House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 15 April 1644

Pages 459-460

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, Aprilis 15, 1644.


Scotts Army.

A LETTER from the Committee with the Scotts Army of April the Fifth, 1644, from Sunderland, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee of the Navy, together with the other Letter of the Third of April: And they are to return an Answer to the House upon all the Points in both the Letters.

Coals for Poor.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Lord Mayor of the City of London, in an especial Manner, to take such Order, that the Coals sent up from the Committee with the Scottish Army, may be distributed to the Relief and Benefit of the Poor, and none else; and that he will appoint such faithful and honest Officers to have care hereof, that the good Intentions of the House to the Poor may not be abused.

Transporting Wools.

The humble Petition of divers Merchants trading into Spaine, desiring Liberty to transport such Wools within Six Months, as they have formerly imported, according to the Book of Rates, was this Day read.

Ordered, That this House doth declare, That they do not intend by the Order of the Twenty-ninth of February, which prohibits the Exportation of Wools, to hinder the Exportation of such Spanish Wools, within Six Months, as have formerly been imported, or shall be imported; but, notwithstanding that Order, that the Merchants shall have the Benefit of the Book of Rates in that behalf.

Proceedings concerning Charnock.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Examinations, to examine the Keeper of the Compter concerning one Charnock; and to examine by what Passes he went to Oxon; and to take care, that Charnock be committed to very safe Custody.

Raising Horse.

A Letter from Knowle, from the Committee of Kent, of the Fourteenth of April, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That Sir H. Vane, Sir Tho. Walsingham, Mr. Lee, and Mr. Browne, and the rest of the Deputy Lieutenants, do prepare a Letter to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to the Committee at Knowle, to acquaint them with the Necessity of this present Service of raising Horse, for my Lord General; and that they shall be paid for them within Fourteen Days; and to return them Thanks in Acknowledgment of the great Services they have already performed.


Ordered, That the Committee of the rest of the associated Counties of the Earl of Manchester's Association, except Essex and Herts, who have already met, and concluded the Business, do meet this Afternoon, to consider of, and take Order, for proportioning of the Horse, to be raised in their several Counties with all Speed, for the Lord General's Draught Horse.

Money for Army.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde acquainted the House, That Mr. Edward Riche, of Lincolne's Inn, did freely offer to lend an Hundred Pounds to the Service of the Commonwealth.

It is Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Wilde do return Thanks to Mr. Riche. And

It is further Ordered, That, upon his paying in of the said Hundred Pounds to the Receiver of the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, who is hereby required to advance, upon Account, to the Four Captains of the Red Regiment, towards the levying and raising of their Men, that the Treasurers at Guildhall, London, do give Mr. Riche a Note, to be repaid upon publick Faith, with Interest; and that he shall receive the Interest for the Forbearance of the said Money, out of Haberdashers Hall.

Ordered, and desired, That the Committee of the Militia do advance so much Monies to the Captains of the Four Red Regiments, as may enable them to raise their Men, and to march according to further Order and Directions; and that this House will take care for their Payment, when they are Abroad.

Ordered, That Mr. Ellis and Mr. Prideaux do prepare and bring in an Ordinance, for appointing a Place and certain Way for such Persons as shall advance or lend any Monies for this present Service, to receive Consideration for Forbearance of their Monies so advanced, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent.

Gloucester Garison.

Sir Rob. Harley carried up to the Lords the Ordinance for the Relief and Maintenance of the Garison of the County, and County of the City of Gloucester.

Ship stranded.

Ordered, That the Letter from Sir Wm. Waller, of the Fifth of April, from Ringwood, touching the Duynkirke Ship stranded near Arundell, and the Petition of divers Merchants, and the Remonstrance of the Spanish Ambassador, touching the same Business; be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Propositions for Peace.

An Ordinance for enabling the Committee of both Kingdoms to consider of Propositions for a well-grounded Peace, and to bring them in by Wednesday next, was this Day read the Second time.

Resolved, &c. That a certain Time shall be prefixed within this Ordinance, for bringing in Propositions for a well-grounded Peace.

Resolved, &c. That the Time prefixed in this Ordinance shall be Friday-come-Sevennight; or sooner, if it may be.

Sir H. Cholmeley is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile.

Resolved, &c. That the Clause beginning with the Words "So as," and ending with the Words "both Kingdoms," shall be left out of this Ordinance.

Sir H. Cholmeley brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to sit awhile.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth assent to the Proviso to stand in this Ordinance.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth assent to the Ordinance sent from the Lords, with these Amendments and Alterations.

Ordered, That a Conference shall be desired; and these Amendments and Alterations delivered at this Conference.

Sir Rob. Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships . . . ., concerning the Ordinance.

Ship Loyalty, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Aylett;

The Lords have received divers Petitions from divers Merchants, whose Ships are stayed by Order of this House: Which they thought fit to communicate to this House; desiring them to take it into a speedy Consideration, Time being precious with them; and, if they lose this Season, they lose their Voyage.

The Petition, bearing the Title of the Petition of Sir Tho. Soame, Colonel Sam. Harsenett, Wm. Ihams, John Durston, John and Tho. Pettieward, Rob. and Wm. Erle, Owners and Masters of the Two Ships, called The Loyalty, and The Thomas and John, of London, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee for Examinations, to consider both of the Matter of the Petition, and of the Matter of Privilege.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Pierepont, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Walt. Erle, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Lords agree to Conference.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to a present Conference, as is desired.

Committee added.

Ordered, That Mr. Hodges be added to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, instead of Mr. Holland.

Duke of Gelderland's Agent.

Ordered, That Monsieur * , Agent to the Duke of Gelderland, shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go to Oxon, with Two Servants, upon the Occasions of the said Duke; provided that he carry no Letters, or other Matter, that may be prejudicial to the Parliament.

Raising Horses.

Sir Thomas Barrington reports from the Committee of Association, that the Committee have proportioned the Five hundred Draught Horses for his Excellency, upon Six of the associated Counties, as followeth: And was desired, by the Committee of both Kingdoms, to be repaid at Seven Pounds a Horse, one with another:

Norffolk and the City of Norwich - - 125
Suffolk - - - - - 125
Essex - - - - 120
Cambridg, and the Isle of Ely - - 55
Hertfordshire - - - 45
Huntingtonshire - - - 30

He further reports, that only Essex and Hertfordshire had set this Business in a Way; and desired, from the Committee, the rest might do the like: And reports, that Essex had already taken up the Money; and set the Work in Hand for raising the Horses; and would rest upon such further Assurance as the House shall please to give them, for Re-payment, which was formerly referred by the House to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall to be considered of, that the Payment might be made within Fourteen Days.