House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 16 February 1644

Pages 400-401

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 16 Februarii, 1643.


Members to attend Prayers.

ORDERED, That no Member do stay in the Passage of the Door into the House, during the Time of Prayers, to stop up that Passage; but that the Members, as they come in during the Time of Prayers, do immediately take their Places.

To be set up at the Door.

Isle of Elye.

Resolved, &c. That the Business concerning the securing of the Isle of Elye, be recommitted to the Committee for the associated Counties, to bring in an Ordinance to that Purpose, upon the Debate this Business has had in the House this Day.

Excise Accounts.

Ordered, That the Auditors for the Accounts of the Commissioners of the Excise do dispatch those Accounts with all Diligence; and certify this House of the Obstructions in this Business, if any be.

Recruiting the Army.

Ordered, That the Business concerning the procuring of Twenty thousand Pounds for recruiting of the Lord General's Army, be taken into Consideration next after the Business, Yesterday appointed, touching the Ordinance for appointing Committees to meet with the Commissioners of Scotland, &c.

Committee of both Kingdoms.

Mr. Strode is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, That this House delivered unto them, at a Conference, an Ordinance of great Concernment, that imports very much the Affairs of the Three Kingdoms, for appointing a Committee of both Kingdoms, to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations; and Reasons why the Words "Order and Direct" should be in that Ordinance; to which they have as yet received no Answer: They do desire, in regard of the Haste that Business requires, that they may have a speedy Answer.

Willoughby's Sequestration.

An Ordinance for seizing and sequestering the Estate of Sir F. Willoughby; and, particularly, Six hundred Pounds in the Hands of the Master, Warden, and Commonalty, of the Mystery of Goldsmiths, to be applied to the Use of the Garison of Gloucester; was this Day read the First and Second time; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Wm. Waller, &c.

Resolved, &c. That the Business concerning Sir Wm. Waller and Colonel Stapeley shall be re-committed to the same Committee: And are to * * * *

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Strode brings Answer, That the Lords will send a speedy Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche, and Mr. Page;

The Lords have agreed to the Ordinance mentioned in the Message by Mr. Strode, without any Alteration.

The Lords have received a Petition from the Earl of Westmorland, so full of Expressions of good Affection to the Commonwealth, that they were well satisfied with it; and do incline, that the Sequestration should be taken off.

The Lords do desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, presently, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Ordering and Government of the Church.

Earl of Westmorland.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to tender the Covenant to Sir Edw. Dering, do meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the inner Court of Wards; and bring in their Opinions on Monday, upon the whole Matter committed unto them: And that, in the mean time, the Clause of the Power to that Committee, for tendring the Covenant to such Persons as shall come in to take the Benefit of the Declaration, shall be suspended: And that the Earl of Westmorland's Petition be referred to the Consideration of this Committee.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and, as to the Earl of Westmorland's Petition, they have put it into a Way of Consideration; and do agree to a present Conference, as is desired.


Sir H. Mildmay, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Rous, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Recorder, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Walthamstowe Vicarage.

Ordered, upon the humble Petition of the Inhabitants of Walthamstowe, in the County of Essex; shewing, that the Vicarage of Walthamstowe became void by the Death of Doctor Grant the Incumbent; and still continuing void, by reason of several Writs of Quare Impedit, brought in the Court of Common Please by Robert Rowe Esquire, and Doctor Kinge, their Clerks, concerning the Right of Presentation to the said Church; and, in regard thereof, lies under Sequestration, by Order of the Bishop of London, during the Vacancy: It is Ordered, by the Commons assembled in Parliament, That, as well the whole Tythes and Profits of the said Vicarage that were due at Lammasday last, for the Year immediately before, as those that have grown due since, and that shall grow due hereafter, be paid to Mr. Lee, during the Time he shall officiate in the said Church: And that the Bond entered into by Wm. Coniers Esquire, John Benfeild Gentleman, Richard Thornton, and Thomas Garret, the Sequestrators to the Bishop, for rendering an Account of all the Profits, by them received, to the next Incumbent, be delivered up to them: And that the Arrearages of the Tythes and Profits of the said Vicarage, now remaining in the Hands of the Parishioners, be forthwith paid to the said Sequestrators; and that the same, and the Monies now in the Hands of the Sequestrators (or so much thereof as is needful) be forthwith laid out in the necessary Reparation of the said Vicarage House and Premises thereunto belonging.

Church Government.

Mr. Rous reports from the Conference, That the Earl of Manchester told them, that they had received divers Complaints of Disorders in the Church; and therefore desire this House to agree in an Order, which they have here sent down.

The Order was read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered, that one Copy should be sent to the Assembly, and another Copy to the Lord Mayor.-

Waller's Forces.

Ordered, That the Proposition for recruiting the Forces under Sir Wm. Waller, to enable them to march into the West, be made To-morrow, the first Business; and then resumed into Consideration.-

Church Government.

That, considering the many urgent Reasons of having the Government of the Church speedily settled, the Lords desire the House of Commons to join with them, in sending to the Assembly to hasten and speed their Advice to the Houses of Parliament, for the settling of all things that concern the present Discipline of the Church; and, that in the mean time, till such a Settlement be agreed on, that an Order be sent to the Lord Mayor, to require all the Ministers of the several Churches in London, and the Liberties thereof, that they suffer none to preach in the Places whereof they have their Charge, but such as they will be answerable for.

Willoughby's Sequestration.

Whereas it is evident that Sir Francis Willoughby Knight is a Delinquent to the Parliament; and hath been active in procuring and subscribing the Cessation of the War against the Rebels in Ireland: The Lords and Commons, now assembled in Parliament, do Order, Ordain, and Declare, That the real and personal Estate of the said Sir Francis Willoughby shall be seized and sequestered, according to a late Ordinance made for Sequestration of Delinquents Estates. And be it further Ordered, Ordained, and Declared, by the Authority aforesaid, that the Wardens and Commonality of the Mystery of Goldsmiths, London, shall forthwith pay, or cause to be paid, unto Nathanael Stephens, Thomas Hodges, and Thomas Pury, Esquires, Members of the House of Commons, for the Use of the Garison of Gloucester, upon Account, the Sum of Six hundred Pounds, with the Interest due and in Arrear for the same, owing, or remaining by or with the said Wardens and Commonality of the Mystery of Goldsmiths, London, as Part or Parcel of the Estate of him, the said Sir Francis Willoughby; they, the said Wardens and Commonality, taking an Acquittance or Receipt for the same, under the Hands and Seals of the said Nathanael Stephens, Thomas Hodges, and Thomas Pury; which shall be to the said Wardens and Commonality of the Mystery of Goldsmiths aforesaid, and their Successors, and to every Member of the said Company of Goldsmiths, a sufficient Discharge in that Behalf, against any Bond, Specialty, or other Assurance, made, given, sealed, or entered into, by the said Wardens and Commonality, or by any the Members of the said Corporation, or others, to him, the said Sir Francis Willoughby, or to any other Person or Persons whatsoever, in Trust for him, or for his Use and Behoof: And, for Payment hereof as aforesaid, shall be protected and saved harmless by both Houses of Parliament.