House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 29 January 1644

Pages 379-381

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, 29 Januarii, 1643.


Trial of Delinquents.

THE humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council, of the City of London; desiring, That all Monies, &c. may be brought to just Accompt; and that all Delinquents may be brought to a speedy Trial; was this Day read.

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Selden, and Mr. Brawne, do meet, and consider of the Ways and Means of trying of Delinquents; and report it to the House; that it may be carried to the Lords at a Conference.

Courts at Westminster.

Ordered, That the several Judges of the several Courts of Westminster be enjoined, and hereby required, not to adjourn any of the Courts of Westminster, for any longer Time than for a Day; nor from Westminster; without the Consent of both Houses of Parliament.

This Order to be sent presently to the Judges by Sir Rob. Harley: And the Lords Concurrence to be desired herein; and Mr. Hill to carry it up.

Army Affairs.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Militia in London be desired to nominate Four expert Persons to the House, to be sent down by the House to my Lord General's Army, to muster the Army, according to the Articles agreed on in April last, and since amended by the House; and to see the Army paid accordingly: And to certify the House of Commons the Strength and Condition of the Army, and all Defects in Arms; and that my Lord General be desired to grant a Commission unto them accordingly.

The Militia of London is further desired to make choice of Four other Persons, to do the like in Sir Wm. Waller's Brigade.

Dowse's Arrears.

Ordered, That Captain Dowse shall have an Hundred Pounds allowed unto him, upon Account, in Part of the Arrear due unto him for his Entertainment in Ireland, out of the Monies that shall come in from such as have brought in Currans since the Ordinance prohibiting the Importation of Currans.

Importing Currans.

Ordered, That the Report of such as have brought in Currans since the Ordinance made prohibiting the Importation of Currans, be referred to the Committee for Reformado Soldiers: Who are to call before them the Persons interessed; and to receive their Answers, and to cause the Monies to be levied: and to report the same to the House.

Ordered, That, at the next Message, the Lords be desired to make the Penalty upon the Hundred of Currans imported since the Ordinance, Six Shillings, according to the Ordinance: and to amend the Mistake of Six Shillings and Eight-pence.

Mr. Bainton to carry up this to the Lords.

Reformado Soldiers.

Ordered, That the Committee for Reformado Soldiers do meet--any Four of them.

Aylisbury Garison.

Ordered, That the Lord Admiral be desired to spare Twenty Barrels of Powder, and Two Ton of Match, out of the Navy Stores in the Tower, for the present Use of the Garison at Aylisbury: And that the said Twenty Barrels of Powder, and Two Ton of Match, shall be supplied out of the Monies that come in upon the Currans imported since the Ordinance made that prohibited the Importation of Currans.

Ordered, That

Demi Culverin of Iron, - - - - 5
Sacre Shot, - - - - - - 150
Demi Culverin Shot, - - - - 100
Minion Shot, - - - - - - 50

be delivered out of the publick Magazine in the Tower, for the present Use of the Garison at Aylisbury.

Ordered, That the Surplusage and Remainder of the Monies that shall arise upon the Currans imported since the Ordinance made prohibiting the Importation of Currans (after that the Monies assigned to the English and Scotts Reformadoes out of the said Monies, and the Hundred Pounds assigned out of the said Monies, to Captain Dowse, shall be satisfied and complied with) shall be wholly employed for the Use of the Garison at Aylisbury.

Letter from Gloucester.

Ordered, That the Letter from Gloucester be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom: And they are to meet upon it this Afternoon: And the Lords desired, That their Committee may also meet: And the Committee for Gloucester is appointed to attend the Committee for the Safety upon this Business: And Mr. Nicoll is to give an Account to the House what is done herein.

Scotch Army.

Mr. Cheesely brought News, that our Brethren the Scotts were come in; that he parted from the Lord General's Head Quarter at Addleston, within Seven Miles of Alnwick, on Wednesday last.

Ordered, That an Hundred Pounds be sent unto Mr. Cheeseley, out of the Monies at Haberdashers Hall: And the Care hereof is in special recommended to Mr. Strode.

House to meet.

Resolved, &c. That the House shall meet this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Baynton is appointed to carry up to the Lords, The Ordinance concerning the Accounts at Haberdashers Hall; The Ordinance concerning Sheriffs; The Ordinance for One hundred Pounds to Mrs. Bastwick, out of Haberdashers Hall; The Order for Sixty-seven Pounds Four Shillings to Mr. Salloway, out of Haberdashers Hall: And was to desire the Lords, that the Six Shillings and Eightpence, set upon the Hundred Weight of Currans, imported since they were prohibited, be made Six Shillings: And to desire the Lords to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

London Petition.

The House being informed, that the Sheriffs and Court of Aldermen were at the Door; they were called in; and did present a Petition concerning the Lord General's Army; and did desire they might prefer the like to the Lords.- He did likewise desire, this House would take into Consideration an Ordinance for collecting the Value of a Meal Weekly, for maintaining the Forces within the Line, and without.- He desired likewise to present to the Consideration of the House: the State of the Garison at Windesore, raised out of the City, and by the Order of the Committee for the Safety.

The humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, of the City of London, in Common Council assembled, was read: And

Ordered, That this Petition; The Ordinance for the weekly Meal; and the City's Desire concerning Windesor Garison be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning the first Business: And Mr. Speaker to put the House in mind hereof: And that they have free Liberty to prefer the Petition they desire, to the Lords.

The Sheriffs and Aldermen were again called in; and acquainted with the Order made upon their Desires; and with the Sense the House has of the continual Expressions of the City to the Good of Religion, and to the Liberties and Rights of the Parliament and Kingdom: And publick Thanks were returned to them; and by them, to the City.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Baynton brings Answer, That, as to the several Orders carried up by him, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own; and do intend to sit this Afternoon, at Three of Clock.

Scotch Declarations, &c.

A Letter from the Commissioners sent into Scotland, from Berwick, of the Two-and-Twentieth of January; and a Letter from Sir Wm. Armyn, in the name of the English Commissioners, and from the Marquess Argyll, in the Name of the Scotts Commissioners, to Sir Tho. Gleinham, and the rest of the Commanders with him at Alnewick; and to Colonel Edw. Grey, and the rest of the Gentlemen of Northumberland; with a printed Declaration inclosed; and Sir Tho. Gleinham's Answer to the said Letter; and the Copy of his Warrant, of Safe Conduct to the Trumpeter, that brought the Letter and a Declaration of the Kingdom of Scotland, for Information and Satisfaction to their Brethren of England, concerning the present Expedition into England; and an Order of the respective Committees and Commissioners intrusted for the Conduct of the Scottish Army: concerning the drawing and publishing of a Declaration, to be presented to the Houses of Parliament of England, and the Convention of Estates in Scotland; and likewise, the Declaration itself; were all this Day read.

Declaration of both Kingdoms.

The Declaration, intituled, "The Declaration of the Kingdoms of England and Scotland, joined in Arms for the Vindication and Defence of their Religion, Laws, and Liberties, against the Popish, Prelatical, and Malignant Party, by the honourable Houses of the Parliament of England, and honourable Convention of Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland," was read, the First time, intire by itself; and then in Parts; and each particular Clause and Article voted; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto: And ordered, that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein; and the Blanks for the time, filled thus; viz.

Resolved, &c. That the Day for the Scotts Officers to come in, shall be the First Day of March next: And that Clause in the Declaration was amended accordingly.

Resolved, &c. That the Day for the Nobility and Gentry of England to return to their Duty, and to the Parliament's Service, and Defence of Religion, and Commonwealth, shall be the First Day of March next: And the Clause was amended accordingly.

The Question being put, whether that Part of the Declaration concerning Irish Rebels, should be in any thing amended;

It was resolved Negatively.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Scotts Affairs, to consider of a convenient House for Entertainment of the Commissioners from Scotland; and of furnishing it with Furniture convenient, from Whitehall or elsewhere; and likewise to consider of the Reception of the Commissioners from Scotland.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be, at a Conference, this Afternoon, acquainted with the whole Report of all the Papers from Scotland: And to desire the Lords Concurrence in the written Declaration from Scotland; and that it may be printed: And likewise, to desire their Concurrence, that the printed Declaration from Scotland might be likewise printed here by Order of both Houses: And that they be acquainted with what Civility the Commissioners from both Houses were entertained in Scotland; and to desire their Concurrence in some manner of civil Respect and Reception of the Commissioners from Scotland.

Sir H. Vane and Mr. Solicitor are appointed to manage this Conference.

The Covenant.

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor do, this Afternoon, make Report of the Business concerning the Taking the Covenant through the Kingdom.


Ordered, That Mr. Recorder do desire the Committee of the Militia in London, that the Regiment of Horse under Colonel Turner formerly employed under his Excellency, and now returned, may be sent forth, and employed under Sir Wm. Waller.

Sir Thomas Middleton.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the enabling Sir Tho. Middleton to advance, be read this Afternoon at the Sitting of the House.

Lord Lisle's, &c. Arrears.

An Ordinance touching the Payment of the Arrears due to the Lord Viscount Lisle, and Sir Rick. Greenvile, was this Day read the Second time.

Raising Forces.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for raising and maintaining of Forces in the Four associated Counties of Kent, Sussex, Surry, and Hunts, be reported To-morrow Morning.

Lord Lisle's, &c. Arrears.

An Ordinance for Payment of the Arrears to Sir Richard Greevile, and the Lord Lisle, was read the Second time, and committed to Mr. Holles, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Goodwyn, Mr. Tate, Mr. Rowse, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Corbett, Sir John Clottworthy, Mr. Strode, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Rob. Pye, Mr. Oldsworth, Sir Wm. Massam, Sir Henry Milmay, Sir John Trevor, or to any Four of them: And are to meet To-morrow, at Two of Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That the Letter, of the Twenty-seventh of December last, from the Commissioners in Scotland, now read, and the several Papers therein contained, concerning the Forces in Ireland, be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall; to take the same into their speedy Consideration: And

It is further Ordered, That the Committee at Grocers Hall be joined to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, for the Affairs of Ireland; and to take care of the Particulars, mentioned in the Order of the Thirtieth of December last; and to make a speedy Report thereof to the House.

Treasurer of Rutland.

Ordered, Upon a Letter to this House from the Committee of Rutlandshire sitting in Rockingham Castle, that John Cole of Clipsham, Gentleman, be nominated, by this House, Treasurer for the County of Rutland; to receive all such Monies as have been or shall be collected in that County upon any of the Ordinances of Parliament: And that such Monies as have been collected by Colonel Waite, by virtue of an Order of this House, of the Twenty-sixth of October, shall be paid unto the said Mr. Cole; the said Colonel Waite deducting out of the same so much as, by the said Order, he was to be allowed: And that, for the future, no Person be permited to levy or collect any Monies, in the said County of Rutland, without the Privity and Consent of the said Committee, or the major Part of them, sitting at Rockingham, first had and obtained in Writing.

Levant Company.

An Ordinance for the enabling the Levant Company to trade for Currans, into the Grand Seignor's Dominions, was read; and assented unto; and ordered, that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

An Ordinance for Repayment of Eight thousand Pounds to the Company of the Merchants trading to the Levant, which they have advanced to the State, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered, that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Publick Accounts.

Mr. Browne reports the Ordinance, with Amendments, concerning Accounts: Which were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent to the Lords.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Thomas Jennings, Merchant, shall be left out of the Ordinance for Accounts.

Courts at Westminster.

Mr. Prideaux reports the Ordinance concerning the Officers in the several Courts at Westminster, that absent themselves, whereby their Offices become forfeited, if they appear not in Person by the last Day of this Term . . . .

The Amendments were read, and assented unto; and Ordered, that the Lords Concurrence be desired therein.

Court of Wards.

Ordered, That Serjeant Wilde do report, on Thursday next, the Ordinance for taking away the Court of Wards.

Provost of Eaton College.

Resolved, &c. That Dr. Steward be discharged and disabled for being any longer Provost of Eaton College.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Rows shall be made Provost of Eaton College.

Resolved, &c. That the Sequestration of the Estate of Dr. Steward, belonging to him as Provost of Eaton College, shall be taken off.

Resolved, &c. That, when any Motion is made in the House for any Member, or other Person, for any Place or Office to be conferred upon them, That the House shall take a Day's time Respite to consider of the same, before they make Order therein; and to be made in a full House.

Ordered, That Mr. Prideaux do bring in an Ordinance for the settling of Mr. Rows in the Place of Provost of Eaton College; and to receive and enjoy all Profits, Privileges, and Emoluments, thereunto belonging.

Sir Henry Cholmley.

Ordered, That it be recommended to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, to consider of Sir Henry Cholmley his Condition; and to order and appoint some way for his present Subsistence, being plundered of all his Estate; and that the Profits of his sequestrable Estate, of the Provost of Eaton College, formerly granted unto him, are since granted and assigned unto Mr. Rous, a Member of the House of Commons, constituted Provost by Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament.

Recruiting the Army.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, at Four of Clock this Afternoon, to take Consideration of recruiting my Lord General's Army.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Holles, Mr. Prideaux, and Mr. Recorder, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Conference desired.

Sir Rob. Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning some Letters and Papers, received from the Commissioners of both Houses sent into Scotland.

Members to be examined.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee for Lincolnshire Informations shall have Power to examine Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Ellis, and Sir Edw. Aiscough, Members of this House.

Lords agree to Conference.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to a present Conference, as is desired.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire, that, at this Conference, they may communicate some Letters, which have been made known to them by the Earl of Pembroke, directed to him from the Isle of Wight.

And they do agree to the Ordinance for the swearing of Sheriffs.


Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree, that their Lordships shall, at this Conference, communicate their Letters from the Isle of Wight.