House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 21 November 1642

Pages 857-858

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, 21 Novembris, 1642.


Answer from Ld. General.

MR. Morley reports, That he and Mr. Darley had attended my Lord General, and acquainted him with the Order of the House, to prosecute the War with all Advantage: That his Lordship will take all the Care that may be, in following and observing the Directions of this House.

Letter to Ld. General.

Mr. Prideaux is appointed to prepare a Letter to be sent to my Lord General, concerning * * * *.

Defence of Sussex.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Michael Levesey be desired to march with the Forces he has into Sussex, for the Defence of that County.

Raising Forces.

Ordered, That Mr. Hill, Mr. Morley, Mr. Stapeley, Mr. Browne, Sir Tho. Parker, Sir Tho. Pelham, do prepare a Commission and Instructions to be granted to Mr. Morley, Mr. Stapeley, Sir Tho. Parker, and Sir Tho. Pelham, for the Raising of Forces in the County of Sussex, to preserve the Peace of that County; and to consider of any thing else that shall be fitting and conducing to the Peace and Safety of that County.

Powder, &c. for Canterbury.

Resolved, That the City of Canterbury shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant, to transport unto that City Sixteen Barrels of Powder, Three hundred Pound of Match, Nine hundred Weight of Pistol and Musquet Bullets, Three hundred Weight of Bullets for Ordnance.

Persons committed.

Resolved, upon * *, That [a] the several Gentlemen of Kent, brought up by Sir Michael Levesey, as Persons disaffected to the Peace of that County, and of the Kingdom, all but Serjeant Finche, shall be forthwith committed Prisoners to Winchester House, there to remain during the Pleasure of the House: And that Sir Michael Levesey be forthwith discharged of them.

Serj. Finch.

Ordered, That Serjeant Finch in regard he is an Assistant to the House of Peers, be sent up to the Committee of Lords and Commons, to be disposed of by them.

Listing Horses.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Thirteen Horses of Mr. Nevill's brought out of Essex, be sent to the Commissaries of the Army under the Earl of Essex to be listed for the Service of the Commonwealth.

Resolved, That these Thirteen Horses shall be disposed of, Seven to Sir Arth. Heselrig, and Six to Sir Sam. Luke; who both have Warrants under my Lord General's Hand to recruit their Troops.

Sir J. Evelyn.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Evelyn * * * *.

Proclamations not to be published.

Ordered, That neither the Sheriffs of London and Middlesex, shall publish the Proclamations, intituled, "A Proclamation for the free and safe Passage of all "Persons * * * *

Sir M. Levesey.

Sir Michael Levesey was called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, told him, That * * * *.

Order respecting Sheriffs:

Ordered, That the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, the Six Clerks, and the Clerks of the Petty Bag, and every of them, and their Under Clerks, be required and injoined not to make out any Commission or Patent for electing of Sheriffs, or Dedimus potestatem for Swearing of Sheriffs, or Writs for Discharge to the old Sheriffs, until this House be first acquainted, and take farther Order herein.

Citizens Propositions.

The House being informed that divers Citizens, of good Quality, were at the Door; who desired to propound something to the House of great Consequence;

They were called in. Mr. Shute, a Merchant, in the Name of the rest, informed the House, That he came to speak from the most active, and the most religious Part of the City; to acquaint this House, that they understand that this House is upon an Accommodation; which grieves their Hearts, considering what followed the last Treaty of Accommodation on Saturday was Sevennight last.

If the Accommodation go not on, then to consider how Monies may be raised, in some such Sort as that the whole Charge may not lie upon the Good and Godly Party; but that the Malignant Party may be enforced to bear their Share fully according to their Abilities.

A Third Thing which troubles them, is, an Imputation Sir Tho. Wilford and his Son, Mr. Geo. Chute, Mr. cast upon the Godly Part of the City, by the Malignant Party, That we desire an independent Government may be set up in the Church; which they desire may be wiped off.

Mr. Vassall and Sir Peter Wentworth are appointed to go forth to the Citizens; to acquaint them, that this House takes well their Propositions, and their Affections expressed in them.

King's Message considered.

His Majesty's Message to both Houses, on Saturday last, was read.

And the Question being put, Whether the House should be forthwith resolved into a Committee, to take it into Consideration;

The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Lord Cranborne, Tellers for the Yea, 75.
Mr. Pierpointe,
Mr. Glyn, Tellers for the Noe, 65.
Mr. Strode,

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House be forthwith resolved into a Committee, to take his Majesty's last Message to both Houses into Debate and Consideration.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Ellis called to the Chair.

And the Committee fell into the Debate of his Majesty's Message.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair: And

Upon Mr. Ellis his Report from the Grand Committee;

It was, by the House, Resolved, upon the Question, That in this Answer to his Majesty's Message, the House shall desire the King to return to his Parliament.

The Question being propounded, Whether the House should be resolved into a Committee, To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock, to resume this Debate concerning an Answer to his Majesty's late Message;

The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yea, 67.
Mr. Pierrepointe,
H. Mildmay, Tellers for the Noe, 66.
Sir H. Vane,

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall be resolved into a Committee, To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock, to resume this Debate concerning an Answer to his Majesty's late Message.


  • a. The Names referred to in the Margin are, "Sir Anth. Ager, Sir Jo.Fotherby, Sir Tho. Wilford and his Son, Mr. Geo. Chute, Mr. Anth. Hamond,Dr. Blechenden, Dr. Horsmanden, Mr. Hen. Deering, Mr. Paynter, Mr. Smyth.