House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 13 March 1644

Pages 426-427

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 13 Martii, 1643.


Publick Accomptants.

ORDERED, That Mr. Speaker shall have Liberty to grant Warrants to the Serjeant, for the apprehending and detaining such Persons as are accountable to the State for Monies or Goods received, and as shall be suspected by the Committee for Accounts to go away to avoid their accounting: And that the Treasurers at Haberdashers Hall shall forthwith pay to the Treasurers at Guildhall, upon Account, Two hundred Pounds, to be employed for the better carrying on of that Work.

Sir H. Vane's Arrears, &c.

The humble Petition of Sir Hen. Vane sen. Knight, was read; representing unto this House his sad Condition; That he was plundered by the Earl of Newcastle his Forces, in Goods, Rents, Coaleries, and Woods, to the Value of Twenty thousand Pounds; That, by several Grants from his Majesty, there is due unto him, to be paid yearly, Eight hundred Pounds, and Three hundred Pounds; Eight hundred Pounds by the Cofferer, and Three hundred Pounds out of the Exchequer; which were duly paid unto him until Michaelmas 1641; since which time he hath not received any Part thereof: And that the Petitioner hath further owing unto him, for Money laid out of his Purse, the Sum of Two thousand and Five hundred Pounds, which he hath secured, by a Tally struck upon the Alienation Office; which he should, in Right, have received in July 1642: But was diverted by his Majesty's express Order.

It is therefore this Day Ordered, That the said Sums of Eight hundred Pounds, and three hundred Pounds, and Two thousand Five hundred Pounds, and the Arrears unto the said Sir Hen. Vane, shall be paid unto him out of the King's Revenue: And that the Committee . . . . . . Revenue do give Order for Payment of the same accordingly; and that, for the future, the Committee for the Revenue do, from time to time, pay unto him, the said Sir H. Vane, the said yearly Sums of Eight hundred Pounds, and Three hundred Pounds, according to the several Grants from his Majesty; as the said respective Sums shall from time to time grow due.

Foreign Reformed Churches.

According to an Order, Yesterday made, the Letter from the Assembly of Divines to the foreign Reformed Churches; and Answer to that Letter, from the Walacrian Classis; and the Message presented from the Assembly of Divines, upon the Occasion of this Letter; were all read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That the Letter from the Assembly of Divines to the Reformed Churches beyond Seas shall be printed, in Latin and English, with the several Inscriptions to the particular several Churches: And that Mr. Selden and Mr. Rous do acquaint the Assembly with this Order.

Information concerning Wools.

Ordered, That this Information concerning Wools belonging to Mr. Green, a Member of this House, endeavouring to be brought out of the King's Quarters, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of Lords and Commons at Haberdashers Hall.

Coal Trade.

An Ordinance for the opening the Trade for Coals and Salt, to Blythe and Sunderland, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Naval Commanders.

Ordered, That my Lord Admiral be desired to send in a List of all the Commanders of all the Ships employed in the Service of the King and Parliament.

Mr. Green to acquaint my Lord Admiral herewith.

Navy Victualler.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Victualler of the Navy be read, next after the Report of Mr. Tate, concerning the Lord General's List, shall be ended.


Mr. Tate proceeded in his Report of the List of the Officers of my Lord General's Army.

Resolved, &c. That the Captains under Major General Skippon, and the other Five Colonels after in the List, shall be nominated and approved of by this House.

Ordered, That, as to my Lord General's own Regiment, this List be referred back to the Committee, to desire his Lordship to nominate unto the Committee, and they to the House, the Officers of his own Regiment: And that the Committee shall have Power to confer with my Lord General about the same; and to settle it, if they can: However, they are to present All to the House To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning my Lord General's Army be brought in To-morrow Morning: And that the Committee for that Ordinance, and the Establishment, shall have Power to send for such Officers of the Army, or other Persons, as they shall think fit, to inform themselves, and to assist them, for the better perfecting of the Establishment.

Kent, &c. Association.

According to an Order Yesterday made, the House fell into Consideration of the Third Amendment, from the Lords, to the Ordinance concerning the Four associated Counties of Kent, &c.; and likewise of the Amendment, brought from the Committee, to the said Amendment: And, after some Debate, it was, by the House

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the Ordinance concerning the Four associated Counties of Kent, Sussex, Surry, &c. as it went from hence, as to the Third Clause and Amendment, from the Lords, to the said Ordinance.

Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House shall have Liberty to speak to the Two Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Ordinance concerning the Four associated Counties of Kent, &c.; and already voted, and assented unto, in this House.

The Question being propounded, whether this House will adhere to their former Votes, in concurring with the Lords to the Two Amendments, sent from the Lords, in the Title and Preamble of the Ordinance concerning the Four associated Counties of Kent, Sussex, Surrey, and Southampton;

The House was divided:

The Noes went forth.

Sir Philip Stapilton, and Mr. Recorder, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 52.
Mr. Solicitor, Sir Arthur Hasilrig , Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 69.

Resolved, &c. That this Ordinance shall be re-committed to the same Committee, as to the Lords Two first Amendments: And they are to meet upon it this Afternoon, and to bring it in To-morrow Morning.