Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Martis, 12 Decembris, 1643.
Advance to Captain Pym.
ORDERED, That the Committee, at Haberdashers Hall, do forthwith advance, by way of Loan, unto Captain Alexander Pym, Two hundred Pounds, to be deducted out of the Arrears due unto the said Captain Alexander Pym, for his Entertainment, so soon as he shall have perfected and passed his Account.
An Ordinance for raising of Forces, and Monies for Maintenance of the said Forces, within the County of Middlesex, for Defence of the said County, was this Day read the First.
A Letter from the Committee in Kent, representing the Backwardness and Disaffection of Sir F. Barnham to the Defence of his County, as the Letter expresses, was this Day read: And it is Ordered, That Mr. Tate and Mr. Noble do forthwith acquaint Sir Francis Barnham with this Letter; and bring his Answer this Morning.
Scandalous Clergymen, &c.
An Ordinance concerning giving Power to the Earl of Manchester and Committee, for proceeding against all scandalous, malignant, and ill-affected Clergymen, Scholars, Fellows of Colleges, and Schoolmasters, within the associated Counties, was this Day read the First time.
A Letter from the Earl of Manchester to the House of Peers, of the Twenty-seventh of November; and a Petition from the Scholars and Fellows of Trinity, concerning the Sequestration of their Rents and Revenues (sent down from the Lords by a Message) were this Day read.
Debt to Strode.
Whereas Wm. Strode Esquire, one of the Members of the House of Commons, did, upon the Thirtieth of June 1642, lend to the State upon the.... Fifty Pounds, to be repaid at the End of Six Months; the which Fifty Pounds was received by the Treasurers upon the Propositions; as appears by an Acquittance under the Hands of the said Treasurers of the Thirtieth of June: It is this Day Ordered, by the and Commons, that the said Fifty Pounds be forthwith repaid unto the said Wm. Strode, by the said Treasurers, out of the first Monies that shall come in upon the Fifth, and Twentieth Part, notwithstanding any other Order or Ordinance to the contrary.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Scandalous Clergymen, &c.
The Ordinance abovesaid, concerning the Proceeding against scandalous, malignant, and ill-affected Clergymen, Scholars, and Schoolmasters, within the associated Counties, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Lucas, Mr. Cage, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Corbett, * Reynolds, * Selden, * Prideaux, * Sir H. Vane, * Dewes, * Wheeler, * Wentworth, the Knights and Burgesses of the associated Counties: Who are likewise to consider of the Letter from the Earl of Manchester, touching Trinity College, and the Petition from Trinity College; And are to meet on Thursday, in the Afternoon, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.
A Letter from the Committee at Rochester, of the Thirtieth of November, complaining of Mr. Rob. Fowler of Rochester; who has a Place in the King's Ships; one in the Tower; another in the Custom-house at Rochester: And
It is Ordered, That it be referred to my Lord Admiral, to consider of him, and his Delinquency, and Illaffection to the Parliament, as to that Place in the Navy; to the Lieutenant of the Ordinance, as to his Place in the Tower; to the Committee of the Navy, as to his Place in the Custom-house.
Customer in Rochester.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to consider of Mr. Philip Ward, for the Customer's Place in Rochester.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Hen. Anderson be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Tower; there to remain a Prisoner during the Pleasure of the House, for deserting the Service of the House, and going unto, and assisting, the Enemy.
A Letter from Sir Wm. Armyn and the rest of the Commissioners in Scotland, dated 30 Novembris, 1643, at Edenbrough, was read; shewing the distressed Condition of the Scottish Army in Ulster in Ireland: And likewise a Letter from Colonel Wm. Stewart, Sir Fred. Hambleton, and other Commanders, dated 8 Novembris last, at Londonderry, was likewise read; complaining of their Wants; and also expressing their Resolution to prosecute the War against the Rebels.
The Demands of the Officers of the Scottish Army in Ireland, delivered to the English Commissioners by the Committee of the Convention of Estates of Scotland, in the Presence of some Officers from the Scottish Army, of the 27th of November; the Commissioners Answer to the said Demands; the Result of the Committees of both Kingdoms, upon the Debate of the Demands of the Officers of the Scottish Army in Ireland; were all this Day read.
Ordered, That this Dispatch from the English Commissioners now in Scotland, touching the Scottish Army, and British Forces, in Ireland, be referred to the Committee for the Scotts Affairs that sits at Goldsmiths Hall; and to the Committee of Irish Adventurers of this House, and of London: Who are to meet upon it on Thursday next at Eight of Clock, at Goldsmiths Hall, to consider what Possibility there is of performing the Propositions propounded in that Dispatch, touching the Supply of Money, Cloaths, Meal, and Arms; and to consult by what Means those Supplies may be made; and to report their Opinions touching those Supplies to the House.
Sir F. Barnham.
Mr. Tate reports from Sir F. Barnham, That Sir Francis was willing, and did desire, to express all good Affections to the Service of the Parliament: That his Land in the Country was liable, and paid all Taxes: That he had contributed an Hundred Pounds upon the Propositions; and was willing to contribute a Hundred Mark upon this Occasion of Kent.
Message from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and Serjeant Finche;
Whereas the Lords did formerly nominate a Committee of their House, of Five; and this House did agree in appointing a Committee of a proportionable Number; to take care of Plymouth, Poole, and Lyme: The Lords have now added one Lord more to that Committee; and desire this House would add a proportionable Number.
They have appointed Mr. Bolles to execute the Office of the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery; and desire your Concurrence: And do agree to the Ordinance for Windesore Garison, with some Amendments.
Mr. Erisey, Mr. Holles, are added to the Committee for Plymouth, Lyme, and Poole.
Clerk of the Crown.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree to Mr. Bolles, to execute the Office of the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery.
The Amendments to the Order for Windesore Garison were read; and assented unto.
Two Letters from the Committee of Kent at Westram, concerning the Loss of Arundell, and the King's Forces being in Sussex.
Ordered, That these Letters from the Committee at Westram, be referred to the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom.
It is likewise referred to them, to consider of the whole Business concerning the Loss of Arundell Castle.
Committee of Safety.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee of the Safety shall sit every Afternoon at Three of Clock constantly: The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That Mr. Tate be added to the Committee of the Safety of the Kingdom.
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: And do agree to the Amendments to the Ordinance for the Garison of Windesore; to Mr. Bolles to execute the Place of Clerk of the Crown in Chancery; and have added a proportionable Number to the Committee for Plymouth, &c.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Knightly is appointed to carry up to the Lords the Ordinance, to constitue Sir Walt. Erle Lieutenant of the Ordinance: The Order concerning the Isle of Wight: And was to acquaint the Lords, that this House has appointed the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, to sit every Afternoon, at Three of Clock: And have added Mr. Tate to the Committee of the Safety; and desire the Lords Concurrence herein.
Advance to Cooper.
Ordered, That Sir Gilb. Gerard do forthwith advance unto Captain Cooper, who is presently to be employed into Kent, the Sum of Thirty Pounds; and to repay himself the like Sum, out of the first Monies that comes to his Hands from the Treasurers at Guildhall: Or, in the Absence of Sir G. Gerard, that the Committee at Haberdashers Hall do lend the said Sum of Thirty Pounds, to be advanced to Captain Cooper, as aforesaid, out of the Monies that come in upon the Twentieth, and Fifth Part: And this House will order the said Sum to be repaid unto them.
A Letter from the Governor of Plymouth, and another from the Governor, Colonel Gold, they Mayor, and others, of the Fifth of December, both relating some good Success they have had against the Forces before the Town; and likewise setting forth the Condition they are in; were read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee for Plymouth, &c.
Recruiting the Army.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
The House was turned into a Grand Committee, to consider of the Ordinance for recruiting my Lord General's Army.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Mr. Pury reports from the Grand Committee. . . .
Ordered, That the several Votes of the Grand Committee, to which the Ordinance for recruiting my Lord General's Army, was committed, shall be reported Tomorrow the first Business; and no other Motion to intervene.
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Knightley brings Answer, That, as to the Order for the Lieutenant of the Ordinance, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
They agree to the Ordinance for the Isle of Wight.
They agree to Mr. Tate's being of the Committee for the Safety.
They agree to the Committee of the Safety to sit every Afternoon at Three of Clock.
Sir Henry Anderson was brought in to the Bar: And, kneeling there, Mr. Speaker acquainted him with the Opinion of the House, for committing him Prisoner to the Tower; for deserting the Service of the Parliament, the Good of Religion, and the Kingdom, and adhering to the Enemy.
Resolved, &c. That the Lieutenant of the Tower shall allow Sir Henry Anderson Forty Shillings by the Week, to be paid out of his Estate, when it can be recovered.
The Petition of Captain John Bladwell, desiring an Arrear due unto him, by Contract and Order of the Committee, was this Day read; and nothing, at this time, done upon it.
Loan from Danvers.
Whereas Captain William Danvers is willing to lend One thousand Pounds, for the buying of Arms and Ammunition for my Lord Gray, for the present Defence of the County of Leicester, and other the Counties within his Association: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, as soon as the Ordinances granted unto Mr. Ashe and Mr. Estwick, and their Partners, and to other Persons, are satisfied those Sums mentioned in the said Ordinances; that then the said Committee at Haberdashers Hall shall pay the Sum of One thousand Pounds to the Treasurers at Guildhall, London; who are hereby required to pay the same to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars; who is hereby required to pay the said One thousand Pounds to Captain Danvers, or his Assigns, in lieu of the One thousand Pounds disbursed by him, as aforesaid. And the said Lords and Commons do Order, That no Ordinance of Parliament shall intervene for Payment of any Monies, next after Mr. Ash and Mr. Estwick, and the Persons aforesaid, be paid, till the said Captain Danver be paid his said Thousand Pounds.