Essex read; an Information, of the 14th of September, signed by Joshua Hill; and an Information, signed by Augustin Harper, of the 9th of September; were all read; and ordered to be referred to Mr. Glyn, to take Order for the Printing of them: And he is to make some Observations upon Secretary Nicholas his Letter; and to set some Mark upon it, to shew the Falsity of it: The first Part of the Earl of Essex his Letter is ordered to be printed.

These Particulars were all delivered to Mr. Glyn, except the Earl of Essex his Letter, which came not to my Hands, but remains still with Mr. Pym.

Money to Sherborne Committee.

An Ordinance to direct the Treasurer at Wars for the Army under the Command of the Earl of Essex, out of the Monies that come in from the Merchant Adventure.., to send Six thousand odd Pounds to the Committee at Sherborne, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Petition to the King.

According to the Order of Yesterday, the House fell into Debate of the Heads of the Petition to be presented by my Lord General to his Majesty.

Resolved, upon the Question, That One Head of the Prayer of the Petition shall be, That his Majesty will be pleased to come to his Parliament.

The Question being ..., Whether there should be any Mention in the Prayer of the Petition, concerning the Delivery of Delinquents to the Justice of Parliament;

It passed with the Negative.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Glyn is appointed to carry up to the Lords the Order concerning Plymouth; The Order for the Six thousand Five hundred Pounds to Sir Gilbert Gerard, out of the Merchant Strangers Monies; and likewise to desire their Lordships to expedite some Answer to the last Conference concerning the Affairs of Ireland.


A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Riche and Dr. Page;

The Lords do desire a free Conference, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, presently, in the Painted Chamber, concerning the Impeachments sent up from this House lately: And likewise concerning a Letter lately received from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That the Commons has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.-

Petition to the King, &c.

Mr. Holles, Mr. Pym, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Pierrepointe, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Solicitor, * Barrington, * Marten, Sir H. Vane junior, * Armyn, * Mildmay;

This Committee is to prepare a Petition to be sent to the Lord General, to be presented by him to his Majesty; and Heads for Instructions to be sent to the Lord General, upon the Heads agreed upon, and the Heads propounded to this House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two, in the Court of Wards.-


Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Pym, Mr. Pierrepointe, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Glyn brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Two Orders he carried up to them: And, as touching the Matter of the last Conference concerning the Affairs of Ireland, they will take it into speedy Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Complaint against Dixenwell.

Ordered, That the Complaint made against Mr. Dixenwell, by Mr. Findeall, be referred to Mr. Glyn, to his Examination.

Collectors of Money.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Lords and Commons appointed to receive an Account of such as are appointed Collectors and Receivers of the Monies that come in upon the Propositions, shall have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Glyn to peruse the Order formerly made for the Collectors and Receivers to receive the Monies that come in upon the Propositions; and to make such Additions as he shall think necessary for the more effectual Putting the said Order in Execution.


Mr. Serjeant Wilde reports the first Part of the Conference with the Lords (concerning the Impeachments of divers Delinquents) managed by the Earl of Holland.

Letter relating to the King, &c.

Mr. Pym reports the other Part of the Conference; and presented a Letter from the Earl of Leicester to the Earl of Northumberland, dated 9° Septembris: shewing his daily desiring of his Majesty to be gone for Ireland; but, after many Weeks Attendance there, and at Yorke, cannot obtain a Dispatch of his Majesty; and how that his Majesty had sent for the Draught-horses designed for Ireland, against his Lordship's Consent; and that he did importune his Majesty to forbear it, in regard of the bleeding Condition of Ireland.

A Letter from the Earl of Warwicke, of; the 15th of September, was read; shewing that the hath received Information, that the Queen is at Rotterdam, and is bound for Newcastle; and that she brings over with her divers Cavaliers: And desires speedy Directions from the Parliament, how to demean himself towards her Majesty, if in case his Ships meet with her Majesty.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Defence of the Kingdom, to send Instructions to the Earl of Warwicke, for his Carriage of this Business in the Staying of the Commanders, Officers, and Delinquents, that do come over with her Majesty into this Kingdom; and to prevent their Landing; and to seize upon all Arms and Ammunition that they bring over with them.


Replenishing the House with Members.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Great Seal, to consider of the Matter of the last Conference concerning the Proceeding against Delinquents that cannot be apprehended, as against Persons out of the Kingdom: And also to consider how the House may be replenished of their Members, notwithstanding Writs for a new Election, instead of those cast out of the House, cannot be sealed, as is usual: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Three . . Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber; and bring in the Report on Monday Morning.

Dep. Lieuts. of Kent.

Ordered, That the Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Kent shall have Power to name and appoint Commissaries for the Valuing of Horses and Arms brought in, or raised, for the Defence of the Kingdom, in the County of Kent: And this House doth Declare, That the Instructions given by the Deputy Lieutenants for that County is an Ordinance of Parliament.

Bailing Rainsforde.

Upon the humble Petition of Francis Rainsforde, Prisoner in Readinge Gaol, in the County of Berks, brought thither by one Deane, a Messenger, upon Suspicion of being a Priest.

It is this Day Ordered, That it be recommended to Sir Rich. Harrison, and the Mayor of Redding, Justices of Peace, or either of them, inhabiting at or near Readinge, to take Bail of the said Francis Wrenforde, to appear before this House, when he shall be thereunto required.

Person sent for in Custody.

Resolved, &c. That * Deane the Messenger shall be forthwith sent for, in safe Custody, to answer the Matters complained of against him, concerning the said Wrenforde; and the Staying and Seizing of a Horse belonging to the Parson of Havant.

Persons to attend.

Ordered, That Mr. Wadesworth, a Person appointed by this House for the Apprehending of Priests, shall be forthwith summoned to attend this House: And that the Constable at the Charter-house do likewise attend, to give Information concerning him.

Money for Army.

WHEREAS the Merchant Strangers residing within the City of London have promised to lend the Sum of Fifty thousand Pounds for One Year, for and towards the Relief and Preservation of the Realm of Ireland; to be repaid again out of the first and next Monies to be granted by Act of Parliament, with Consideration for the Forbearance thereof, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for a Year, according to an Order of the Commons House of Parliament, of the 8th of July, 1642: It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament, That the Chamberlain of the City of London shall pay to Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Treasurer of the Army under Command of the Earl of Essex, out of the said Fifty thousand Pounds, the Sum of Six thousand Five hundred Pounds, for the Affairs of this Kingdom: Which said Sum of Six thousand Five hundred Pounds the Lords and Commons do give the publick Faith to repay the same to the Chamberlain of the said City, out of such Monies as shall be received for the Affairs of this Kingdom, to be employed for the Relief of Ireland, as aforesaid: And this Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant to the Chamberlain to pay the same.