House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 16 January 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, 16 Januari, 1642.


Proceedings against Winter, &c.

A LETTER from Colonel Goodwin, and other Committees of Bucks, from Aylesbury, of the 15th of January; and divers Examinations against John Wintour, Mr. F. Sanders, Mr. F. Goodiere, Sir Jo. Butler, Wm. Ellis, &c.; and likewise a Petition from the County of Herts; and his Majesty's Answer thereunto; were all this Day read. And as it appears by the Letter from the Committees, they brought Twenty of those scandalous Books, intituled, "A Complaint to the House of Commons," from Oxon with them.

Resolved, &c. That Dr. Seaton, Mr. F. Goodicre, and Mr. Jo. Winter, and Mr. Wm. Ellis, Mr. F. Sanders, be forthwith committed Prisioners to Elye House; there to remain during the Pleasure of this House.

Resolved, That Captain Simple, that brought up these Prisoners, shall have the Horses that they were taken upon.

Committee for Trade.

Mr. Grimston, Mr. Moore, Mr. Hoyle, Lord Ruthen, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Beding field, Mr. Dunch, Mr. Buller, Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Spurstoe, Mr. Bence, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Bond, Mr. Purefreye, are added to the Committee for Trade, where Sir .. Vane has the Chair: And are to meet on Wednesday Morning, in the Chequerchamber, at Eight of Clock.

Tin Farmers.

Ordered, That Mr. Napier, Receiver of the Duchy of Cornewall, do give unto the Tin Farmers an Acquittance, such as usual, and as they ought to receive by their Patent, for such Monies of the Tin Farm as they shall pay upon Orders of this House; and that he shall be saved harmless by Ordinance of both Houses.

Prisouers at Windsore.

Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Bond, Mr. Hill, Sir Jo. Corbett, are added to the Committee for Prisoners, where Sir Robert Harley has the Chair.

Ordered, That this House doth not, nor ever doth, intend, but that such Prisoners as are carried to Windsore may have Beds, and other Necessaries, provided them at their own Charges: And the Committee is to write to Colonel Ven to this Purpose.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Prisoners where Sir Robert Harley has the Chair, to consider of a Discharge to Colonel Ven, who stands charged with Sixty Prisoners, whereas he received Fifty-five; and likewise to prepare an Order for regulating the Fees to be taken for the Keeping of * * * *.

Prisoners of War.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Glyn and Mr. Pym, to bring in a Declaration concerning the Usage of the Prisoners in the King's Army: And that it be especially recommended unto Mr. Glyn.

Tin Farmers, &c. Indem-nity.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Armyn do prepare an Ordinance, to pass both Houses, for saving harmless the Tin Farmers, for such Monies as they shall pay in upon the Order of this House; and likewise to save harmless the Receiver of the Duchy, for such Acquittances as, upon Order of this House, he shall give unto the said Tin Farmers.

Message to Lords.

Lord Dungarvon went to the Lords, to desire them to dispatch the Instructions for Devon; and to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

A Message * * * *

Ship Sancta Clara.

The Lords have commanded us to bring to this House these Requests and Desires of the Spanish Ambassador, concerning the Ship Sancta Clara: That their Lordships had taken them into serious Consideration; and desire that this House would do the like.

Sir W. Waller, &c. thanked.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do give Thanks, from the House, to Sir Wm. Waller, for the great Services he has done, since the Raising of the Army, in the taking in of Portsmouthe, Farnham Castle, and Chichester: And that the House do take it into Consideration, in convenient Time, to recommend him to the Government of the Fort and Island of Plymouth.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do give Thanks to Sir Arth. Heselrig and Mr. Herbert Morley, for the great Services they did in the taking in of Chichester.

Mr. Speaker accordingly did take Notice of their great Services done; and did return them Thanks, according to the foresaid Orders.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. * * * *.

St. Martin's in the Fields Vicarage.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bennett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords have sent down to this House the Ordinance concerning St. Martin's To which they desire one Word may be added; which is according to their Sense, and, they conceive, according to the Sense of this House; viz. "The yearly Sum of One hundred Marks to the Curate of Convent Garden, &c."

Lords to sit.

Lord Dungarvon brings Answer, That the Lords will sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock, as is desired.

Northampton, &c. Assessment.

Mr. Knightley brings Answer, That the Lords have agreed to the Order for Assessing of Monies in the several Counties of Northampton, &c. associated: And that the said Order may be printed with the Association.

Members disabled to sit.

Resolved, That Sir Jo. Mallory be forthwith disabled from continuing any longer a Member of this House, during this Parliament, for appearing in Arms against the Parliament.

Resolved, That Mr. Geo. Vane be forthwith disabled from sitting any longer, or continuing a Member of this House, during this Parliament, for appearing in Arms against the Parliament.

Resolved, That Mr. Edw. Scymour be forth with disabled from sitting any longer, or continuing a Member of this House, during this Parliament, for appearing in Arms against the Parliament.

Propositions to the King.

The House fell into Consideration of the Propositions: And Ordered, That this Clause might be added at the End of the Eighth Proposition, concerning the Judges, &c.; viz. "And that the several Persons, not before named, that do now hold any of these Places beforementioned, may be removed."

Ordered, That in the Twelfth Proposition, concerning entering into a stricter Alliance with the States of the United Provinces, and other Protestant Princes, after the Word "Pope," "and his Adherents of the Spanish and Jesuitical Faction," be added; and after the Words "whereby Your Subjects," these Words, "may hope to be free from the Mischiefs which this Kingdom hath endured, through the Power which some of that Party have had in your Councils," be added.

Ordered, That this Proposition shall be added; viz. "That Your Majesty will be pleased to restore such Members of either House of Parliament, to their several Places of Service and Employment, out of which they have been put since the Beginning of this Parliament; That they may receive Satisfaction and Reparation for those Places, and for the Profits which they have lost by such Removal, upon the Petition of both Houses of Parliament: And that all others may be restored to those Offices and Employments, who have been put out of the same upon any Displeasure conceived against them, for any Assistance given to both Houses of Parliament, or obeying any their Commands, or forbearing to leave their Attendance upon the Parliament, without Licence, or for any other Occasion, arising from these unhappy Differences betwixt Your Majesty and the Two Houses of Parliament; upon the like Petition of both Houses."


Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bennett and Dr., Heath;

That the Lords have passed the Act concerning the Pluralities, with a small Amendment; which they conceive was an Omission in the Clerk that ingrossed it; viz. That the Word "August" be made "April" in the Second Roll, Linea*.

Military Affairs.

Letters from Mr. Fra. Buller, &c. dated 11° Januarii last, was read; declaring how the Earl of Stamford's Forces had forced their Passage into Cornewall, at Newbridge, and taken about Forty Prisoners: A List whereof was likewise read.

Poceedings against Tin Farmers.

Two of the Tin Farmers, viz. Mr. Langham and Mr. Roger Vivian, were called in: And, being demanded by Mr. Speaker to give their positive Answer, Whether they would pay the Money the House had ordered, refused it positively, unless the Receiver of the Duchy of Cornewall gave an Acquittance; who, as was informed, in all Likelihood, was in the King's Army.

Whereas the Tin Farmers being required forthwith to pay unto this House the Sum of Two thousand One hundred and Fifty Pounds, being Part of the Sum of Six thousand Pounds due to his Majesty for half a Year's Rent for the Tin Farm, which they confess is remaining in their Hands: And whereas Mr. Langham and Mr. Roger Vivian, Two of the Tin Farmers, being required to pay the said Monies, and promised that they should have an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament for their Indemnity, did peremptorily refuse to pay the same, unless the Receiver of the Duchy of Cornwall do give them an Acquittance for their Discharge: For which Indignity, offered to the said House by the said Langham and Vivian, It is Ordered, That they be forthwith committed to the Gaol at Colchester; there to remain during the Pleasure of this House.

Ordered, That Mr. Overing, Cash-keeper to the Tin Farmers, be forthwith summoned in safe Custody: And that such Monies as be in his Hands, that belong to the Tin Farmers, be seized by Colonel Manwaring.

Ordered, That Sir Job. Harbye, and the rest of the Tin Farmers, be summoned to attend this House forthwith.


Ordered, That Oxforded Carrier be stayed, and not suffered to pass hereafter between Oxford and London.

Persons sent for in Custody, &c.

Ordered, That the Servants of Mr. Secretary Nicolas, and the Lord Faulkland, be forthwith sent for, in safe Custody, to attend this House: And the Committees of Examinations has Power to examine them, and all other suspected Persons that frequent Westminster Hall, or any Part of London.

Apprehending Spies.

Ordered, That if the Agent or Servant to any Person that bears Arms against the Parliament shall presume hereafter to come to Westminster, or reside here about London, that he shall be forthwith apprehended as a Spy, and be proceeded against accordingly: And all Persons are required to do their Endeavour for the Discovery of such Persons that shall hereafter come to the Parliament House, or Westminister, or any Parts about London, that they may be apprehended accordingly.

King's Revenue.

Ordered, That the Committee for the King's Revenue have Power to call the King's Receivers before them, to know what Money is in their Hands: And that they be required not to part with any of the Monies to his Majesty, that is or shall come to their Hands, till this House take further Order.

Persons going to Oxford.

Ordered, That the Lords be moved to join with this House, that no Person whatsoever shall be permitted to go to Oxford without the Leave of this House.

Person committed.

Resolved, &c. That the Sheriff of the County of Hertford be committed to London House, till this House take further Order.

Oxford Carriers, &c.

It is Ordered, by the Commons House of Parliament, That no Carriers, Waggoners, Carts, Waggons, or Horses, laden with any Commodities whatsoever, shall be permitted hereafter to go from hence, or elsewhere, to Oxford, or any Part of the King's Army, with any Manner of Provisions, without the special Licence and Authority of this Houses first had and obtained: And if they do presume, notwithstanding, to go, or carry any thing, that then their Persons and Goods shall be seized upon, and kept in safe Custody, till this House take further Order: And Colonel Moore is to take Care that strict Command be given to all the Courts of Guards, to make Stay of them accordingly: and to bring the Persons stayed before him, to the Intent they may be brought to this House: And that diligent Search be made for any Monies that may be caried or conveyed by any Person to Oxford.