House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 05 November 1642

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 5 Novembris, 1642.


Preacher thanked.

SIR Wm. Massam is appointed to return Thanks to Mr. Newcomen, for his great Pains taken in the Sermon he this Day preached at St. Margarett's, at the Intreaty of this House; and to desire him forthwith to print his Sermon; and to give a Copy of it to the Committee for Religion; that, when they shall have Liberty to sit, they may consider by it, how to prepare and provide for the Extirpation of Popery.

That he may have the usual Privilege for Printing his Sermon.

Cart, &c. stayed.

Ordered, That the Cart, and Five Horses, and Two Saddle Naggs, of * *, may be stayed till this House take farther Order.


..Glyn, ..Wentworth, ..Bampfield, ..Mildmay, ..Strickland, ..Whittlock, ..Solicitor, ..Prideaux, ..Maynard, ..Whittacre;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are presently to withdraw, to consider how the Capuchin Friars may be speedily conveyed out of this Kingdom; and how the Convent may be demolished; and all the superstitious Materials, Pictures, or other such Matters, taken down, defaced, and demolished.

Restoring Money.

Ordered, That the One hundred Twenty-three Pounds Sixteen Shillings and Six Pence, taken from Owen Williams, a Drover at Northampton, and stayed in the Hands of the Committees, be forthwith delivered again unto him.

Banbury Custle.

Mr. Whitlock, Mr. Millington, Serjeant Wilde, are appointed to prepare an Order to enable the Lord Say to defend Canbury Castle, being his Inheritance; and to declare that if any Man shall attempt to pull down the said Castle, in Obedience to the Command of a Warrant under his Majesty's Hand to this Purpose, or any other Command whatsoever, that the said Lord Say shall have Recompence and Satisfaction out of their Estates.

Examination of Ratcliffe, &c.

Ordered, That the Examination and Consideration of Sir Alexander Ratcliffe, and his Two Servants, and of all Matters concerning them, be referred to the Committee for Informations.

Taking Horses.

Mr. Constantine presented an Order concerning the Preventing the ill-affected Army to take up Horses in the Counties where they pass: The which was read; and recommitted to the same Committee.

Letter from the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield, and Serjeant Glanvile;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a Letter that they have received from Secretary Nicholas, directed to the Speaker of their House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

This House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

..Glyn, ..Wilde, ..Pym, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Mr. Pym reported, That at this Conference that they had a Letter from his Majesty: The which was read at the Conference; and afterwards here.

And then Mr. Pym said, The Lord Gray told them, That the Lords had referred this Letter unto the Committee for the Defence of the Kingdom.

To the Right Honourable the Lord Gray, Speaker of the House of Peers, pro tempore.

"My Lord,

His Majesty hath commanded me, in Answer of your Lordships, of the Third present, to signify to you, that he always hath been, and is still, ready to receive the humble Petitions of either or both Houses of Parliament; and shall take Order, that a Committee of Lords and Commons may pass and repass to him, with the Petition of both Houses, as is desired; so as the said Committee consist of Persons that have not been, by his Majesty, either by Name declared Traitors; or otherwise, in some of his Declarations or Proclamations, excepted against by Name, with his Intention declared to proceed against them as Traitors; and so as the said Committee come not with more than Thirty Persons in their Company, and give Notice beforehand of their Coming: And, for the said Committee's better Security, his Majesty upon the Receipt of their Names, will give a Safe Conduct for them, under his Hand and Signet.

This being all I have in Command to deliver to your Lordship, I humbly rest, Your Lordship's most humble Servant, Redings, 4° Novembris, Edw. Nicholas." 1642.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth Protest and Declare against any such Message as This, as being absolutely against the Privilege of Parliament, to admit of any Exception to any Member of either House, for Carrying of any Message from the Parliament to his Majesty, being required by Direction of both or either Houses.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Letter from Secretary Nicholas, to the Speaker of the House of Peers, shall be referred to the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom: And they are to present their Resolutions what they think fit to be done upon it, this Afternoon at Four Clock.

House to sit.

Resolved, &c. That the House doth sit this Afternoon at Four Clock.

Post Meridiem

Prisoner released.

THE humble Petition of Roger Vivian, Merchant, committed Prisoner to Crosbye House, London, for refusing to lend upon the Propositions, in this Time of common and imminent Danger, being this Day read: And it being affirmed by divers Members of the House, that he is a Man well-affected, and willing to contribute;

It is Ordered, upon the Question, That the said Roger Vivian be forthwith released.

Prisoner discharged.

Upon the humble Petition of Wm. Baker, Citizen and Merchant of London, secured in Crosbye House.

It is Ordered, That the said Mr. Baker be forthwith discharged.

Warrant respited.

Ordered, That the Execution of the Warrant for sending for Sir Edw. Spencer, as a Delinquent, for not sending his Horse, upon the Warrants of the Deputy Lieutenants, be respited till Tuesday Morning.

Search for Arms, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Francklyn and Sir Wm. Roberts do forthwith take Care, that the House of Sir Edw. Spence's be searched for Ordnance, and Pieces of Artillery; and, if they shall find any, to seize them, and secure them: And likewise to take Notice what other Arms or Ammunition is in his House.

Seizing Ordnance.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Francklyn shall seize the Ordnance in the Military Yard in Westminster, and take them out of his Custody, where now they are; and dispose of them for the Service and Defence of these Parts.

King's Children.

Ordered, That Mr. Holland and Mr. Rous do prepare an Order, to injoin the Master and Council of the Court of Wards, to give Order to the Receiver of the said Court, to issue out to Mr. Holland Eight hundred Pounds, for the younger Children, of his Majesty's Monthly Assignment: And likewise Seven hundred Pounds to my Lord Say, which he had formerly disbursed for the King's Children.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Navy, to consider of setting forth Two Ships upon the Western Coasts, for Guard of those Coasts, against the Irish Rebels.

Committee to the King.

The Question was propounded, Whether this ensuing Question should be now put.

It passed with the Affirmative.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Names of those Four Gentlemen formerly nominated in this House, shall be sent unto his Majesty for a Safe Conduct.

Mr. Pym went up to the Lords to acquaint them; That this House had resolved, That the Names of these Four Gentlemen formerly named by this House, viz. Lord Wenman, Mr. Peirpoint, Sir Jo. Hippisley, and Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wiltes, should be sent unto his Majesty for a Safe Conduct; and to desire, that if they should resolve upon any in Their House, that they would take Care that the Names of the Members of both Houses might be forthwith sent away to his Majesty for a Safe Conduct.

House to meet.

Ordered, That the House meet To-morrow, at Eight of the Clock: And that Sir Thomas Barrington do move the Lords, that they would do the like, if it may stand with their Conveniency.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom be injoined to attend the House To-morrow at Eight of the Clock; to let the House know whether there be any urgent Occasion for the House to sit To-morrow; that otherwise the House may rise, and go to Church.

Defence of London, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Peter Wentworth and Mr. Holland do know of Serjeant Major Skippon, whether the Fortification and the Works made for the Defence of the Cities of London and Westminter be sufficient and good, and made according to his Directions.

Lords will sit.

Sir Tho. Barrington brings Answer, That the Lords will sit To-morrow at Eight.