House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 16 October 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, 16 Octobris, 1643.


Affairs in Kent.

SIR Hen. Vane, Sir Rob. Pye, Sir Beauchamp St. John, Mr. Rich. Browne, Sir Tho. Walsingham, Sir Rich. Onslowe, Sir Wm. Strickland, Sir Edw. Patheriche, Mr. Knightley, Sir Anth. Irby, Mr. Solicitor, Colonel Morley, Sir Gilb. Gerard, Sir Wm. Allanson, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir Dud. North;

This Committee is appointed to examine the State and Matter of Offence of Hawkes and Terry; and the Occasion and Ground of their being sent for up: And are to examine the State of the Difference between some of the Deputy Lieutenants of Kent; and to summon them up; and to take Examination of the Ground of that Difference: And the said Hawkes and Terry are to depart, and not to be reputed as Delinquents, till, after further Examination of this Business, their Delinquency appear: And the said Hawkes and Terry are to come up upon the Summons of the said Committee: And this Committee is to meet on Monday next, at Two post Meridiem, in the Court of Star Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records. And the Examination of the Business concerning a Hundred Pounds, received upon a counterfeit Warrant by one that pretends himself to be a Messenger of Parliament, is referred to this Committee.

Deputy Lieutenants of Kent.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Sir Wm. Springate, Sir Nicholas Miller, Ralph Welden, and Wm. Boothby, Esquires, to be Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Kent: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Town of Plymouth.

Ordered, That it be especially recommended unto the Committee for the Militia of the City of London, as a Business of a very high Importance, to provide forthwith the Four thousand Pounds formerly assigned and promised for the Town of Plymouth: And Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Whaddon, Colonel Venn, and Mr. Rolle, are appointed to go to the City with this Order; and to solicit the speedy Provision of the said Monies.

Ordered, That it be referred and recommended to the Committee of the Navy, to provide Two hundred Barrels of Powder for the Town of Plymouth, if possible they can provide so many; or otherwise, so many as with any Conveniency they can provide.

League and Covenant.

Sir John Merrick, Sir Richard Wynne, Captain Charles Pym, Sir Ambrose Browne, this Day took and subscribed the solemn League and Covenant.

Ordered, That the Assembly of Divines do return a Certificate to this House, of such Members of the Assembly as have not taken the solemn League and Covenant.

Ordered, That the like Order as has formerly passed for taking the solemn League and Covenant in the Parish Churches of London, Westminster, Liberties and Parishes within the Bills of Mortality, and in the Collegiate Church of Westminster, be forthwith printed and published: And that Mr. Tuckney of Beste be desired to preach at St. Margaret's, Westminster, on Friday next, to open the Covenant, and to tender it to such Officers and Gentlemen as shall voluntarily come to receive the same.

Repairing the House.

Ordered, That the King's Surveyor be required to new-matt the House of Commons; and to provide and do other Things necessary for the trimming and repairing the House, and Places about the House, as there shall be Occasion.

League and Covenant.

Ordered, That such Members of the House as have not yet taken the solemn League and Covenant, do take and subscribe the same on Thursday next; which Day is appointed a peremptory Day for the taking and subscribing the same by such Members.

French Ambassador.

Ordered, That the French Ambassador, who is stayed at the Court of Guard, be forthwith dismissed; and that Mr. Hollis, Sir H. Vane, and Sir Arth. Heselrig, do forthwith go to the French Ambassador, and excuse the Matter of the Stay; and inquire the Reason and Grounds of it.

Money for Scotch Assistance.

An Ordinance for the Repayment of all such Sums of Money, as are or shall be lent, by any Person or Persons, for the speedy bringing in of our Brethren of Scotland into this Realm, for our Assistance in this present War, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence: And was carried up by Mr. Reynolds.

Sir J. Goodrick.

Sir H. Cholmeley acquainted the House, That whereas his Excellency had formerly laid his Restraint upon the Exchange of Sir Jo. Goodrick, that he has now taken off that Restraint, and leaves him to the Disposal of the House, according to their former Orders.

Arrear of Money.

Ordered, by the and Commons, That the Committee of Lords and Commons, for Advance of Monies, shall have Power to use all fit Means for the collecting and bringing in of the Monies in Arrear upon the several and respective Ordinances, by Distress, of Imprisonment; according to the said several and respective Ordinances carried up by Mr. Reynolds.

Associated Counties.

Ordered, That the Committee of Bedford, and the Committee for the associated Counties, do speak with my Lord General this Afternoon; to receive Directions for the Security of the County of Bedford, and the associated Counties.

French Ambassador.

Captain Vaughan, who had made Stay of the French Ambassador at the Courts of Guard, was called in: And acquainted the House, That the Ambassador coming to the Court of Guard, he permitted his Followers to pass according to his Passes; and, as he was passing them, Information came unto them, that there were Letters laid up and concealed in that Seat where he himself sat: That, thereupon, he desired he would come forth, that that Seat might be searched: Which he refused: And that afterwards he was informed, that a Servant of his had put a Letter into his Breeches: Which he demanding, the Servant delivered it unto the Ambassador; who immediately tore it. The Letter was directed to the Earl of Dover.

Committees added.

Ordered, That Mr. Sanders be added to the Committee of the County of Derby.

Ordered, That Mr. Jo. Hatcher be added to the Committee of Rutlandshire.

Lord Butler's Estate.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and Serjeant Finche;

That the Lords have sent down a Petition of my Lord Edw. Howard; shewing, that there remaineth of the Lord Butler's Estate * per Annum; praying, that in regard of his Relation to the young Lord Butler, who is Non compos mentis, he may have the Care of the Person and Estate: And do recommend it to this House, with their Declaration, That they conceive it fit my Lord Howard should have his Desires granted unto him: And desire the Concurrence of this House.

The Petition was read: And

It is Ordered, That the Trust and Guardianship of the now Lord Boteler, and his Estate, be transferred over to the Petitioner, according to the Petitioner's Desire; he accounting for the Surplusage.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message, and Petition; and do agree, that the Guardianship and Trust should be transferred, as is desired.

Isle of Wight.

A Message from the Lords, by Justice Reeves and Justice Bacon;

The Lords have received, from the Isle of Wight, this Petition; which they conceive to be a Matter of great Consequence; and refer it to the speedy Consideration of this House.

French Ambassador.

Mr. Holles, upon the Report from the French Ambassador, and upon his Desire, went up to the Lords, to desire, that Sir Peter. Killigrew might be sent by both Houses with the French Ambassador to Oxon, to see that he may have such Respects and Usage upon his Way, in his Journey, as is fitting for a Personage of so great Honour and Quality; provided that Sir Peter Killigrew carry no Letter, or other Matter, as may be prejudicial to the Parliament.

Assembly of Divines.

He likewise carried up to the Lords the Vote for admitting Mr. Cawdrey into the Assembly, in the Place of Dr. Harris, Warden of Winchester College.

Isle of Wight.

The humble Petition of the Inhabitants of the Isle of Wight, was this Day read.

Ordered, That the Committee, or any Two of them, appointed for the Isle of Wight, shall have Power to send such Persons, out of the Isle of Wight, as they shall think fit, for the Security of that Place; and to secure the said Persons, in such manner as they shall think fit.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Earl of Warwick, to send some Ships of Strength speedily, for the Safety of the Isle of Wight.

Ordered, That Mr. Lisle do bring in an Ordinance for the raising of Men to be employed for the Service and Security of the Isle of Wight, and Hurst Castle.

Colonel Carne, Lieutenant Governor of the Isle of Wight, was called in: And, after he had delivered what he thought necessary for Defence of the said Isle, Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, acquainted him with the Desire of this House, that he should repair forthwith to his Charge; his Presence being so necessary to the Safety of that Place: And did give him Thanks for his Care and Fidelity in the guarding of that Place.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the sending of Sir Peter Killigrew with the French Ambassador: And likewise, to the admitting of Mr. Cawdrey into the Assembly of Divines, in the Place and Stead of Dr. Harris, Warden of Winchester College.

French Ambassador.

Mr. Corbett is appointed to give Order to the Captain that stayed the French Ambassador's Waggons and Trunks, forthwith to discharge them.

Horses for Army.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed on Thursday last for Supply of my Lord General's Army, do forthwith take care, that Horses be provided for recruiting my Lord General's Army, according to the Proportion already set upon the several Counties; and so from time to time for the future.

Sir Phil. Stapleton, Sir Sam. Luke, Sir Arth. Hasclrigg, Colonel Long, Mr. Tate, Sir Jo. Curson, are added to this Committee: And all that will come, are to have Voices: And to meet when and where they please.

London Arrears.

Ordinance for the more speedy raising of the Monies formerly imposed, and yet unpaid, within the City of London, and Liberties thereof, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Glocester Garison.

Mr. Pury reports from the Committee for Glocester. . . .

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House shall borrow the Two thousand Pounds of the Monies set apart for the purchasing of Lands remaining in the Hands of the Receiver at Sutton's Hospital, and in the Iron Chest there in his Custody, upon the publick Faith; to be employed for the Garison of Glocester: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired: And Mr. Pury is to bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

Irish Affairs.

Articles of Cessation with the bloody Rebels in Ireland, by Commission from his Majesty, were read: Whereupon it was Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor, Sir Hen. Vane, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Hen. Mildmy, Sir Rob. Goodwyn, Sir Martin Lister, Mr. Pury, Mr. Browne, Mr. Greene, Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Hatcher, Mr. Rolls, Sir Pet. Wentworth, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Ashurst, Mr. Lile, Mr. Bence;

This Committee, or any Five of them, is to consider what is fit to be done upon the Articles of Cessation with the Irish Rebels; and how Provisions may be sent over to the Protestant Party in Ireland: And are to advise with my Lord of Warwicke, what Shipping is necessary to be provided, for the stopping of Provision for going to the Rebels; and to prevent their coming over; and to consider of all other Things, that may conduce to the Relief of the Protestant Forces in Ireland: And have Power, from time to time, upon all Occasions, to advise with the Scotch Commissioners concerning this Business: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Four Clock, in the Star Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, and Writings.

Ordered, That the Scotch Commissioners be made acquainted with the Articles of Cessation of Arms with the Rebels in Ireland: And that Order may be taken the Covenant be taken by all the Officers, Soldiers, and Protestants of their Nation, in Ireland: As likewise, this House will take care, that the English Protestants, Commanders, and Officers in Ireland, shall take the Covenant also.

Grant to Jennings.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety: and the Committee for Perusal of their Warrants; do grant their Warrants for the Payment of Twenty Pounds to Mr. Theodore Jennings, that brought the first Intelligence of the great Defeat given the Cavaliers in Lincolneshire.

Glocester Garison.

Resolutions of the Committee for the Garison of Glocester, presented to the House; and, upon the Question, assented unto, as followeth;

1. That One hundred Barrels of Powder, with Match proportionably, be sent from hence to Gloucester with the Forces to be raised for that Garison.

2. That Six hundred Musquets, Swords, Belts, and Bandaleers, with Sweds Feathers, be also provided, and sent with the said Forces to the said Garison.

3. That One hundred Case of Pistols, and One hundred Carbines, be also sent out of the Magazine here, to the said City of Gloucester.

4. That Waggons be provided for the Carriages; and to obtain a Warrant from his Excellency to press Horses for the drawing of them.

5. That a Commission of Martial Law be desired for the Garison of Gloucester, to be directed to Field Officers, and to such other Gentlemen as shall be appointed by this House, by way of Recommendation to his Excellency.

Scotch Reformadoes.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the Supply of my Lord General's Army, to consider of the Petition of the Scotts Reformado Officers, what their Arrears are, and what Debts of theirs are most necessary to be paid before they are employed; and to present to the House, out of what Monies such Sums may be paid, as will enable them to do Service to the State: And Sir Philip Stapleton is to present to my Lord, General a List of the Scotts Reformadoes, that they may be forthwith employed.

Letters of Mart.

Ordered, That Mr. Greene do bring in an Ordinance To-morrow for enabling Men to go to Sea with Letters of Mart.

Committee for Excise, &c.

Ordered, That the Chairman for the Committee for Excise and Sequestrations, and all other publick Affairs, do report To-morrow to the House.

Associated Counties.

Ordered, That Mr. Corbett do go to my Lord General, and acquaint him what Danger the Five associated Counties are in, if the King's Forces in Bedfordshire do advance.

Earl of Manchester.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth declare, that the Earl of Manchester shall have the Allowance of a Serjeant Major General, from the Time he undertook that Command.


Ordered, That the Clerk do find out the Ordinance for Saltpetre.

Letter read.

A Letter from the Earl of Dorsett, to my Lord Say, dated at Oxforde 10 Oct instant, was read.

Persons to attend.

Ordered, That the Lord Buckhurst be summoned forthwith to attend the House.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Hobbard be required to attend the House: and that Mr. Lisle do write to him for that. Purpose.

Lady Hotham.

Ordered, That the Lady Hotham be permitted to come up to London, according to the former Order.

Preventing Intelligence.

Ordered, That the Lords be desired to hasten the passing of the Ordinance to prevent Intelligence; and that Mr. Bainton do go with this Message to the Lords.

Quartering Soldiers.

Ordered, That Sir Gilb. Gerard, Mr. Ashurste, and Mr. Millington, do receive Propositions for the more easy quartering Soldiers.

Stamp's Sequestration.

Whereas Timothy Stamp Esquire, Steward of the Manors of Stepney, alias Stebeneth, and Hackney, in the County of Middlesex, hath, this present Parliament, been accused for several great Misdemeanors; and, upon Examination thereof, was by the House of Commons committed to the Serjeant at Arms; out of whose Custody he made an Escape to Oxford; and hath long since, and still is in actual Rebellion against the King and Parliament, and yet, notwithstanding, doth still, by his Deputy, and Deputies, officiate his said Stewardship; and doth receive the Profits thereof: The Commons, now assembled in Parliament, having taken the same into Consideration, have therefore.

Declared and Ordered, That the said Timothy Stamp, his Deputy and Deputies, shall and do from henceforth stand and be sequestred from the said Stewardship, and from the Execution thereof: And that Nathaniel Snape Esquire, Utter Barrister of Gray's Inn, (of whose Ability and Integrity they are well satisfied) shall be, and is hereby appointed and authorized to execute and officiate the said Office of Stewardship, by himself, his sufficient Deputy or Deputies, for the Manors aforesaid, in the Room and Place of the said Timothy Stamp: And that the said Nathaniel Snape shall have and receive all the Fees, Profits, and Emoluments, whatsoever, to the said Office belonging, or any ways appertaining, in such Sort and Manner as any Steward of the said Manors hath formerly done, or been accustomed to do; any Patent or Grant to the said Timothy Stamp formerly made to the contrary notwithstanding.

And it is further Ordered, That the said Nathaniel Snape, his Deputy, or Deputies, shall, by virtue of this Order, have Power to call before him the Tenants, Bailiffs, or any other Officer or Officers of the said Manors, or either of them; and to send for, and take into his Custody, any Books, Court Rolls, and Copies of Court Rolls, and any other Writings, to the said Office of Stewardship belonging.

And it is also Ordained, That the said Nathaniel Snape, and the Tenants, Bailiffs, and other Officers, belonging to the said Manors, shall have the Protection of this House for their Indemnity, in every Act and Thing which shall be done by them, or any of them, in or concerning the Execution of the said Office of Stewardship: And therefore the Tenants, Bailiffs, and Officers, of the Manors aforesaid, are hereby required to yield Obedience and Conformity, in their several and respective Places, to the said Nathaniel Snape, in the Execution of the said Office.