House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 12 October 1643

Pages 274-275

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 12 Octobris, 1643.


Letter read.

A LETTER from Colonel Massie, Governor of Gloucester, to Mr. Pym, of the Third of October, was this Day read.

Roche's Petition.

The humble Petition of David Roche Esquire, late of the City of Limerick in Ireland, was this Day read; concerning Debts owing unto him upon Specialities; and desiring, that he may have Liberty and Warrant to seize the Goods of such as he knows to be in actual Rebellion in Ireland:

And it is Ordered, That it be referred to the Consideration and Examination of the Committee for Gloucester.

Army Supplies.

Mr. Pym, Sir Hen. Mildmy, Colonel Long, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Sir Jo. Curson, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Lisle, Sir Walth. Erle, Sir Rob. Pye, Sir Oliver Luke, Mr. Edw. Ashe, Sir Hen. Heyman;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are enjoined forthwith to take care for the present Supply of my Lord General's Army; and presently to go into the City of London, for the Advancement of that Service, with all Advantages that may be; and to consult with my Lord General concerning this Business, as there is Occasion: And are to give an Account unto the House on Monday Morning: And have Power to send for Parties and Writings &c.

Sir Gilb. Gerard, Mr. Rob. Goodwyn, Sir Jo. Corbett, Sir Hen. Vane, Sir R. Onsloe, Mr. Drake, Mr. Wallop, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Mr. Heveningam, Mr. Noble, Sir John Franklin;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are appointed to consider of all Ways and Means how the Army may be constantly supplied with Monies, Arms, Ammunition, and all other Things necessary for that Army: And this to be done with the greatest Ease that may be to the Country: And have Power to consult with my Lord General upon all Occasions: And are to meet at Two a Clock this Afternoon, in the Court of Wards; and so from time to time, as they shall think fit: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, and Writings: And are .... to the House on Monday next. And the Care of this Order is recommended to Mr. Rob. Goodwyn.

Sir Hen. Vane, Mr. Recorder, Colonel Venn, Sir Nevile Pool;

This Committee is to meet, and join with the Committee of the Militia, to take Order for speedy raising present Forces, to be sent forth with my Lord General; and to consider of all Ways and Means conducing to that End; and to sit constantly, till the Service be done.

Forts and Garisons.

Sir Hen. Vane, Mr. Pym, Mr. Rous, Mr. Holland, Mr. Trenchard, Sir Hen. Mildmy, Mr. Bond, Mr. Recorder;

This Committee is appointed to sit constantly, to consider of the State of the old Forts and Garisons, and the new Forts and Garisons; and to make a State of them: And to give an Account what will be the Charge of maintaining them, and how far forth the old Forts and Garisons may be maintained out of the King's Revenue, from this Time forwards; and by what Ways and Means the new Garisons, may be most conveniently maintained: And to send for Parties, Witnesses, &c.

Money for Scots.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to raise Monies for the Scots, shall have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, and to consider of, and do, all other Matters that may conduce to that Service: And it is left to that Committee, from time to time, as any considerable Sum shall come into their Hands, to return it to the Committee in Scotland, either by Bill of Exchange, or in Specie, as they shall think fit.


A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfeild..... The Lords do resolve to adjourn their House, until Monday Morning next; and hold it fit to acquaint this House therewith.

Resolved, &c. That this House shall, from the rising of it, adjourn itself till Monday Morning, Eight of Clock.

Sir Walter Erle went up to the Lords, to acquaint them therewith.

Loan by Merchant Adventurers.

Ordered, That the Thirty thousand Pounds, advanced by way of Loan at Eight per Cent. upon the Security of the Excise, by the Fellowship of Merchant Adventurers of England, shall be forthwith paid unto Sir Henry Vane jun. Knight, Treasurer of the Navy, or to his Assigns, for the Use of the Navy: Whose Receipt, with this Order, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Fellowship.

Walker's Petition.

The humble Petition of Clement Walker Esquire, committed by the Lords to the Tower, was this Day read; and referred to Mr. Maynard, Mr. Whitlock, Mr. Selden, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Henry Ludlow, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Hill, Mr. Samuel Browne, Mr. Millington, and Sir Henry Cholmeley, or any Four of them: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Star Chamber, to consider and examine the Matter of Fact in Mr. Walker's Petition: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c. And are to make Report of it on Monday Morning.

Affairs of Cambridge.

Ordered, That the Letter from the Committee at Cambridge, of the Tenth of October; and the particular Gentleman that is come up to give private Informations of the State of all Matters there; be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of supplying my Lord General's Army.

Spanish Merchants.

Ordered, That the Petition of Francis D'Allicant, Spanish Master of the Ship the Clara et Diego de Axcaray, and Ignatius de Llandaholæ, Spanish Merchants; and likewise the Petition of Francis De Allicant, Spanish Master of the Ship the Clara; and the Spanish Merchants which came in her; be referred to the Committee for the Navy, where Sir Henry Vane has the Chair.

East India Company.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Governor and Company of Merchants of London, trading into the East Indies, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Navy, where Sir Henry Vane has the Chair.

Pass for Lord Castleton.

Ordered, That the Lord Viscount Castleton shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go beyond Seas, with Three Servants, and his necessary Baggage; provided he carry no prohibited Goods.

Money for Scotts.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed for raising of Monies for the Scotts, shall have Power to present the Names of such Persons as they shall think fit and able to lend Monies for that Service, within the Cities of London and Westminster, and Parishes within the Bills of Mortality; and an Ordinance for the borrowing of such Sums of Money of them, as shall be thought fit to be assessed upon them by Ordinance of both Houses: And are to give an Account hereof, on Monday Morning.

Ordered, That Forty thousand Pounds shall be assigned to the Scotts, out of the Sequestration Monies; provided that this Assignment shall not prejudice any former Assignation out of those Monies, or any Order formerly charged upon those Monies.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Navy do sit constantly, upon the setting forth of the Winter Guard; and do take care, that no Monies assigned for the Navy be employed to any other Purpose.


Ordered, That the Committee for Sequestrations do constantly meet, during this Adjournment, to put that Ordinance in Execution; and to give an Account of the State of that Business, on Monday Morning.


Ordered, That the Committee for the Excise do meet constantly, during the Adjournment; and give an Account to this House of the State of that Business, on Monday Morning.


This House doth declare, by Vote upon the Question, That the Estates of such Persons formerly sequestred, who have since died in actual War against the Parliament, shall still remain and continue under Sequestration, until the House take further Order.

Sir Christopher Yelverton is appointed to signify thus much to the Committee at Northampton.

Martial Law.

Sir Henry Mildmay and Sir Christopher Yelverton are appointed to go to my Lord General, to desire his Excellency to issue forth a Commission for the Trial of Offenders by martial Law; and to represent unto his Excellency the great Expectation and Desire of the City and Kingdom that Justice should be done.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page;

The Lords do agree to the Order for the Assembly to proceed upon the Liturgy and Church Government; and have taken Order to send it unto them.

They do likewise agree, that a Great Seal of England shall be forthwith made, to attend the Parliament, for Dispatch of the Affairs of the Parliament and Kingdom.

Great Seal.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the Great Seal do meet constantly from time to time, during the Adjournment, to consider of Matters, according to the Order of that Committee.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That my Lord Lisle shall have Leave to go into the Country, and to be absent from the Service of the House, for a time.

The Covenant.

Ordered, That the Covenant be read the next Lord's Day, in all the Parishe Churches in London, Westminster, and Bills of Mortality: And that the Assembly of Divines be desired to take care, that in such Parishes where the Ministers are backward, or refuse to tender or take the Covenant, or to instruct the People, that they appoint some of themselves to preach there, and instruct the People, and tender the Covenant to such as have not taken it.

Martial Law.

Sir Christopher Yelverton reports, That the Committee had attended my Lord General, and acquainted him with the Desires of this House, to give a standing Commission for Trial of Offenders by a Council of War: His Excellency answered, It was not his Fault, that the Trial of such have not been sooner done: But, for such Delinquents as are apprehended, and were Commanders of some Forces under Command of his Excellency, he conceives, they ought to be tried by a Council of War of Officers of his Army: But, for such as are Conspirators, and bear no Office in the Army, or under his Excellency, he will grant a standing Commission to try them, in such manner as formerly they have been.