House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 25 April 1644

Pages 468-470

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 25 Aprilis, 1644.


Detention of Ships.

MR. Whittacre reports from the Committee to which the Petition of Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Harsenett, and other Merchants, was referred, concerning Two Ships, The Loyalty, and The Thomas and John, freighted by Mr. Courten, that were stayed by Order of the Committee of the Navy, till Eighteen hundred Pounds, owing by Mr. Courten to the Office of Ordnance, be satisfied; That the Opinion of the Committee was, that there was no Breach of Privilege in the preferring of that Petition: That the Ships ought to be discharged; that the Bonds of Three thousand Pounds, entered into by the Petitioners not to depart from the Downs without Licence first obtained for the same, be delivered up to the Petitioners.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Harsenett, and the other Petitioners, concerning the Ships Loyalty, and Thomas and John, do, within Fourteen Days, pay and satisfy, unto the Creditors of the Office of the Ordnance, Eighteen hundred Pounds, unless Mr. Courten shall, in the mean time, satisfy the said Eighteen Hundred Pounds by Sale of his Ships, or otherwise: And that if the said Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. Harsenett, &c. be constrained, by the Failure of Mr. Courten, to pay the said Eighteen hundred Pounds, that then they shall be secured and satisfied out of the said Ships of Mr. Courten, that are stayed by Order of this House, or the Committee of the Navy.

It is further Ordered, That the Thousand Pounds owing to Captain Driver from the State, formerly assigned to be paid unto him by Mr. Courten, in Lieu and Discharge of so much owing by Mr. Courten to the State, upon Bond for Customs, be satisfied out of the said Ships, the former Eighteen hundred Pounds being first satisfied, if Mr. Courten shall not otherwise satisfy the same.

Ship stranded.

The humble Petition of Arnold Brames, James Butler, Henry de Thosse, and Peter Sams, &c. concerning the Duynkirke Ship stranded near Shoreham; and likewise the Remonstrance from the Spanish Ambassador, intituled, thus; "To the Right honourable the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, it is represented unto your Honours, by Don Alenso de Cardenas, of the Counsel of his Catholick Majesty the King of Spaine, and his Ambassador here in England;" and likewise a Letter from Sir Wm. Waller to the Lord Admiral, and from the Lord Admiral to Mr. Recorder, concerning the said Ship and Goods; were all this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That this Petition, Remonstrance, and Letters, and the whole Business thereupon depending, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of the Navy; to state the whole Business upon all the Points considerable in it: And that they send for the Officers of the Court of Admiralty, and the Proofs, and other Matters exhibited in the said Court, concerning the said Ship; and peruse the Proofs; and inform themselves, by the said Officers of the Admiralty, of the whole Business; and state it, and report it to the House.

Boate's, &c. Petition.

The humble Petition of Dr. Arnold Boate and Mr. Ben. Worseley, in the Behalf of themselves, and other poor Protestant Passengers, taken by some Ships in the Parliament's Service, in their Passage upon a Vessel of Dover, was this Day read; and referred, and, in an especial Manner recommended unto the Consideration of the Adventurers, that set forth the Ships that took the said Passengers; to inquire into the Condition and Affection of the said Passengers; and to do therein as they shall think fit; and to report their Doings therein to the House.

Grant of Books to Peters.

Whereas this House was formerly pleased to bestow, upon Mr. Peters, Books to the Value of an Hundred Pounds; It is this Day Ordered, That Mr. Recorder, Mr. Whitclock, and Mr. Hill, or any Two of them, do cause to be delivered unto Mr. Peters Books to the Value of an Hundred Pounds, out of the particular and private Study of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and out of the Books belonging to the said Archbishop, in his own particular.

Billeting Soldiers.

Whereas the Committee of Northampton gave Order for the Billeting of the Horse, under the Command of Commissary Colonel Behir, for some time, till their Billet came to Two hundred Pounds, or thereabouts; the which was promised to be repaid to the Country; and was accordingly paid out of the Excise Monies in those Parts: It is this Day Ordered, That, upon the Certificate of the said Committee, assented unto by the said Colonel, that the said Monies be allowed to the said Committees out of the Excise, and deducted out of the Soldiers Pay: And that an Hundred Pounds further be allowed to the said Committee out of the Excise, for the providing of Ammunition.

Associated Counties.

Resolved, &c. That the Ordinance for Raising and Maintaining of the Forces of the associated Counties, under the Command of the Earl of Manchester, be continued for Three Months longer after the Expiration of the said Ordinance.

Mr. Corbett, Sir Tho. Barrington, and Mr. Solicitor, are appointed to bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose, on Saturday Morning next.


Ordered, That the Ordinance, for the better regulating and bringing in of the Sequestrations, be reported on Saturday Morning.

Nottingham Committee.

Resolved, &c. That the Mayor of Nottingham, for the Time being, be added to the Committee of Sequestrations for the County of the Town of Nottingham; and Mr. Jervoice Lomax for the County of Nottingham.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords do agree to the Alterations, sent up by this House, to the Ordinance for preparing Grounds for a safe Peace.

They have likewise thought fit to put off the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterbury till Tuesday next.

Lords to sit.

Sir Rob. Pye went up to the Lords, to desire their Lordships to sit awhile.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, That the Lords will sit awhile.

Propositions for Peace.

Resolved, &c. That the Time in the Ordinance, for bringing in the Propositions to the Houses for a safe and well-grounded Peace, shall be extended to Wednesday next, the First of May, 1644. And the said Ordinance was amended accordingly; and sent up to the Lords, so amended, for their Concurrence, by Sir Robert Harley.

Money for Army.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, to consider of the raising of the Two thousand Eight hundred Pounds, informed to be the Remainder of a Fortnight's Pay, formerly ordered to my Lord General's Army: And the Treasurer at Wars is required to send, to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall the Orders upon which this Residue is demanded; and the Foot of Account, upon which the said Two thousand Eight hundred Pounds becomes due.

Ordered, That the Committee at Haberdashers Hall do forthwith to pay, unto the Lieutenant of the Ordnance, upon Account, One thousand Pounds, to furnish Provisions to enable the Train of Artillery to march: And the Lieutenant of the Ordnance is to pay the said Monies unto Captain Cannon, for the providing of Materials for the Train of Artillery in such a manner, as that they may be brought to an Account.


Resolved, &c. That this House, at the Rising, shall adjourn till Saturday next: The Lords to be acquainted herewith by Sir Rob. Harley.

Money for Army.

Sir Hen. Mildmay, Mr. Green, and Mr. Wheeler, are appointed to go to the Commissioners of Excise; and earnestly to press them, that they would pay in the Second Ten thousand Pounds, for enabling my Lord General's Army to march on Saturday next at the farthest.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Rob. Harley brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance touching the Grounds of Peace, with the Alterations of enlarging the Time, limited in the said Ordinance, till Wednesday next, the First of May, 1644; and that he acquainted the Lords, that this House intends to adjourn till Saturday next.

Aylesbury Garison.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the King's Revenue, to provide a present Supply of Monies, to enable the Garison at Aylesbury to march: And it is especially recommended to Sir H. Mildmay, to take care of this Business.

Court of Wards.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords, concerning Mr. Chamberleyne's Place in the Court of Wards, appointed to Mr. Corbett by former Order.

City Forces.

Mr. Ellis, Sir Tho. Barrington, and Sir Peter Wentworth, are appointed to go to the Committee of the Militia, to hasten the March of the City Forces.

Letter referred.

A Letter from the Committee in Kent, from Knowle, of the Two-and-twentieth of April, 1644, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee made on Monday last, for the Surrey Petitions; and the Justification of this Letter is referred to the Consideration of this Committee.

Proceedings concerning Kinge.

Mr. Solicitor presented, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, Two Papers; one signed by Colonel Edw. Kinge, of April the 12th, 1644, intituled, Certain Passages, which happened, after the Earl of Manchester's Forces went against Newarke; the other Paper, signed by Rob. Lilbourne, Christopher Bethell, John Pitchford, and Tho. Parnell, concerning Sir Edw. Hartupp's having the Command of a Party of Horse and Dragoons, consisting of Two thousand Horse, or thereabouts, with which he marched to Long Billington, &c.: And

It is Ordered, That this Paper concerning Sir Edw. Hartupp, be referred to the Committee formerly appointed to consider of the Articles and Informations against Sir Edw. Hartupp.

Colonel Edw. Kinge was called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, demanded of him, Whether it was his Hand that signed the Paper; and whether he would avow the Paper; He answered, It was his own Hand; and he did avow it for a very Truth.

Ordered, That the Information in Writing, given by Colonel King, and the other Paper, subscribed by several Commanders, be referred to the Committee appointed for Sir Edw. Hartopp's Business: And that the said Committee is to examine the Proceedings against Colonel King in the Lords House; and whether the Proceedings are for the same Matter which this House was formerly possessed of.

Trial of Delinquents.

Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Whitlock, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Rous, Sir H. Vane jun. Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Crue, Mr. Holland, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Sam. Browne, Mr. Corbett, Sir Arthur Hasilrigg, Sir Thoms Barrington, Sir John Corbett;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are to prepare an Ordinance and Commission, to be a standing Commission, for the Trying of Delinquents, concerning Matter of War, according to the Course of War: And they are to present, to this House, such Persons as they think fit, to be inserted into this Commission; and who to be a President of the Council: And that the Council do sit within the City of London, or Line of Communication: And are to present the same to the House on Monday Morning next: And this Committee is to meet this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in the Queen's Court: And the Care of this Ordinance is referred to Mr. Ellis and Mr. Prideaux.

Defacing Copes, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Rob. Harley do report, on Saturday, the Ordinance for defacing Copes, &c.

Military Affairs.

A Letter from Derby, of the Twentieth of April, from Sir John Gell, of a Defeat given to Colonel Goring's Forces at Burton, and of the Taking of one Colours, was read.

Ordered, That a Letter of Thanks be written to Sir John Gell, and the rest of the Commanders at Derby: And Sir Arthur Hasilrig and Mr. Hallowes are to prepare that Letter.

Resolved, That Twenty Barrels of Powder, and One hundred Case of Pistols, be forthwith sent to Derby, and delivered out of the Stores at the Tower.

Court of Wards.

Whereas John Mostin Gentleman, whose Office was to make the Writs of Diem clausit extremum, and other Writs, Patents, and Commissions, made by Warrant of the Court of Wards and Liveries, or by Bill signed, hath deserted his Employment therein, being resident in the Armies raised against the Two Houses of Parliament; and is become a Delinquent: The Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, do this Day Ordain and Declare, That Thomas Shadwell Gentleman, shall have, enjoy, and execute, the said Office of the said John Mostyn, as amply and beneficially, as the said John Mostyn, or any others, have formerly held the said Office: And this Ordinance shall be sufficient Warrant to the Commissioners for the great Seal of England, to pass the said Office or Place, in Form usual, to the said Thomas Shadwell accordingly.

Money due to Northampton.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of Excise shall write to their Agents at Northampton, to allow, out of the Excise there, so much as hath been laid out, or is due, for the Entertainment of the Forces lately quartered near Northampton, under the Command of Major General Behcre: And that Two of the Committee there shall certify the Sum to the Commissioners of Excise in London; and shall also send, to the Treasurer of the Army, the Notes which were made by Major General Behere's Officers.

It is further Ordered, That the Commissioners of Excise in London, shall write to their said Agents to pay One hundred Pounds to the said Committee for Ammunition.