House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 28 February 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, ultimo Februarii, 1642.

King's Proclamations not to be published.

ORDERED, That the Mayor and Sheriffs of Exon shall neither publish, nor suffer to be published, Two Proclamations, which they have received; the One intituled, "A Proclamation for the Payment of his Majesty's Rents, and other Revenues, at his City at Oxon:" The other "for the Safety of his Majesty's Navy and the Kingdom:" And that, for their Obedience according to their Duties herein, they shall be protected and saved harmless by Authority of Parliament.

St. Mary Magdalen's Parsonage.

An Ordinance for sequestring the Rents and Profits of the Parsonage of St. Mary Magdalen's, near Old Fish- street, where Mr. Matthew Griffith was Parson, into the Hands of certain Sequestrators named in the said Ordin- ance; and for putting in of Ithiell Smart, Master of Arts, a godly, learned, and orthodox Divine; who is thereby required to preach every Lord's Day, and to officiate as Parson, and to take Care for the Discharge of the Cure of the said Place in all the Duties thereof, until farther Order be taken by both Houses of Parliament, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Person sent for.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Matthew Griffith be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms, at- tending on this House.

Ordinances for Money.

Whereas there was an Ordinance formerly passed for the Publick Faith for Raising of Monies, to pay Men, in the Counties of Warwick and Stafford, the which the Lords have not yet passed: There was this Day pre- sented to the House an Ordinance in the same very Words, and to the same Purposes and Effect, for Staf- fordshire only, as formerly passed this House for War- wickshire and Staffordshire together: Was this Day read.

Resolved, That a Conference be desired with the Lords, concerning the Ordinance for Levying of Monies in the Counties of Warwick and Stafford; and concerning all other Ordinances lying with the Lords, concerning the Raising of Monies.

Sir H. Vane, Mr. Marten, Mr. Noble, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Whittlock, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Jo. Corbett, Mr. Glyn, are appointed to prepare Heads for this Con- ference: And are to meet so soon as the Conference with the Lords, appointed this Morning, is ended.

Lords to sit.

Sir Robert Harley is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

Loan from the City.

Serjeant Wilde is appointed to draw an Ordinance for securing such Citizens as shall lend the Threescore thousand Pounds desired by Committees of both Houses at a Common Council, out of the weekly Assessments of London, by Twenty thousand Pounds the Month, un- til this Threescore thousand Pounds be satisfied; with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent.


Mr. Pym, Mr. Marten, Sir H. Vane, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Lords will sit.

Sir Robert Harley, brings Answer, That the Lords will sit this Afternoon at Three.

Braughton's Recognizances.

Ordered, That the Judges of the King's Bench do grant a Certiorari for Removing all Recognizances enter- ed into by Edward Braughton Esquire, for his Appear- ance before any Commissioners of Oyer and Terminer, or Judges of Assize, and of all Indictments, or other Pro- ceedings against him in the County of Hereforde.

Disposing of Money.

Ordered, That the Treasurers for the Subscriptions be required not to dispose of any of the Monies that come in from those that have refused to contribute, but by the special Order of this House: And that they be required to pay out of the Monies, which is brought in from the said Persons, Two thousand Pounds for the Payment of the Garison in Hull: And that, till that be paid, they pay none of the said Monies to any other Use; nor after, but by Order of this House: And that they do give an Account unto this House, What Monies have been brought in, as aforesaid, which they have already dis- posed of; and to whom: And Mr. Vassall and Sir Samuel Ofeild are ordered to see this Order put in Execution.

Treaty with the King.

Mr. Pym presented from the Conference, the Articles of the Cessation, and the Preamble, with their own Al- teration: And a Paper of the Votes that have passed, concerning the Propositions; which they desire may be sent to his Majesty in a Letter.

Mr. Whittlock is appointed to go to the Lords, to de- sire a free Conference by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Matter of the last Conference.

Mr. Glyn, Mr. Holles, Mr. Marten, Mr. Pym, are ap- pointed to prepare Reasons to be offered unto the Lords.

Mr. Whittlock brings Answer, That the Lords will give a present Meeting at a free Conference, by Com- mittees of both Houses, as is desired.


Resolved, &c. That the Two first Votes, concerning the Manner and Time of the Treaty, shall be sent unto his Majesty, by a Messenger.

The Question being put, Whether the Two Votes, concerning the Times of Disbanding the Armies should be sent unto his Majesty, by this Message;

The House was divided.
Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 64.
Mr. Pierrepointe, With the Noe,
Sir H. Ludlowe, Tellers for the Yea: 42.
Mr. Marten, With the Yea,

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Preamble to the Articles, with the Alteration sent down from the Lords.


Mr. Pym, reports, That the Lords do agree to the Proposition of this House, of sending the Two Votes only to his Majesty; concerning the Manner and Time of the Treaty; together with the Preamble, and Arti- cles of the Cessation: The which they will have fair written, against their Meeting at Three of Clock.

City Charter.

Mr. Prideaux, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Hill, Mr. Good- wyn, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Cage, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Ven.

This Committee is to consider of the City Charter, concerning the Service, Place and Honour, due to the Sheriffs of London and Middlesex, and to prepare some Declaration concerning it; and to present it to the House: And are to meet, at Two post meridiem, To- morrow, in the Court of Wards: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Loan from the City.

WHEREAS a Committee of Lords and Commons have, in the Name of both Houses of Parliament lately desired the Lord Mayor, the Aldermen, Common Coun- cilmen, and Citizens of London, to advance the Sum of Threescore thousand Pounds, for the present Supply of the Army: It is this Day Ordained and Declared, by the and Commons, assembled in Parliament, That all Persons who have already lent or shall lend, any Monies, towards the speedy Making up of the Sum aforesaid, shall be repaid the same, with Consideration for Forbearance thereof, after the Rate of Eight Pound per Cent. out of the first Monies to be raised on the weekly Assessment, that by the late Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament are now forthwith to be made, as well in the rest of the Kingdom, as in the City of London: The same to be paid after the Proportion of One Third Part of the said Sum to be lent and advanced monthly.

Irish Affairs.

A Letter from the Committees, from Dublin, of the Fifteenth of February, expressing some Commands come from his Majesty to the Lords Justices, to require them not to admit the said Committees to the Debates of the Council Board; and that .... Justices had sent them a Message certifying them, that they were resolved to obey his Majesty's Commands; and that thereupon they were intended speedily to come away: And likewise a Relation of the good Success it hath pleased God to bless the English Forces with, against the Rebels, on the 7th of February, at * * * *; and likewise a Letter to the same Purpose, for Sir Jo. Chichester, to Sir Jo. Clot- worthy; were all read: And

It is Ordered, That they be all forthwith printed.

Rumour against Parliament.

Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Mr. Solicitor, Sir H. Vane, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Pym, Sir Robert Parkhurst;

Irish Affairs.

This Committee is appointed to examine the Business informed of touching a Rumour, that somebody, em- ployed by the State of Ireland, should spread, by Letter, there; That they should receive some Answer from the Parliament "That if Five Hundred Pounds would save that Kingdom, they would not spare it, until they had their Wills of the King:" They are likewise to prepare Heads for a Conference to be desired with the Lords, upon the Letter from the Committees at Dublyn; and the other Informations concerning Ireland: And they are farther to consider, What Course may be most necessary and requisite for the speedy Supply and the Safety of the Kingdom of Ireland: And to present their Opinions to the House: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, &c.: And are to meet when and where they please.

Members subscriptions.

Mr. Maynard reports from the Committee appointed to consider, What Members had subscribed to the Adven- ture of Ireland, and had not brought in their Monies ac- cordingly; and like .... whether such Members as had paid in Part of their Adventure, were not obliged by the Acts to pay in the rest; That the Committee had consi- dered of the Acts; and of the Propositions in the Act; and of the Duty inforced by the Act; and of the Reasons of the Act: And are of opinion * * * *.

Resolved, &c. That the Debate of this Report shall be resumed on Friday Morning next: And Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind thereof.

Ordered, That a List of the Names of such as have subscribed upon the Act of Adventure for Ireland, shall be presented on Saturday next.

Ordinances for Money.

Sir Pet. Wentworth went up to the Lords, to desire a Conference, if it may stand with their Convenience, con- cerning divers Ordinances for Monies, remaining with their Lordships unpassed.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Noble, Mr. Solicitor, and Mr. Martyn, are appointed Managers of this Con- ference.

London Assessment

The House being informed, That divers of the Alder- men of the City of London were attending without;

They were called in: And Alderman Wright, in the Name of the rest, acquainted this House, That they were sent unto this House with a Petition from the Lord Mayor, and Court of Aldermen, on the Behalf of themselves, and the Citizens of London.

The which was read (after they had withdrawn); humbly desiring this House to consider the great Neces- sities of the City; and to abate of the Ten thousand Pounds per Week a good Proportion; otherwise they think it will hardly be collected.

They being called in again; Mr. Speaker told them, in the Name of this House, "That this House doth acknowledge the great Merit of the City in their liberal Contributions for the Publick Charges: And that the House is ever tender of any thing that concerns the Safety and Satisfaction of the City: And to this Petition they shall have a speedy Answer."

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, this Petition be taken into Consideration by the House.

Ordinance Office.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom do examine what is justly due to the Labourers belonging to the Office of the Ordance, in the Tower of London, being Twenty-two in Number; and to Nicho. Coxe, Messenger to the Office of the Ordnance; since they were employed by this House: And that accord- ingly they do grant a Warrant to the Treasurer at Wars for Payment of the same.

Raising Money in Staffordshire, &c.

Reasons why the Ordinances now remaining unpassed the Lords House, for the Raising of some Monies in Staffordshire, and Warwickshire, for the Defence of those Counties, and for the Counties of the City of Coventry and Leichfeild, should be presently passed.

1. FOR that, in the said Counties, the Papists, and others ill-affected to the Parliament, are in actual Re- bellion; and have committed divers Acts of Hostility.

2. That the Officers, that should manage the Military Affairs for the Defence of the County of Stafford, and the County and City of Leichfeild, are now in Town, and cannot get to their Charge, unless they be supplied with Monies; which is to be raised by the Credit which the Passing of that Ordinance will yield them.

3. Forasmuch as the Cessation of Arms is to begin upon Saturday next, therefore, if the Ordinance be not forthwith passed, the Cessation will begin before the Officers can get to their Charge; and so the Counties will be lost for want of their Help.

4. For that this Ordinance is only in pursuance of the Ordinance of Association of the said Counties, which is already passed both Houses: And the Passing of these is for the Making of the other Ordinance effectual.

5. The like Reasons for the Counties of Salop and other Counties.


Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to a present Meeting, at a Conference, as is desired.

Loan from the City.

Mr. Purefroye carried up to the Lords the Ordinance for securing the Threescore thousand Pounds desired to be advanced by the Citizens, for the Use of the Army.

Contract for Powder.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Navy, to make the best and safest Conditions they can with Mr. Cordwell, for the Furnishing of them with Powder.

London Petition to Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords have received a Petition from the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of London: The which they desire to communicate to this House; to the end that, Consi- deration being had of it, there might be a Concurrence in the Resolution upon it.

Treaty with the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Glanvile;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That they have appointed Two Lords of their House, the Earl of Northumberland, and the Lord Viscount Say and Seale, to attend his Majesty upon the Treaty; and desire this House to name a Committee of a proportionable Number, and that speedily, in regard the Business re- quires Expedition.

The Question was propounded, Whether Four of the Committee that last attended his Majesty, shall be now sent upon this Employment of the Treaty.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question should be now put;

The House was divided.
The Noes went forth.
Mr. Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 71.
Sir Jo. Evelyn, With the Noe,
Mr. Marten, Tellers for the Yea: 41.
Sir H. Mildmay, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Then the House, passed the particular Members named, particularly, upon the Question: And, upon par- ticular Questions,

It was Resolved, That Mr. Pierrepointe, Sir Wm. Ar- myn, Mr. Whittlock, Sir Jo. Holland, shall be the Com- mittee to attend his Majesty, with a Committee of a pro- portionable Number of the Lords, upon the Employment of the Treaty upon the Propositions.

Deferring the Assizes.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords do agree to the Ordinance for putting off the Assizes: And desire it may be printed: And that this House would take Care for the Dispersing it through the Counties.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers to the for- mer Message;

The House has considered their Lordships Message; and have agreed upon a proportionable Number; viz. Mr. Pierrepointe, Sir Wm. Armyn, Sir Jo. Holland, Mr. Whittlock.