House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 09 November 1642

Pages 840-842

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 9 Novembris, 1642.


Committee for Dispatches.

ORDERED, That Sir Jo. Young, Sir Tho. Moore, Mr. Rous, Mr. Bond, Mr. Rolle, Mr. Hanham, Mr. Rose, Mr. Ashe, Mr. Hill, be added to the Committee for Dispatches.

Prisoners in Crosby House, &c.

Ordered, That the Lord Mayor and the Sheriffs shall discharge none of those Citizens secured in Crosby House and Gresham College, but such as shall submit according to the Orders of Parliament; notwithstanding the Order of referring the Release of them to the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs made Yesterday.

Stay of Sir J. Digby.

Upon a Letter of the 7th of November, from the Committee at Northampton, concerning the Stay of Sir John Digby by them at Northampton;

It is Ordered, That the said Sir John Digby be secured there, till the House take farther Order.

Money raised in Yorke.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Hotham, Governor of the Town of Hull, shall receive such Monies as shall be raised upon the Propositions in the County of Yorke, and detain them in his Hands, until he shall receive farther Directions for the Issuing of them.

Lambeth House.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Propositions, to consider of making the Bishop of Canterbury's House at Lambeth, or some other Place, a Prison to secure Prisoners in.

Seditious Sermon.

Upon a Letter and Information of a seditious Sermon preached by Dr. Peake at the Cathedral at Canterbury, on the 5th of November;

Dr. Peake sent for.

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That the said Dr. Peake be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House; who is now in the Custody of the Officers at Canterbury.

Bishop of Canterbury's Rents.

Ordered, That Mr. Dobson, the Bishop of Canterbury's Receiver, do pay unto Mr. Holland the Monies already received by him, or to be received of the said Bishop's Rents and Revenues: And that the said Monies shall be employed for the Use of the King's Two youngest Children's Houshold: And that Mr. Holland be accountable for the said Monies, in such Manner as the House shall direct.

Imbezzling Stores, &c.

Ordered, That the Information concerning some Store of Ammunition imbezzled out of the Ship Providence, stayed in Lincolneshire, be referred to the Committee for the Navy: And likewise the Information concerning the Amitie of Newcastle.

Proceedings against Manwaring

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir H. Manwaring be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House.

Resolved, upon the *, That this House holds it not fit, That Sir H. Manwaring should any longer continue Master of the Corporation of the Trinity-house.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Corporation of the Trinity-house be injoined forthwith to make Election of a new Master of their Corporation: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired.

Securing Persons at Stepney.

Ordered, That the Lord Mayor and the Sheriffs of London and Middlesex be required, according to the former Orders of the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, to secure the Persons, and to disarm all those Gentlemen named in a List presented from the Committee of Lords and Commons appointed to receive the Subscriptions, and sent together with This; Inhabitants within the Parish of Stepney, notwithstanding that they live out of the Jurisdiction of the City.

Person to attend.

Ordered, That the Lord Baltinglasse be summoned forthwith to attend the House.

Raising Horse, &c.

Mr. Holles, Sir Ph. Stapleton, Mr. Long, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Whitlock, Sir F. Knollis, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Vassall, Sir H. Vane, Mr. Marten, Mr. Pierpointe, Mr. Grimston, Sir Jo. Corbett, Lord Gray, Mr. Maynard, Sir Wm. Constable, Sir H. Cholmeley, Sir Arth. Haselrig, Sir Jo. Meyrick;

This Committee, or any Four of them, is appointed to consider how a Body of Horse may be raised, besides that Body that is appointed to attend the Army already raised: And likewise to consider of any thing else, that they shall conceive necessary for the Safety of the Kingdom; and to present it to the House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two post meridiem, in the Court of Wards; and after to meet when and where they please.

Punishing Soldiers.

Mr. Holles presented from the Committee an Order concerning the Punishing of Soldiers in the Army: Which was read, and voted, and assented unto; and carried up by Mr. Holles.


Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Wild, Mr. Rigby, and Mr. Prideaux, do prepare an Order for the Indemnity of such Persons in and about the City of London, and all other Parts of the Kingdom, as have or shall underwrite to maintain any Men or Horse weekly for the Defence of the Kingdom and Parliament; and likewise to secure them such Monies as they shall advance in that Service.

Proceedings against Ratcliffe.

Upon the Report from the Committee appointed to receive the Examination of the Business concerning Sir Alexander Ratcliffe;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Alexander Ratcliffe is guilty of putting the Commission of Array in Execution.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Alexander Ratcliffe is guilty of abetting, aiding and assisting of the Earl of Derby, in the Action of the Siege of Manchester.

Resolved, upon the Question, * * * *

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Alexander Ratcliffe be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Tower, there to remain during the Pleasure of the House.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Three Horses, seized with Sir Alexander Ratcliffe, be sent to the Commissaries in London, to be employed in the Service of the Commonwealth.

Punishing Soldiers.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree in the Order concerning the Punishing of Soldiers in the Army under the Command of the Earl of Essex: And

It is Ordered, That it be printed forthwith.

Proceedings respecting Petition to the King.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Petition agreed upon, on Thursday last, by both Houses, to be sent to his Majesty by the Earl of Northumberland, &c. shall be sent to his Majesty.

Resolved, &c. That it shall be left to the Liberty of Sir John Evelyn to go with this Petition, with the Persons appointed to that End, if he shall see Cause.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords concerning these Votes: And that they be made acquainted with the Reasons inducing this House to these Votes; and that it was first moved by Sir John Evelyn himself: And to acquaint them, that to the end the Preparation be not lessened thereby for our Defence, that a Proclamation be made this Afternoon, in and about the City, requiring the Soldiers, upon Pain of Death, to repair to their Colours To-morrow Morning at Eight Clock: And that the Lord General draw them out, for the Defence of the Parliament and City: And to desire the Lords to join with this House, in desiring the Lord Mayor to call a Common Hall To-morrow Morning: And that a Declaration be made, to satisfy the City of the Alteration of the Votes passed on Monday; and that this Way they have now agreed upon is for Settling of Matters by Peace, that the Guilt of any Blood that shall be spilt may not lie on their Consciences, having used all Endeavours: And likewise to declare, That if it do come to a Treaty, and that the King be persuaded not to yield to the Propositions made unto him for the Preservation of Religion and Liberty, That then both Houses will sacrifice their Lives and Fortunes in Defence thereof.

Sir Jo. Evelyn went up to the Lords, to desire this Conference.

Sir Jo. Evelyn brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to give a present Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Holles, Mr. Hampden, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Punishing Soldiers.

Whereas it is found, that great Inconveniences have ensued, for want of a strict and severe Discipline to have been observed in the Army, now raised by authority of the Parliament, under the Command of Robert Earl of Essex: And for that the Laws and Ordinances by him set forth, for the Government of the said Army, have not been put in due Execution: It is now Ordained and Declared, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That from henceforth the Officers and Soldiers of the said Army may not expect any further Forbearance of such Punishment, to be inflicted on them for any their Offence, as shall be due unto them by the said Laws and Ordinances; but that the Lord General may and ought to punish them by Death or otherwise, according to their Demerits.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Glanvill;

The Lords agreed to all the Three Votes sent up to them at this Conference: They likewise agree to send to the Lord Mayor to call a Common Hall, to meet this Afternoon, if possible; otherwise To-morrow Morning.

Committee to Common Hall.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have appointed Four of their Members, to meet with a proportionable Number of this House, to go to the City, to the Common Hall, to signify unto them the Matter of the last Votes, at the last Conference.

Mr. Pym, Sir Tho. Middleton, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Lord Ruthen, Sir Robert Pye, Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Vassal, and Mr. Wheeler, are appointed to go with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, into the City, to make known to the Common Hall, the Matter of the last Conference.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed a Committee of a proportionable Number to meet with a Committee of the Lords, to go into London, as is desired.

Reward to Soldiers.

Ordered, That all such Soldiers as have been constant in Service in the Army, under the Command of the Earl of Essex, and have not deserted that Service, and shall, upon Proclamation made, repair to their Colours at the Time appointed, or within One Hour after, shall have bestowed upon them, at the general Rendezvous, every Foot Soldier Half a Crown, and the Horse Soldiers Five Shillings apiece, over and above their Pay, as an Acknowledgment from this House of their good Service, and for their further Encouragement.

And it is farther Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of Kingdom do grant their Warrants to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, to issue out these Monies accordingly.