House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 2 March 1644

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 2 Martii, 1643.



ORDERED, that it be referred to my Lord Admiral, to employ Captain Twise in some fitting Ship, upon the Northern Coasts, to lie between Scotland and Ireland; being recommended to that Employment by the Committee from Newcastle.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That the Report concerning the Affairs and Occurrences of Ireland, be made on Monday Morning next.

Sir Jo. Evelyns.

Sir Gilb. Gerard reports the Business concerning the Two Sir Jo. Evelyns.

Resolved, That the Matter concerning Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire shall be re-committed.

Resolved, &c. That the Matter concerning Sir Jo. Evelyn of Surry, shall be re-committed.-

Message to Lords.

Mr. Solicitor carried up to the Lords, the Instructions to Mr. Strickland; The Ordinance concerning the settling the Government of the Fellowship of the Levant Company; The Ordinance concerning the Abatement of the Rates and Taxes upon Tobacco.-

Sir Jo. Evelyn.

The Question being put, whether Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire shall be now set at Liberty;

The House was divided:

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Wm. Lewes, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 71.
Mr. Strode, Mr. Prideaux, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 66.

Members withdrawing before Dividing the House.

The House being informed, after the House numbered, and the Report made, that divers Members of the House, who sat the putting of the Question in the Affirmative and Negative, yet, after, withdrew into the Committee Chamber; and, upon the Telling of the House, gave no Vote, one Way or other; nor were told, of one Side or t'other;

They that sate the Question, upon Debate, were commanded to give their Votes: Which they did accordingly; Mr. Solicitor, Neg.; Sir Wm. Waller, Neg.; Sir Wm. Brereton, Aff.

Then there arose another Question, whether any Member, who was present at the Debate of any Matter, and withdrew himself into the Committee Chamber before the Question upon that Matter was put, might, after the House was Divided, Told, and the Report made, be required to give his Vote; Which was the Case of many Members upon this Question: This Question endured a long Debate; and, being a Matter of great Difficulty, and much concerning the most essential Privileges of Parliament, came not to any Resolution or Decision at this Time.

Whereupon, the main Question, concerning Sir Jo. Evelyn, though reported, was adjudged not to be drawn up into any Resolution as yet; neither was any Order entered or pronounced upon it.

Money for Army.

Ordered, That this following Clause be added to the Order of the Twenty-fourth of February, concerning the Proceed of the Tin Business, to be employed for the Service of the Western Counties; viz.

"It is further Ordered, That the said Two thousand Pounds be forthwith paid by the Committee of the King's Revenue, unto Mr. John Trenchard; who is to charge the same upon his Account; and is to issue it forth unto Colonel Turner, or such as he shall appoint to receive the same, to be employed for the Use and Service of his Regiment, as aforesaid; and, if there be not Two thousand Pounds of the said Proceed at present in the Receiver's Hands, the Committee is hereby required to make up the said Two thousand Pounds, and to reimburse themselves, out of the first Monies that shall come in upon the Tin Business."

Ordered, That the Committee for the King's Revenue, do meet this Afternoon, to give Dispatch to the Two thousand Pounds for the Advance of Colonel Turner's Regiment.

Associated Counties.

Ordered, That the Gentlemen of the Four associated Counties, do meet this Afternoon; and use their utmost Diligence forthwith to send in the Horse to Sir Wm. Waller, that are behind of the Number agreed on by those Four associated Counties, unto him.

Harrison's, &c. Partnership.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do write his Letters unto Sir Wm. Boswell Knight, and also unto other the Factors and Agents beyond the Seas, in the late Partnership between Lieutenant Colonel Harrison, now employed in the Service of the Parliament, and Charles Jennings, in Arms; in whose Hands any of the Estate belonging to the said Partnership now remains, that they do not observe or perform any Order or Direction, of or from the said Jennings, or any other on his Behalf, touching the Disposal of any of the said Estate belonging to the said Partnership; notwithstanding any former Letters of Inhibition, or other Restraint whatsoever, on the Behalf of the said Jennings; and that they observe and perform such Order and Direction which they shall receive from the said Lieutenant Colonel Harrison, under his Hand, touching the Disposal of the said Estate.

Messages from Lords.

Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Page;

That the Lords have received a Letter from the Earl of Forth, concerning the King's Children; and hope they shall have as great a Care, both of their Bodies and Souls, here, as they at Oxford can have: That they have received Letters from the Scotts Commissioners; and, in one of them, it is expressed, that other Letters are sent; they are not yet come to the Commissioners Hands: That the Earl of Warwick intendeth to send Ten Merchant Ships, and Two of the King's Ships, to guard the Scotts and Irish Coasts. They have sent down likewise, an Ordinance concerning the Victualling of the Navy; wherein they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Members deserting Parliament.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page;

That the Lords have commanded us to present unto this House, an Ordinance for the not admitting of any Members into either House, that have deserted the Parliament, without Consent of both Houses; and desire the Concurrence of this House: And desire you will consider of taking off the Sequestration of my Lord of Holland's Estate, about which they have sent down twice to this House; and that you take it into your Care.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the first Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the last Messengers; That this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.