House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 06 January 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 6 Januarii, 1642.


Assembly of Divines.

3a vice lecta AN Act for the Calling an Assembly of est Billa, learned and godly Divines, to consult with for the Settling the Church Government, &c.; and, upon the Question, passed.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Nicholson, named in this Bill, shall be left out; and Mr. Matthew Newcomen, of Dedham, put in, in his Stead.

Resolved, &c. That Dr. Soames, of Staines, named in the Bill, be left out; and Dr. Jo. Wincopp put in, in his Stead.

Resolved, &c. That the Time in the Bill, for the Divines to meet, shall be the One-and-twentieth of March, in the Year 1642.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Jo. Goodwyn, of Coleman Street, London, be named in this Bill.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Henry Painter, of Exon, be named in this Bill.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Tho. Micklethwayte, of Cherryburton, be named in this Bill.

London Subscription.

A Declaration to be sent to the Citizens of London, to invite and encourage them to a farther Subscription for Monies, to maintain the Army during the Time of Treaty, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence, by Mr. Strode.

Seizing Horses.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bennett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning some Orders that issued from both Houses, to Mr. Browne and others, for the Seizing of Horses.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Wm. Armyn, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Strode brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Deputy Lieutenants of the City of Norwich and County of Norfolk: That he delivered the Bill for Calling an Assembly: And that, as to the Declaration concerning the Raising of a further Supply of Monies, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Petition to the Peers.

Ordered, That Mr. Prideaux shall have Liberty to present a Petition to the House of Peers.

Articles of Peace in Cheshire.

The Articles of the Peace, concluded in Cheshire, between the Commissioners of Array and the Deputy Lieutenants, was read; and a Declaration of the Lords and Commons in Dislike, and Renouncing of it, was likewise read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and delivered to Mr. Rigby, to be sent to the Lords.

Seizing Horses.

Mr. Pym reports the Conference with the Lords; and presented an Order concerning the Seizing of Horses: The which was read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee for Discharge of Horses.

Bristoll Loan.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom do grant their Warrants to the Treasurer at Wars, for Payment of Two thousand Pounds borrowed at Bristoll, according to the several Bills of Exchange to that Purpose.

Lincolne Committee.

Ordered, That the Earl of Lincolne, Captain Lister, and Mr. Archer, be added as Committees of the County of Lincolne: And that Sir Wm. Armyn do peruse the Order that gives Power to the Committees of Norfolk and Suffolk to assess and raise Monies for maintaining the Forces there; and to bring in the like for Lincolnshire.

Prisoners in Lincolne.

Resolved, That the Sheriff of the County of Lincolne be required to remove his Prisoners and Gaol, now in the Castle at Lincolne, to the Bishop's Palace in the same City: And that Sir Wm. Armyn do bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose; to be carried up to the Lords for that Purpose.

Letter to Ld. Fairefax.

A Letter prepared by Sir Wm. Strickland, to be sent to the Lord Fairefax, was read; and, by Vote, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker.

Propositions to the King.

The House, according to the Order of Yesterday, fell into the Consideration of the Propositions.

And the Proposition from the Committee, concerning an Act of Oblivion, to pass for all Crimes, Offences, and Trespasses, done, caused, or incurred, by reason of this War, was propounded:

And then the Question was put, Whether this Question should now be put.

The House was divided: And
The Noes went forth.
Mr. Hampden, Tellers for the Yea: 47.
Mr. Fienis, With the Yea,
Mr. Cromwell, Tellers for the Noe: 54.
Mr. Long, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That in the general Pardon which Your Majesty hath been pleased to offer to Your Subjects, all Offences and Misdemeanours committed before the 10th of January 1641, which have been, or before the 11th of January 1643, shall be, questioned and proceeded against in Parliament, upon Complaint in the House of Commons, shall be excepted; which Offences and Misdemeanors shall nevertheless be taken and adjudged to be fully discharged against all other inferior Courts.

Resolved, That likewise there shall be an Exception of all Offences committed by any Person or Persons which hath or have had any Hand or Practice in the Rebellion of Ireland; or which hath or have given any Counsel, Assistance or Encouragement, to the Rebels there, for the Maintenance of that Rebellion.

Resolved, That the particular Persons named shall be excepted in the general Pardon.

Persons in custody.

Resolved, That Sir Edward Wardour, Dr. Dukeson, and the rest that were going down to Oxon, stayed and brought up by Order of this House, do continue in the Serjeant's Custody, till the House take further Order.

Seizing Horses.

"The Lords in Parliament, finding great Inconvenience in the Execution of that Order of both Houses, dated the 15° Novembris last, for the Taking of Horses; sometime there having been seized such as belong to the Peers, and other well-affected Persons to the Parliament and Kingdom: The Lords have thought fit to revoke the said Order; and do hereby Order, That, from henceforward, no Horses, Mares, or Geldings, shall be seized upon, but such as shall be appointed by Warrant from the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, or by the Lord General; and the Names of such Persons whose Horse are to be seized, shall be expressed in the said Warrants: And that all former Orders for the Taking of Horses, are hereby revoked, and made void: And that this Order shall be forthwith printed and published."

Referred to the afore-mentioned Committee for Discharge of Horses.

Bristoll Loan.

Whereas the Inhabitants within the City of Bristoll have lent, upon the Parliament Propositions, Three thousand Pounds (which, according to the said Propositions, ought to have been paid to Sir John Wollaston Knight, Alderman of the City of London) unto John Ash Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, for the present Assistance of those within the Counties of Glocester Somerset, and Wiltes, which are associated together, for mutual Defence, in service of the King and Parliament: Whereupon some of the Gentlemen of this Association became bound for the Payment of the said Three thousand Pounds, unto the said Inhabitants of the City of Bristoll, by the First Day of February next; if, in the mean time, an Order be not obtained, from both Houses of Parliament, to accept of the said Three thousand Pounds thus paid, as lent upon the Propositions aforesaid: Now, forasmuch as the Three thousand Pounds is to be employed for the present Raising of an Army out of the said Three Counties, to join with the other Forces under the Command of the Earl of Essex, for the more speedy Ending of this unhappy War: It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in this present Parliament. That the said Three thousand Pounds thus lent and paid by the Inhabitants of the City of Bristoll as aforesaid, shall be taken as lent upon the Propositions from the Parliament; and they the said Inhabitants of Bristoll accordingly to have the Publick Faith for their Security and Satisfaction.