House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 23 November 1642

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 23 Novembris, 1642.


Prisoner discharged.

UPON the humble Petition of George Gildon, Under Sheriff of Surrey, now a Prisoner in the Compter of Southwarke;

It is Ordered, That he be forthwith discharged from any farther Imprisonment.

Trelawney's Petition.

The humble Petition of Mr. Robert Trelawny, of Plymouth, was this Day read, for his Release; but nothing done upon it.

Trelawney committed.

Ordered, That Mr. Robert Trelawney be forthwith committed Prisoner to Winchester House, there to remain during the Pleasure of the House.

Earl of Warwick surrenders his Commission.

Mr. Glyn reports the Conference Yesterday with the Lords:

That the Earl of Warwicke did declare his Acknowledgment of the great Honour both Houses had done him, in appointing him General of the Forces raised in and about London: That he conceives the Charge of the Commonwealth is such, that it would be much to their Disadvantage, to bring upon themselves a double Charge: That his Lifeguard will stand the Commonwealth in Two thousand Pounds in Raising, and Two thousand Pounds a Month, besides other Charges: That he did This not out of any Indisposition to the Service, but merely out of a provident Care for the Commonwealth; and therefore did lay down his Commission: Which the Lords did give way unto; and desired the House of Commons Consent thereunto.

Respited, till the Earl of Warwick be first spoken with.

Mr. Strode, Mr. Long, to speak.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth accept of the Surrender of the Earl of Warwick his Commission: And hat Thanks be returned to his Lordship.

Commission of Assessment.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, That the several Commissioners in the several Counties of this Kingdom, upon the Assessing and Payment of the first Payment upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds, have Power by That Commission, to assess the Payment of the Second Payment, upon the said Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds; and doth Order, That they be injoined to do the same accordingly.

Condition of Munster.

A Letter from the Lord Inchequin, and the Council of War in Munster, of the 25° of October; a Letter from the Lord Inchequin, of the 11th of November; a Letter from the Earl of Thomond, of the last of August; and a Petition from Sir Hardes Waller; all expressing the miserable Condition of the Province of Munster, and the Army there.

Abuse in transporting Money.

A Letter from the Committee in Ireland, of the Second of November, 1542.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to inquire after the Abuse informed to be committed in the Transport of the Monies into Ireland; and to call before them Mr. Henly, and the Agents of Mr. Loftus: And that Mr. Glyn, and Mr. Jennour be added to this Committee, as to this Business.

Provisions for Ireland.

That the speedy Supply of Corn and Victuals to be immediately sent into Munster, be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland; and likewise to consider to advance Monies to the Commissaries for Victuals, that the Provisions they have in their Stores may be speedily sent away into Ireland. They are likewise to prepare Orders to be sent to Barnstaple and Exon, for the Sending of Provisions from thence.


A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. *

The Lords have adjourned till Four of Clock this Afternoon; and they desire this House would do the like, if it may stand with their Conveniency.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That the House has resolved to sit this Afternoon, at Four of Clock.

City Subscriptions.

Mr. Jennour, Mr. Spurstoe, Mr. Ashe, are appointed to prepare an Order, to be added to the Order to supply the Defects of the Order to be sent into the several Wards concerning the Bringing in of Monies upon the Subscriptions.

The which Order Mr. Marten presented from the Committee.

It is Ordered, by the and Commons, assembled in Parliament, that the Master or Wardens of the Company of Mercers do summon the Assistants and Livery of the said Company as they shall think fit, or usually call to their Quarter Courts, to meet at their Hall on Saturday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon: there to attend and receive the farther Pleasure and Direction of both Houses of Parliament.

The very like Order was made for all the other Companies.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Whereas the House has been informed that divers Persons in the several Wards have subscribed several Sums, and have not brought in their Monies according to their Subscriptions: It is Ordered, That Mr. Jennour, Mr. Spurstoe, and Mr. Ashe, do forthwith repair to my Lord Mayor; and desire him to send to the particular Persons that went through the several Wards, to bring in their Books; and, upon Perusal of them, to send to all such particular Men as have not paid in their Monies according to their Subscriptions, and to require them, that they forthwith pay in their Monies, in regard the Necessities are present and urgent. That the Lord Mayor be desired to summon a Common Hall, to meet on Friday next, at Three post meridiem: And that some Members of both Houses may be appointed to repair thither; to express the great Necessities and Danger that hangs over the City, and the whole Kingdom, at this present; and to propound unto them the Loan of the Plate in their several Halls, towards the Supply of the great Occasion.

Lord Ruthen to move the Lords for their Concurrence in this Order.

Mr. Rolle is appointed to go to the Lord Mayor, to desire him to summon a Common Hall accordingly.

Weekly Subscriptions, &c.

Mr. Whittlock, Sir H. Vane, Sir H. Mildmay, or either of them, are appointed to confer with the Committee for the Militia in London, to know in what State the weekly Subscriptions for Maintaining of Men, and the general Subscriptions for setting forth a Body of Horse now stands; and to report it to the House To-morrow Morning.

Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Whitlock, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Browne, Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Long, Mr. Hill, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Hill;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are to consider of this Order presented for the Assessing of Monies.

Mr. Browne is especially to take Care of this Order; And they are to bring it in To-morrow Morning: And they are to consider how the like Order may be made for Westminster, and the Suburbs and Places adjacent.

General Assess.

Ordered, That on Friday Morning next, the House shall take into Consideration a general Assess to be laid throughout the whole Kingdom, for the Supply of the great Occasions of England and Ireland.

Post Meridiem

Refusals to pay Assessment.

ORDERED, That it be referred to the Committee for Dispatches, to receive the Names of all such Persons, in.. about Westminster and Middlesex, as are returned, for refusing to pay their Proportion of the Monies assessed, for the Setting up of Courts of Guard, Posts, and Chains, and for defraying the Charges for guarding and watching; and to consider of some Course how these Monies may be levied on the Inhabitants Estates, that those that have disbursed the Monies for setting them up, may be repaid: And that they have Power to restrain such Persons, concerning this Matter, as they shall find Cause for.

Message to Ld. General.

Ordered, That Sir Ar. Haselrigg do move the Lord General, from this House, not to omit any Opportunity of Advantage, in disposing of his Army for the Preservation of the Peace of the Kingdom, and keeping the People from being plundered; and particularly to have a Care of Farnham Castle: And to acquaint him, that Care shall be taken that Money shall follow him with all convenient Speed.

Leave of Absence, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Drake shall have Leave to go into the Country; and shall have the Protection of this House for his Safeguard.

Affairs at Chichester.

A Letter from Sussex, signed by Edw. Higgons, Wm. Cawley, and Hen. Chitty, directed to Mr. Speaker, was read; signifying that the new Sheriff had possessed himself of the City of Chichester, and have put a Garrison into that City, and seized on the Ordnance and Ammunition there; and that Sir Wm. Morley, and others, Members of the House, and other Gentlemen in that County, have been assisting to the said Sheriff herein, and in putting in Execution the Commission of Array.

Members disabled to sit.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Wm. Morley, Sir Tho. Bowyer, Mr. Mayo, and Mr. Leeds, shall be disabled for being any longer Members of this House: And that Mr. Speaker shall grant his Warrant for Writs for Elections of new Members in their Stead.

Morley's Impeachment.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Wm. Morley, shall be impeached by this House: And that Mr. Glyn and Mr. Prideaux do draw the Impeachment, and present it to the House.

Persons sent for.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Wm. Morley, Sir Tho. Bowyer, Mr. Mayo and Mr. Leeds, shall be forthwith sent for, as Delinquents.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Fordc, High Sheriff of the County of Sussex, Sir John Morley, Sir Edw. Bishopp, Robert Anderson Counsellor at Law, Nico. Wolfe, Fra. Shallett, Tho. Gunter, Jo. Apsley, Mr. Rishton, Fra Drury, Geo. Gunter, Philip King, and John King, Mr. Heath, and Edw. Osborne, shall be forthwith sent for, as Delinquents.

Ship Amitie.

Upon Mr. Green's Report from the Committee for the Navy;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That the Beer, Wine, and Spicery, in the Ship Amitie, bound for Newcastle, shall be delivered to the several Owners thereof.

And further Resolved, &c. That the One hundred Quarters of Wheat, laden aboard the Ship Amitie, bound for Newcastle, shall be disposed of for the Service and Relief of the Province of Munster: And that the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland do take Care to convey the same speedily into Ireland: And further Ordered, That Twelve Pounds shall be paid, by the Committee of Adventures for Ireland, to the Master of the Ship, for his Demurrage, in staying with the Corn.

Ordered, That the Candles seized likewise in the said Ship, shall be delivered to the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, to be employed for the Service of the House.

Anfwer to King's Message.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Glanvile;

The Lords desire a present Conference in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, presently, by Committees of both Houses, concerning an Answer to be sent to his Majesty's late Message.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.


Mr. Holles, Mr. Pymme, Sir Henry Vane junior, and Mr. Glyn, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Person committed.

Ordered, That Sir John Digby be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Fleet, there to remain during the Pleasure of the House.

Anfwer to King's Message.

Mr. Pym reports from the Conference; That the Lord of Holland presented an Answer, which their Lordships thought fit to be presented to his Majesty, as an Answer to his Majesty's late Message: Which was read in hæc verba.

May it please Your Majesty,

IT is humbly desired by both Houses of Parliament, that Your Majesty will be pleased to return to Your Parliament, with Your Royal, not Your Martial Attendance, to the end that Religion, Laws, and Liberties, may be settled and secured by their Advice; finding by a late and sad Accident, that Your Majesty is invironed by some such Counsellors as do rather persuade a desperate Division, than a Joining and a good Agreement with Your Parliament and People: And we shall be ready to give Your Majesty Assurances of such Security as may be for Your Honour, and the Safety of Your Royal Person; or else we shall, in convenient Time, consider of fit Propositions to present unto Your Majesty, such as may be for the Preservation of God's true Religion, Your Majesty's Honour, Safety, and Prosperity, and to the Peace and Happiness of this and Your other Kingdoms.

Resolved, &c. That the latter Part, beginning with the Words "or else," to the End, shall be left out.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth assent to the former Part, from the Beginning, to the Words "or else."

Message to Ld. General.

Ordered, That the Lords be moved at the next Conference to join with this House, to send to the Lord General my Lord of Essex, to desire him to go on with all Advantages in prosecuting the War.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Holles, and Mr. Solicitor, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Horses seized.

Ordered, That the Four Horses now stayed, of Sir Francis Inglefeild's, be seized, and listed for the Service of the Commonwealth, that then they shall be delivered unto Sir Arthur Haselrig, who has a Warrant under my Lord General's Hand, for recruiting his Troop.

Ordered, That the Horses of Mr. Halley of Brainford, seized for the Service of the Commonwealth, be delivered, One to Sir Arthur Haselrig, and One to Captain Antony Mildmay, who both have Warrants, under my Lord General's Hand, for recruiting their Troops.

Horses discharged.

Ordered, That Sir John Beurgoine's Three Horses, stayed by the general Order of both Houses, and listed by the Commissaries for the Service of the Commonwealth, be forthwith discharged: And that, if they be employed in the Service of the Commonwealth, that they send Three other Horses, that may supply their Turns; and that those may be immediately delivered to Sir John Beurgoyne, according to this Order.

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