House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 17 August 1643

Pages 208-209

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 17 Augusti, 1643.


Prisoners of War.

A LIST of Prisoners in London House was read; of such as are fit to serve the Parliament; and of such as are fit to be discharged, upon taking the Protestation.

Ordered, That such as are fit to serve the Parliament, and will serve the Parliament, shall be discharged; and those that are employed for Plymouth, shall have Power to take them with them, if they think fit; and that such as are not fit to serve the Parliament, shall be discharged, upon the taking the Protestation not to serve against the parliament.

Prisoner discharged.

Upon the humble Petition of Henry Askwith, a Prisoner in the Compter, Southwarke; acknowledging his Offence, and expressing his Sorrow for it; it is Ordered, That the said Henry Askwith be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint or Imprisonment.

Persons committed.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Tho. Hales, and his Son, and Mr. Dormer, sent up Prisoners by the Deputy Lieutenants and Committees of Kent, for being Actors in the late Insurrection in Kent, be forthwith committed Prisoners to Winchester House; there to remain as Prisoners during the Pleasure of the House.

Securing London, &c.

Mr. Nicholas reports, from the Committee, the Alterations and Amendments to the Ordinance for securing the Cities of London, Westminster, &c. The which were read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto, with the Addition of these Words, "of the House of Commons;" and ordered to be sent unto the Lords.


Mr. Serjeant Wilde reported, from the Committee, the Additions and Alterations to the additional Ordinance for Sequestrations: The which were read; and all but Three Amendments, one concerning the Oath to be exhibited to Persons suspected to be Papists, the other concerning the Power of the Committee of Accounts; the which Particulars this House adheres unto.

Sir Rob. Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the additional Ordinance for Sequestrations; the Ordinance for preserving and securing the Cities of London, Westminster, Suburbs, &c; so soon as shall stand with their Lordships Conveniency.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Nicholas, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Middlesex Committee.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Justinian Pagett, one of the Committees in the County of Middlesex, shall be discharged from being of that Committee.

Cambridge Committees.

Resolved, &c. That Robert Ibbitt, Christopher Mayes, George Felsteed, and John Lindsey, shall be added to the Committees for the Town of Cambridge for Sequestrations; and that Wm. Thompson shall be rectified, being mistaken, be made James Thompson.

Aylesbury Garison.

A Letter from the Garison of Aylesbury; concerning a Conspiracy by one Captain Topcliffe, and other neighbouring Ministers, to betray the Garison; was this Day read.

Naval Affairs.

A Letter from the Earl of Warrick, from Stokes Bay, of the Eleventh of August; representing the State of the particular Ships of the Fleet under his Command; was this Day read.

Commissioners of Customs.

Ordered, That the Commissioners and Collectors of the Customs do attend the House, To-morrow Morning, to resolve the House, whether they will forbear their own Salarage of Ten thousand Pounds, until the Year be ended; and likewise, to forbear their Reimbursements of the Twenty thousand Pounds, formerly lent this House, out of the Customs arising out of any of the East India Ships already, or now coming in.

Mr. Green to put the Propositions in Writing, to be propounded to the Commissioners and Collectors of the Customs.

Navy Supply.

Ordered, That the City be desired to lend Six thousand Pounds, of the Fifty they advance, to be employed towards the Supply of the Navy.

Old Customers Debts.

Ordered, That To-morrow Mr. Hoyle do present, in Writing, the State of the old Customers Debt; and that the Committee for their Accounts do meet this Afternoon.

Importing Currans.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Navy shall have Power to send for the Company of the Turkey Merchants; and to consult with them about the Importation of Currans; and to report it to the House.

Lords agree to Conference.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to grant a present Conference, by a Committee of the whole House, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Declaration to the States General.

Mr. Whittacre reports the Answer to the Exhibits presented by Sir Wm. Boswell to the States General of the United Provinces; which were re-committed, and now reported from the Re-commitment, and read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence: And was presently carried up to the Lords.

Mr. Whittacre went up to the Lords, to desire, that, at the Conference prayed by their Lordships, this House may have Liberty to communicate unto their Lordships a Declaration, to be sent to the States General of the United Provinces, concerning some Exhibits presented to the said States General, by Sir Wm. Boswell, his Majesty's Resident there.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Sir Edw. Leech;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Two Ordinances delivered at the last Conference.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message, and will give a present Meeting, at a Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Niclas, Reporters; Mr. Pym, Mr. Whittacre, Managers; of this Conference.

Mr. Whittacre brings Answer, that the Lords do agree, that, at this Conference, the Exhibits exhibited by Sir Wm. Boswell to the States General of the United Provinces, and the Declaration upon them . . . .

Prisoners discharged.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Prisoners, presently to discharge, from their Imprisonment, Peter Lea, and Jo. Stephens, Prisoners in Lambeth House, who are willing to take up Arms in the Parliament Service; and likewise, Wm. Allen, a Prisoner there, upon taking the Protestation enjoined by the Parliament; that he might return to his own Country.

Lords agree to Ordinance.

Mr. Nicholas reports, the Lords do agree to the Ordinance and Amendments he carried up.

Conference reported.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde reports the Conference this Day had with the Lords.

That the Lords were very far from trenching on the Rights of this House; and did acknowledge, that Matters of Money was to proceed from this House first: But as to this Particular, to join in the Disposal of the Monies mentioned in the Ordinance, they desire this House to remember, not only what hath been done formerly, but even this Parliament, Precedents of this kind: But, that for this particular Ordinance for Sequestrations, there is more Reason for this; because it is taken as a Judgment, or Penalty of both Houses, rather than a Supply.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords in the Amendments of this Ordinance, as it is sent down.


Upon Information unto this House, that the Committee at Lincolne had, for the Defence of that County, assessed Sir Jo. Brownlowe at One thousand Pounds; Sir Wm. Brownlowe Three hundred Pounds; Sir Tho. Trollopp Three hundred Pounds; Sir Ralph Maddison Three hundred Pounds; Mr. Edw. Maddison Three hundred Pounds; Sir Rob. Tharold Three hundred Pounds; Mr. Copledike One hundred and Fifty Pounds; Mr. Lister Two hundred Pounds (being Gentlemen of that County, that reside in these Parts, and have neglected to pay the said Proportions assessed upon them): It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, to call these Gentlemen before them; to the end they may pay their said Assessments.

Prisoners Composition.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Vane, Mr. Hill, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Recorder, and Mr. Solicitor, be added to the Committee for Composition for Prisoners; who are, in the first Place, to proceed with Sir Edward Hales and Sir George Sandys, for Composition: And that Mr. Prideaux do take the Chair.

Bishop of Cassell.

Ordered, That Licence be given to the Bishop of Cassell, his Wife, Children, and Servants, to pass beyond Sea.

Petit's, &c. Petition.

The Petition of Dominick Petit, and others, Engineers, was read; and referred to the Committee for the Navy; to bring in a Draught of an Ordinance.

Pass to go to Oxford.

Ordered, That * *, who hath the King's Evil, shall have a Pass to go to Oxford.

Prisoners of War.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Militia shall have Power to remove, from on Shipboard, such Prisoners as they shall think fit, to such Prisons as they shall appoint: And the Report from the Commissioners of the Admiralty is referred to that Committee.

Affairs in Norfolke, &c.

Ordered, That the Aid and Assistance of the Lord Fairfax shall be especially and respectively recommended to the Counties of Norfolke, Suffolke, Essex, and Lincolne. And the House doth declare, that it is and shall be held an acceptable Service, in any Man that will give any Assistance, in Men, Money, Plate, Horse, or Ammunition, to the said Lord Fairfax: And this House doth engage the publick Faith for Repayment. And this House doth further declare, that it shall be held an acceptable Service, in all such as have or shall encourage others to a chearful Assistance of the said Lord Fairfax.

And it is further Ordered, That Sir Wm. Constable Baronet, and such as he shall depute and appoint, shall have Power to receive the several Sums of Money, Plate, Horse, or Ammunition, subscribed, or to be hereafter subscribed, as abovesaid, within the several and respective Counties of Essexe, Suffolke, Norfolke, and Lincolne; and to apprise the said Horses; and to give Acquittances and Receipts for the same: Which Receipts shall be presented to the Treasurers at Guildhall, London, to be by the said Treasurers received, and entered, in as full and beneficial a Manner, as if the several Subscribers had actually paid in the several Sums subscribed unto the said Treasurers at Guildhall, London; whereby, Contributors may have the Security of the publick Faith for their Repayment, as was, upon the former Propositions for the Subscriptions of Money, Horse, and Plate, &c. The which Monies, Plate, and Horse, the said Sir Wm.Constable, or his Deputies, shall discharge themselves of, by Order from the Lord Fairfax, according to the several Subscriptions, and the Intents of the Subscribers therein.

Levying Money in London.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Levies of Monies, within the City of London, be re-committed; and that Serjeant Wilde, and Mr. Recorder, do bring in a Proviso for the exempting the Members and Assistants of both Houses, and such Persons as are fled here to the City, and are plundered for their good Affections, or Conformity to the Commands of the Parliament.