House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 15 December 1642

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 15 Decembris, 1642.


Norfolk, &c. Association.

T HE Form of an Association to be annexed to the Instructions for the Association of the Counties of Norfolk, Suffolk, Herts, Essex, Cambridge, Isle of Elye, and County of the City of Norwich, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be annexed to the Association, and carried up to the Lords.

Tumults in London.

Ordered, That the Lord Mayor, and Sheriffs, and Justices of Peaces, do call a Sessions forthwith; and make Inquiry of the particular Offences committed at the late tumultuous Assemblies at Haberdashers Hall and Guildhall.

Recorder of the City.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth recommend Mr. Glyn to the Election of the City, to be Recorder of the City: And Sir Tho. Soame and Mr. Spurstoe are to recommend this Request of this House to the City.

Cholmeley's Loan, &c.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth promise to repay the Nineteen hundred Pounds they have this Day borrowed of Mr. Cholmeley, within Fourteen Days: And do farther Order, That the Residue of the Monies belonging unto him, and likewise the Plate, and Chest of Writings, now at Guildhall, in the Custody of the Treasurers for the Propositions, shall be restored unto him forthwith by the said Treasurers: And that the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom do grant their Warrants to the Treasurers for the Propositions, for the Repayment of the same at the Day.

Borlase's Loan.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth promise to repay the Two hundred Pounds they have this Day borrowed of Sir Jo. Borlase, at Six Months End.


The House went up to the Conference.

Deputy Lieutenants.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Sir Tho. Guibbon, Sir Rich. Barney Baronet, Sir Isaac Ashley Knight, Sir Tho. Hogan Knight, Jo. Cooke, Esquire, Ph. Beddingfield, Esquire, Robert Riche, Esquire, Robert Wood Esquire, Gregory Gaussell Esquire, Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Norfolk; Sir Miles Hobart Knight of the Bath, Deputy Lieutenant for Suffolk, Sir Tho. Woodhowse Knight and Baronet, Sir Jo. Holland, Baronet, Sir Jo. Potts Knight and Baronet, Sir Tho. Richardson Knight, Sir Edm. Montfort Knight, Samuel Smyth Esq;

Letters stayed in Kent.

Ordered, That Mr. Grimston and Sir Tho. Cheeke do acquaint the Earl of Warwicke with the Letter from Thirteen of the Deputy Lieutenants in Kent, signifying that they had stayed a Boy with a Portmanteau, with Letters in it, going from London to Dover in an unusual Manner by virtue of a Warrant, of a long Date); whereby much Prejudice may come to the Kingdom; which they thought fit to make Stay of, and to send the Boy and Letters to this House, to do therein as they shall think fit: Which the House taking into Consideration, do Order, That the Earl of Warwicke be desired to take Care that no Prejudice do come to the Kingdom by that Way of Carrying of Letters: And that the Boy be reproved for his saucy Carriage to the said Deputy Lieutenants; and be forthwith dismissed, with his Letters, to be conveyed according to the Direction of the Letters: And, lastly, Ordered, That Thanks be returned to the Deputy Lieutenants, for their great Care in this Particular.

Dragoons to Norfolke.

Ordered, That Licence be granted for One hundred Dragoons to be conveyed into Norfolke, to Sir Jo. Potts, for the Defence of that County.

Safeguard of Harwiche.

Ordered, That One hundred Pounds already contributed at Harwiche, and such other Sums as they shall contribute upon the Propositions, shall be employed for the Safeguard of that Town.

Collectors of Money.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Trenchard has the Chair, to consider of this Letter from Sir Clement Throckmorton; and likewise to consider of some Course to enable the Collectors of the Monies payable upon the Bills of Subsidies, Poll Money, Contribution, and Four hundred thousand Pounds, to pay in the Monies collected to the Treasurers at Guildhall, London.

Customs at Hull.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Navy do prepare an Order to enable Sir Jo. Hotham to receive the Customs of the Port of Hull, upon Account, to be employed for the Use of the Garison there, and the Occasions of the County: And that some Course may be taken, that the said Monies received by Sir Jo. Hotham, upon the Customs aforesaid, may be repaid to the Collectors of the Customs here, out of the Proposition Monies, to be employed for the Service of the Navy.

Lords to sit.

Sir Peter Wentworth went up to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile.

Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, That the Lords will sit awhile, as is desired.

Inland Letter Office.

Ordered, That the Matter of the late Conference concerning the Inland Letter Office, be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning next.

House to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Glanvile;

The Lords do desire this House to sit awhile, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House; in regard they have Matters of great Importance to communicate unto them.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That the House has resolved to sit, as is desired.

London Assessment.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Robert Riche, and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Ordinance for Taxing and Levying of Monies in the City of London, not exceeding the Twentieth Part.

Northampton, &c. Association.

Sir Wm. Armyn went up to the Lords, to desire that there might be a Conference, on the Part of this House, concerning the Matter of the Conference the other Day had, touching the Association of the Counties of Northampton, Leicestershire, &c.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.


Sir Wm. Armyn brings Answer, That the Lords do consent to that Part of the Conference desired by this House.

Mr. Corbett, Sir H. Mildmay, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Browne, are appointed Managers and Reporters of this Conference.

I. of Wight Garisons, &c.

WHEREAS the Sum of Seven hundred and Fifty Pounds, collected upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds, remains in the Hands of the Collectors in the Isle of Wight: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the said Collectors shall pay the said Sum of Seven hundred and Fifty Pounds to the Hands of Lieutenant Colonel Carne; who is to dispose of the same, for Payment of the Garisons there, and for such other Occasions as shall be necessary for the Fortifying and Defence of that Island; and to give an Account of his Disbursements: And this shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Collectors for their so doing. And it is further Ordered, That the Sum of Seven hundred and Fifty Pounds, out of the Proposition Money, shall be paid unto the Treasurers nominated in the said Act of Four hundred thousand Pounds; who are to give a Receipt for the same to the said Collectors, as paid in by the said Collectors upon the same Act.

Recorder of Lincolne.

Resolved, That this House holds fit, That Sir Charles Dallison, Recorder of Lincolne, be discharged of the said Place of Recorder; and that another be chosen in that Place in his Stead; the said Sir Cha. Dallison being impeached, by this House, of High Treason, for actual Levying of War against the King and Parliament: And Mr. Broxholme, a Member of this House, is appointed to acquaint that City with this Opinion and Order of the House.

London, &c. Assessment.

Sir H. Mildmay reports from the Conference, That the Lords had considered of their Privileges: And though they had passed many Ordinances for the publick Good, for the Assessing of Monies in the Cities of London... Westminster; yet they do desire this additional Proviso be added: Which was read, in hæc verba;

"WHEREAS several Ordinances of both Houses of Parliament, of the Twenty-ninth of November last, and the Seventh and Fourteenth of this Instant December, are passed, concerning the Assessing such Persons as are of Ability, as have not contributed, or not according to their Ability, as in the said Ordinances do and may appear: It is now further Ordained and Declared, by the Lords and in Parliament assembled, That the several and respective Assessors shall not assess any of the Members of either House of Parliament, or the Assistants of the House of Peers; any thing in the preceding forementioned Ordinances, or any of them, to the contrary notwithstanding.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Members of the House of Peers shall be assessed by that House only.

The Question being put, Whether the House of Commons should assess their Members;

The House was divided: And

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Yeas,43.
Sir Jo. Evelyn,
Mr. Purefrey, Tellers for the Noe, 40.

Resolved, &c. That the House of Commons shall tax their Members.

Resolved, &c. That the Assistants of the House of Peers shall be assessed by the House of Peers.

Resolved, &c. That the House doth assent to the additional Ordinance from the Lords, with this Clause added; "But that the Members of either House shall be assessed by That House whereof they are Members; and the Assistants of the Peers, by the House of Peers:" And that a Conference be desired with the Lords thereupon.

Intercepted Letters.

Mr.Whittacre reports, from the Committees of Informations, some Letters intercepted: Some whereof were read: One from Mr. Webb to Mr. Warwick; another from the same Man to Secretary Niclas, One from the Duke of Richmond to Secretary Nicholas.

They likewise presented One from Sir Wm. Boswell, unto his Majesty: And the Committee was appointed to open it, and read it.

Palmer's Bond.

Ordered, That Sir Roger Palmer's Servant, Goodman Jenkins, do presently deliver up unto Sir Wm. Strickland and Mr. Darley, to be brought to this House, a Bond made and signed by Barnaby Backwell and Mark Quested, unto Sir Roger Palmer, for the Payment for divers of his Majesty's Oxen, sold to Wm. Guilpin, and his Assignee, by Contract: And that the said Bond be kept in this House, for his Majesty's Use: And that Sir Wm. Strickland and Mr. Darley, do take a Messenger with him, to apprehend the said Backwell, if he shall not deliver the said Bond.

Supply of Ireland.

Ordered, That the Business concerning the Supply of Ireland, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Executions by Martial Law.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Informations, to inquire, by the best Means they can, after the Businesses concerning the Execution, and putting to Death, by Martial Law, Two of his Majesty's Subjects; One at Reading, and another at Henley.

Northampton, &c. Association.

Mr. Knightley presented, from the Committee, some Amendments and Additions to be added to the Ordinance of Association of the several Counties of Northampton, Leicester, &c.: The which were read, in hæc verba; viz. After the Words "Arms and Ammunition, &c." - "Upon the Propositions formerly agreed on by both Houses of Parliament, or by any other Way that they shall judge convenient, for the Suppressing of the present Rebellion, stirred up by the Malignant Persons, who desire to subvert the Happiness of this Kingdom: And shall have Power to order all Things necessary thereunto upon all Occasions to join with any other Forces raised by the same Authority:" And then, after the Words "Earl of Stamforde,"-" Having Commission from the Earl of Essex, Lord General."

Raising Forces.

Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Hollis, Mr. Solicitor, Lord Gray, Mr. Purefrey, Mr. Glyn, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Martyn, Mr. Peerepoint, Mr. Knightley, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Whitlocke;

This Committee is to consider how, out of the several Counties, a Body of Force may be raised, to oppose the Popish Army under the Command of the Earl of Newcastle: And are to present their Resolutions to the House: And to meet presently, upon the Rising of the House, in the Court of Wards.

Fortifying Harwich.

Ordered, That the Town of Harwich, out of the Two hundred Pounds collected by them upon the Propositions, shall detain One hundred Pounds: And, upon a Certificate, made by the Commissioners of That Town, of the Names and Sums of Money detained by them, by virtue of this Order, the Treasurers of London are to make them Acquittances for their Security; for which they are to have the Publick Faith: And what farther Sums of Money shall be advanced by them, upon the said Propositions, shall, together with the aforesaid One hundred Pounds, be laid out about the Fortifying of the said Town, according to the Propositions now reported to the House, by the Committee for the Association of the several Counties: And the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Essex are hereby required to take Order that the Works necessary to be done, for the Fortifying of the said Town, be forthwith speeded; and to give this House an Account thereof: And the Earl of Warwick, Lord Lieutenant of the said County, is hereby desired to take special Care for the Defence of the said Town; and to appoint such Officers and Commanders as he shall think fit, to take the Charge thereof: And, in his Absence, the like Care is required of the Deputy Lieutenants of the said County.