House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 10 April 1644

Pages 455-456

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, Aprilis 10, 1644.


Master of the Savoye.

MEMORANDUM. Sir Ben. Rudyard, this Day, moved for conferring the Place of Master of the Sacoye upon Mr. Patrick Younge. And

It is Ordered, That this Business concerning the Disposal of the Place of the Master of the Savoye, be considered of To-morrow Morning. And that then Mr. Patrick Younge and Mr. Bond be both considered of in relation to this Place.

Privilege- Threatening a Member.

A Letter from Colonel Wm. Carr to Sir Arth. Heselrig, taxing him for some Expressions he delivered in this House, concerning . . . . menacing him with strange Threats and Provocations, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Wm. Carr be forthwith sent for as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House: And

Ordered, That he be forthwith brought to the Bar; and shewed this Letter; and examined from whom he had any Information of any thing spoken in this House, by Sir Arth. Heselrig: And that no Man speak with him.

Nottingham Committee.

Resolved, &c. That Edward Aiscoughe, of Nuthall, Esquire, be added to the Committee for Sequestrations for the County of Nottingham.

Reducing South Wales.

Divers Propositions, made by Mr. Jo. Gryffyth, for reducing of South Wales; and for making him Commander in Chief of all those Counties; were this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That these Propositions be referred unto Mr. Recorder, Mr. Holles, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Bainton, Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Herbert, Mr. Hodges, Sir Jo. Meyrick, Sir Phil. Stapelton, Mr. Knightley, Mr. White, Mr. Buller, Sir Rob. Harley, Sir Ben. Rudyer, Sir Jo. Corbett, Serjeant Wilde, Sir Christ. Wray, Mr. Pury, Sir Humph. Tufton, Mr. Tate, Mr. Pelham, Sir Jo. Francklyn: And they, or any Four of them, are appointed to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Star Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records: And are likewise to consider of the Letters from Pembrokeshire, and the Report of the Conference with the Lords thereupon: And are to report their Opinions to the House; and to prepare an Ordinance upon the Consideration of them, if there shall be Occasion; and to present it to the House.

Taking of Christ Church.

A Letter from Sir Wm. Waller, of the Fifth of April, from Ringwood; relating his taking of Christ Church, and in it Four hundred Foot and an Hundred Horse, without striking a Stroke; was this Day read.

Army Affairs.

Ordered, That it be referred in an especial manner to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to put in Execution the Resolutions of both Houses, of drawing their Forces together; and to employ their best Endeavours; so that all things may be in a Readiness against the Day that the Forces are to be drawn together, at the general Rendezvous; that nothing may hinder the Advance of the Service, when the Forces are in a Body: And that they make Report of their Proceedings herein on Saturday next.

Ordered, That the Ministers, and Lecturers, in their Sermons and Lectures, do exhort the People, and encourage them, to contribute their Assistance, both in their Persons and Purses, to this great and important Service.

Raising Forces.

Ordered, That after the Ordinance of Gloucester is read, and the Business of Ireland is taken into Consideration, that the House do consider of sending Committees into London, for the better raising of Forces.

Gloucester Garison.

An Ordinance for the Relief and Maintenance of the Garison of Gloucester, by raising Monies upon voluntary Subscriptions, and upon the several respective Ordinances of Parliament, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the first Committee for Gloucester; and the Committee for the Ordinance for Gloucestershire; and the Committee for South Wales; and Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Tho. Dacres, Sir F. Popham, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Mr. Pury, Sir Rob. Harley, Mr. Herbert, Sir Jo. Francklyn, Sir Wm. Lewes: And they are to meet upon it this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Star Chamber. And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.: And have Power to consider of Names of Committees to be presented in the Ordinance.

Privilege- Threatening a Member.

Colonel Wm. Carre was brought to the Bar: And being demanded, who it was that informed him of those Words that he taxes Sir Arth. Hesilrig with, in his Letter; he acknowledged the Letter; but refused to declare, who acquainted him with any such Words: saying, He could not remember who it was; though he believes very near an Hundred several Persons told him of it.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Wm. Carre be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Compter in Southwarke, for sending a menacing Letter to Sir Arth. Hesilrig, a Member of this House, for Words spoken by him the said Sir Arth. Hesilrig in the said House, the which Letter he acknowledged in the House; and for prevaricating with the House, and refusing to tell who informed him of those Words.

Message to Lords.

Sir Rob. Pye carried up to the Lords the Order of referring to the Committee of both Kingdoms, the drawing together all the Forces: The Order for the Ministers to encourage the People to contribute their Assistance, &c.

He likewise carried up additional Names to the Committees in Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, and Yorkeshire: And was to put the Lords in mind of the County Palatine Seal; and of the Ordinance concerning the Arrears of some Officers, and a Minister of Sir Wm. Waller's Army, viz. Captain Parry and Captain Williams.


Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Votes, concerning the referring to the Committee of both Kingdoms, the drawing of the Forces together; and the Encouragement of the People by the Ministers; and to the additional Names of the Committee of the several Counties: And as to the Ordinance for the two Captains, and the Business touching the Duchy Seal, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Duchy Seal.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords do understand by my Lord Newburg, that the Duchy Seal is here in his Custody.

Lady Powess' Allowance.

That the Lords have received a Petition from the Lady Elienor Powess, Wife of Wm. Lord Powess; wherein she desires the Allowance of Two hundred and Sixty Pounds per Ann., the only Maintenance she hath; which they conceive is but a small Sum: And that the Ordinance for Sequestrations doth not extend to the taking of it away.

The Petition was read.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Duchy Seal.

Resolved, &c. That a new Seal shall be made for the County Palatine of Lancaster, belonging to the Duchy: And that the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Scotts Commissioners.

Ordered, That the Paper from the Scotts Commissioners, of the Third of April, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business: And Mr. Speaker to put the House in mind thereof.

Forces in Ireland.

Ordered, That the raising of Eight thousand Pounds per Mensem, assigned to the Brittish and Scottish Forces in Ireland, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Ordnance Stores.

Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do acquaint the Committee of both Kingdoms with the Report he now tendered, concerning the Provision of Powder, Match, and Bullet.

Forces in Ireland.

For the future Maintenance of the Scottish and Brittish Forces;

It is Resolved, &c. For the future Maintenance of the Scotts and Brittish Forces in Ireland, That a settled Course be established by Ordinance of Parliament, or otherways, towards the monthly Pay of the Scotts Forces, the Sum of Four thousand Pounds to be paid to the Scotts Forces, and of Four thousand Pounds monthly to be paid to the Brittish Forces; which Sums of Money to be paid to the Brittish and Scotts Forces, shall be paid to the Hands of Treasurers, nominated for that Purpose, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, or their Committees authorized in that Behalf, and to be issued forth according to that Advice; and that the Surplusage due to the said Scotts Forces, according to the Treaty, over and above the said Four thousand Pounds monthly provided, shall be secured to them upon the publick Faith.

That whatever Provisions of Victual, or Monies, shall be raised or collected within the States of the United Provinces by way of Benevolence, or otherwise, for the Relief or Maintenance of the said Brittish and Scotts Forces, may be consigned to Persons nominated for that Purpose, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, or their Committees authorized in that Behalf, and to be issued forth according to Instructions that shall be given by the said Advice.

Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Leven, Lord General of the Scotts Forces in Ireland, being now, by the Votes of both Houses, agreed to be Commander in Chief over all the Forces, as well Brittish as Scotts, according to the Fourth Article of the Result of the Committees of both Kingdoms passed both Houses, be desired, with all convenient Speed, by the Advice of the said Committees, to appoint and nominate a Commander in Chief under his Excellency, over the said Forces, to reside with them upon the Place.

Resolved, &c. That Committees be nominated and appointed, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, of such Numbers and Qualities as shall be by them agreed on, to be sent, with all convenient Speed, to reside with the said Forces; and enabled with full and ample Instructions, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, for the Regulation of the said Forces, and the better carrying on of that War.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired.

Ordered, That when the House shall understand from the Committees that shall be sent into Ireland, by Advice of both Kingdoms, the State of the Forces there, they will then take into Consideration the Augmentation of the Sums for the monthly Pay, as Occasion shall be, as the Necessities of this Kingdom will permit.