House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 16 August 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 16 Augusti, 1643.


Proceedings concerning Saltmarshe.

MR. Saltemarshe was called in: And being demanded divers Questions concerning Letters from Sir Tho. Gower unto him, and the concerning some Propositions touching the King, and the Differences between the King and Parliament, did acknowledge the Proposition to be of his collecting, upon the Jealousies cast forth at Oxon.

Ordered, That this Paper, concerning Mr. Saltmarshe, and the whole Business thereupon depending, be referred to the further Examination and Consideration of Sir Jo. Hotham's Committee: And they are to send for the original Letters and Papers mentioned in the Paper.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Saltmarshe, be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House.

(fn. 1) Mr. Saltmarsh the Minister was called in: And, being demanded, by Mr. Speaker, what Letters he had received from Sir Thomas Gower, and when; and whether any thing was in those Letters that concerned the Queen's coming to Hull in a disguised manner; he answered, That, about three Quarters of a Year since, he received several Letters from Sir Thomas Gower the younger, and did hold him right to the Parliament, so long as he could; but he was so wavering, that he fell off from the Parliament: But, for any Letter concerning the Queen's coming to Hull, he never knew of any such Letter; and if any such Letters were found in his Trunk. they were not put in there by him. As to the Propositions which Mr. Speaker particularly asked him of, he answered, that indeed he had, himself alone, without the Assistance of any other, set down in Writing the particular Jealousies he had cast abroad, being to the Effect of those Mr. Speaker informed him of; which he did propound to himself as the Results of the Jealousies they had at Oxford; but that it was far from his Heart to propound such Things as fitting to be done, (for his Actions have spoken the contrary) but merely Observations out of the Jealousies and Suspicions at Oxford, for his particular Satisfaction. And this he averred, on the Faith and Reputation of a Minister.-- (fn. 2)

Marten's Regiment.

-Ordered, That the Committee of the Militia do take care of the securing the Horses and the Arms of the several Troops of Mr. Marten's Regiment.


That a Committee shall be appointed, of . . Rous, . . Crew, . . . Solicitor, . . Pym, . . Recorder, . . Holland, . . Green, . . Reynolds, . . H. Vane, . . Cage, . . Strode, . . Wilde, . . Vassall, . . Rolle, . . Wentworth, . . Gerard, . . Baynton, . . Goodwyn, . . Prideaux, . . Millington, . . Corbett, . . Browne, . . Niclas;

This Committee is appointed to consider of a Power to be left with a Committee, in case the House should think fit to adjourn; and to report it to the House: And all that will come are to have Voices at this Committee: And are to meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock, in the Star Chamber; and to bring it in on Friday.


Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve the Earl of Bolingbrooke and the Lord Edw. Howard to be Commissioners of the Admiralty; and likewise Mr. Reynolds to be Commissioner of the Admiralty, in the Place of Mr. Marten.

Warrant to Bacon.

Ordered, That Mr. Bacon shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to travel beyond Seas into France, with one Servant.

Pass to Guibon.

Ordered, That Mr. Charles Guibon, a French Gentleman, chief Surgeon to the Earl of Lincolne's Regiment in Lincolneshire, who hath done good Service there, shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go into France, with his Wife and Family.


Ordered, That the Ordinance for Pressing be forthwith sent down to my Lord General.

Message to Lords.

Sir H. Mildmay carried up to the Lords, the Ordinance for Impresting Twenty thousand Soldiers in the Six associated Counties; the Names of the Earl of Bullingbrooke, the Lord Edw. Howard, and Mr. Reynolds, to be Commissioners of the Admiralty: And was to put the Lords in mind of passing the additional Ordinance for Sequestrations; and the Ordinance for disarming Malignants.


Sir H. Mildmay brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for Impresting of Soldiers in the Six associated Counties; and to the Addition of the Earl of Bullingbrooke, the Lord Edw. Howard, and Mr. Reynolds, to be Commissioners of the Admiralty: And, as to the Ordinance for disarming Malignants; and the additional Ordinance for Sequestrations; they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Recorder went up to the Lords, to acquaint their Lordships, that there are many Businesses, of great Importance, that necessarily require the Concurrence of both Houses for their Dispatch; and to desire their Lordships, that, as This House hath resolved that they will not adjourn without first acquainting That House, that so their Lordships would do the like.

Countess of Bedford's Plate, &c.

Ordered, That the Trunk of Plate, and other Things, belonging to the Countess Dowager of Bedford, sent to my Lady Vere's House by the said Countess of Bedford, do remain there, with the said Lady Vere, until this House take further Order.

Defence of Poole.

A Letter, to be sent from Mr. Speaker to the Town of Poole, to encourage them to persevere in continuing upon their Defence, was this Day read; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to the Town of Poole.


Ordered, That the humble Petition of James Fenn, Merchant Adventurer, be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall.

And it is further Ordered, That all that shall desire to pass beyond the Seas, with their Wives, Children, or Families, do first address themselves to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, and bring Testimony from that Committee, before any Motion be made here for their going beyond Seas.

Horse Arms.

Ordered, That this Letter from the Lord Gray from Leicester, of the Fourteenth of August, desiring a Supply of Horse Arms, be referred to the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom.

Decree in Chancery.

Ordered, That Mr. Kirke be enjoined to obey and perform the Decree made in Chancery, between himself, Mr. Porter, and one Susan Clerke; and to shew his Obedience this Day Fortnight; or else the House will take further Order.

Lords agree to Ordinances.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have returned to you Two Ordinances: The one for securing the Cities of London and Westminster: The other for Explanation of the Ordinance of Sequestrations; to the which they agree, with the Alterations.

The Amendments and Alterations were read; and referred to Mr. Browne, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Corbett, Mr. Vassall, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Cage, Mr. Niclas, M. Noble: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Answer by the same Messengers;

They will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Holford's Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Andrew, Edward, John, Julius, Isabell, Jane, and Anne, Holford, Orphans, be referred to the Committee at Leicester: And they are to make Report: In the mean time, the Goods to be secured, according to the Petitioners Desire.

Yelverton's Pass.

Ordered, That Sir Christopher Yelverton shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to transport some Houshold Stuff into Holland, with his Sons, according to a Particular to be delivered, and mentioned in the Pass.

Money for Army, &c.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Vassall, Sir Henry Vane, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Henry Mildmay, are appointed to go into London this Afternoon, to stir up the City to use all Expedition in the providing and sending of Monies to the Army; and likewise, for the sending away Ten thousand Cloaths, or so many of them as are provided; and likewise, to consider of the speedy recruiting my Lord General's Army, to the end he may be enabled to march for the Relief of Gloucester; and to consider of all other Ways and Means for the Relief of Gloucester.


Mr. Browne, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Green;

This Committee is to consider, and put into the Form of an Ordinance, the Propositions now presented from the Commissioners for Excise; and to present the same to the House To-morrow: And it is especially recommended to Serjeant Wilde.

Debts for Customs.

Ordered, That Mr. Edmund Davy, Mr. Wm. Palgrave, and Mr. Anthony Barrctt, be forthwith sent for, by the Serjeant at Arms, in safe Custody; for refusing to pay the Monies they owe for Customs.

Payment of Fees.

Ordered, That Mr. Turner, Sir Robert Heathe's Man, Mr. Stretton, Servant to Sir John Bancks, and Mr. Gunnerie, one of the Officers in Sir Peter Osborne's Office, be required, upon Sight hereof, to pay the Monies in their Hands, belonging to the said Sir Robert Heath, Sir John Bancks, and Sir Peter Osbourne, as Fees for their Offices; or to be brought in safe Custody.

Ships going to Plantations.

Ordered, That this House doth declare, that they do not intend, by the general Order of Restraint of Persons going beyond Sea, to restrain any Ships, Persons, or Goods, going to New England, or to any other of the English Plantations: And that the Sarah, bound for New England, and all such other Persons, Ships, and Goods, bound as aforesaid, be permitted to pass accordingly.

Newgate Prison, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Prisoners, to consider of the Difference between the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs of London, about the Prison of Newgate, and Under Sheriff; and to report the same to the House.

Irish Report.

Ordered, That upon Friday Morning next the Irish Report be made unto the House.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That To-morrow Morning the Earl of Warwick's Letter be read; and that Mr. Green do report from the Committee of the Navy.

Young's Petition.

The humble Petition of Lewis Young was this Day read; complaining, that he was like to be arrested for Swords he bought for the Parliament's Service, and delivered accordingly.

Ordered, To be referred to the Cmmittee for the Safety, to take Course for the Payment of the Monies; and, in the mean time, all Proceedings against him for the said Debt to be stayed.

Sir W. waller.

Ordered, That Mr. Nicholl, Mr. Whaddon, and Mr. Buller, do go to my Lord General, to move him to grant a Commission to Sir Wm. Waller, according to the Desire of this House 8 Augusti instant.

Horses sent for.

Ordered, That the Four Horses which have lately passed the Court of Guard, informed to go to Oxford to the Earl of Lindsey, be forthwith sent for back again; and that a Squadron of Horses that attend the Guards do go and fetch them back.


  • 1. This appears to be Part of the preceding Matter, more correctly entered, and fairly transcribed, by a different Hand, in a Blank left in this Place.
  • 2. Immediately following this, in the original Journal, is an expunged Entry, relating to the Order of the House for the Imprisonment and Expulsion of Mr. Marten, for Words reflecting on the King and Royal Family, spoken by him, on Occasion of the Question put for the Commitment of Mr. Saltmarshe: Against which expunged Entry is wrote in the Margin, "Vacat' per Ordincm de 6 Fanuarii 1645. H.E." which is therefore here omitted.