House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 1 May 1644

Pages 474-476

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 1 Maii, 1644.


Colonel Kinge.

ORDERED, That Mr. Tate do To-morrow make his Report of the Business concerning Colonel Kinge.

Money for Aylisbury, &c.

Ordered, That the Gentlemen of Sussex, Surrey, and Hants', do forthwith bring in the Monies borrowed by them of the Committee of the King's Revenue: And that the Gentlemen of Bucks do this Day meet with the Committee of the Revenue, and confer and consider together of providing some present Monies for Aylisbury; and that some Course may be taken for borrowing of the Two thousand Pounds owing to Mr. Samwell, out of Sir Tho. Dawes his Estate.

It is further Ordered, That the Gentlemen of Sussex, Surry, and Hants, do take Notice of this Order, and meet with the Committee of the Revenue this Afternoon.

Patents for Offices.

It is Ordained, by the and Commons, assembled in Parliament, That the Warrant or Fiat under the Hands of the Committee of his Majesty's, the Queen's, and Prince's Revenue, or any Five of them, shall, from time to time, be sufficient Warrant to the Commissioners of the Great Seal of England, to pass several Patents, in Form usual, of the several Offices of the Escheators, of the several Counties of England and Wales, to such Persons as the said Committee, or any Five of them, shall nominate or appoint.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein; and was carried up by Sir Rob. Pye; and likewise the Order for the Lord Claneboys.

Audeleye's Sequestration.

Resolved, &c. That the Sequestration of Mr. Audeleye's Estate shall be totally taken off; and he restored to his Place in the Court of Wards.


Resolved, &c. That whosoever is, or shall be sequestered only for Non-payment of the Fifth, and Twentieth Part, or either of them, after the said Fifth, and Twentieth Part shall be satisfied, shall be discharged of the Sequestration.

Grant to Fane.

Resolved, &c. That Fifteen hundred Pounds, out of the growing Profits and Arrears of the Court of Wards, shall be bestowed upon Mrs. Jane Fane, Daughter of Colonel Anth. Fane, slain in the Parliament Service, at the taking in of Farneham Castle, and paid to Feoffees in Trust, for the Use, Benefit, and Advantage of the said Mrs. Jane Fane, Daughter of the said Colonel, out of the said growing Profits, and Arrears of the Court of Wards, immediately after that the Assignments, now made upon the said Revenue, shall be first satisfied and paid: And it is referred to the Committee for the King's Revenue, to take care, and give Order, that this Order be complied with.

Court of Wards.

Ordered, That the Committee for the King's Revenue do prepare, and bring in an Ordinance for nominating and constituting Mr. Corbett, a Member of this House, Clerk of the Court of Wards, in the Stead and Place of Mr. Chamberleyne, a Delinquent in Arms against the Parliament.

Surry Committee.

Ordered, That Colonel Samuel Jones be inserted in the Ordinance, as a Committee for the County of Surry.

Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

Sir Tho. Barrington went up to the Lords, to desire them to pass the Ordinance for maintaining the Earl of Manchester's Forces, in regard of the Importance of it; and to inform them, that any Alteration in this Ordinance at this time, may have a very bad Influence.

Relief of Aylesbury.

Mr. Whitelock, Sir Philip Stapilton, and Mr. Fountaine, are appointed to go to my Lord General, to desire.... to take the best Care he can for the present Relief and Safety of the Town of Aylesbury.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, this Afternoon to meet and consider of the present Relief and Safety of the Town of Aylisbury.

Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leeche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Crewe, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Mr. Ellis, Sir Tho. Barrington, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Merchants Petitions.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Western Gentlemen be added to the Committee formerly appointed to consider of the Petitions from divers well affected Merchants of Towns and Ports within the Power of the King's Forces.

Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

Mr. Crewe reports from the Conference, That my Lord Gray of Warke did express the Desire the Lords had of preserving a good Correspondence; and yet, that the Lords could not agree to the Ordinance, without the Addition sent down by the Lords; and That for the Reasons following: Which he presented in Writing: The which were read.

Resolved, That this House doth adhere to their former Resolution, for continuing the Ordinance concerning the Earl of Manchester, and the Forces of the Eight associated Counties.

Mr. Solicitor, Sir H. Vane jun. Mr. Ellis, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Crewe, Mr. Lisle;

This Committee is appointed to prepare Reasons for their adhering to the said Ordinance; and to consider of the Reasons sent down from the Lords; and what is fit to be done upon them, for the Vindication of the Privilege and Honour of the House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the former Place.

Letters to Earl of Leven, &c.

Ordered, That Sir H. Vane jun. do, To-morrow, the first Business, report the Letters to be sent to the Earl of Leven, and the Committee of the Scotts Army.

Army Pay.

Ordered, That Mr. Scawen and Mr. Wheeler do, from this House, go to my Lord General; and desire his Lordship to grant his Warrants to the Treasurer at Wars, to pay such Sums of Money as are at this present to be made, by Way of Imprest, upon Account, to the Officers, and such others as are to receive Pay, either for themselves or their Soldiers.

Army, &c.

Ordered, That the House do proceed with the Lord General's List To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, That the Petitions and Papers, concerning the Surgeons, and Lieutenant Colonel Paleologus, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for my Lord General's List; who are appointed to meet this Afternoon upon it in the Duchy Chamber.

Army Establishment.

Upon Mr. Scawen's Report, this Day made, from the Committee appointed to prepare an Establishment for my Lord General's Army;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That, though there be no such Officers as an Adjutant to the Serjeant Major General, on the Northern List; yet, in regard of the Worth of the Major General, and the Use that may be of such an Officer, the Opinion of this House is, to allow the Entertainment of such an Officer of Twenty Shillings per diem.

Resolved, &c. That, for an Assistant to the Quarter Master General, there was no such in the Northern List; and the House doth not think fit to allow of such an Officer now.

Army Establishment.

Resolved, &c. That the House doth think fit, that the Provost Marshal General shall have Twenty Men allowed him, each at Carabine's Pay; that is, Two Shillings Six-pence per diem.

Resolved, &c. That all Officers, that have Allowance of Men and Horse, shall have the Pay of Carabines; that is, Two Shillings Six-pence per diem for each; viz. Quarter Master General of the Horse, Two Horse and Men; Commissary for Provisions, Four Horse and Men; Waggon Master General of the Foot, Two Horse and Men; Commissary General for the Provisions of the Foot, Four Horse and Men.

Resolved, &c. That the Waggon Master General's Pay shall be reduced to the Pay of the Northern List; that is, at Six Shillings Eight-pence per diem for himself; and his Men to have the Pay of Carabines; and, as for a Deputy to the Waggon Master General, the House doth not think fit to allow of such an Officer, there being no such in the Northern List.

Resolved, &c. That it be expressed in the List what Allowances for Servants the Treasurer at Wars is to have, besides his own Pay, which, by Ordinance, he is to have as Sir Wm. Uvedall had; viz. Two Deputies at Six Shillings Eight-pence each per diem; and Six Clerks at Two Shillings each per diem.

Resolved, &c. The House is also of Opinion, that the Treasurer at Wars shall have Allowance for Three Treasure Waggons, and to every Waggon Six Horses, and Two Waggoners; and to be allowed for Three of the Waggoners Eighteen-pence each per diem; and for the other Three, Twelve-pence each per diem; and for Eighteen Horses each at Sixteen-pence per diem; and, upon extraordinary Occasions, my Lord General may, as his Lordship shall see Cause, give Allowance for more Carriages to the Treasurer at Wars.

Resolved, &c. The House is of Opinion, that there shall be but One Muster Master General in the Army; and he to have the Pay of Thirty Shillings per diem for himself; and Two Deputies at Five Shillings each; and Two Clerks at Two Shillings Six-pence each.

Resolved, &c. That the Advocate of the Army shall have Ten Shillings per diem allowed to him, for his own Pay, more than in the Northern List, which will be Twenty Shillings per diem: But the House doth not think fit to allow Pay for an Adjutant to him; but are content, that there be Five Shillings per diem allowed on the List for his Clerk.

Resolved, &c. That every Chaplain in the Army shall have Four Shillings per diem more in the Northern List; viz. Eight Shillings per diem.

Resolved, &c. That every Physician shall have Ten Shillings per diem.

Resolved, &c. That the Apothecary's Pay shall be Ten Shillings per diem.

Resolved, &c. That the General of the Horse his Pay to be reduced to Five Pounds per diem.

Resolved, &c. That the House is not of Opinion to allow of an Adjutant to the Commissary General of the Horse.

Resolved, &c. This House is of Opinion, to allow to the Provost General of the Horse Entertainment for Eight Men, at the ordinary Pay of Carabines; and to every Regiment of Horse, a Provost, at Five Shillings Six-pence; Two Men at Two Shillings Six-pence.

Resolved, &c. That the Muster Master of the Horse be totally taken away.

Resolved, &c. This House is of Opinion, that every Regiment of Horse shall have Entertainment allowed for a Surgeon and Two Mates, as a Regiment of Foot hath.

Resolved, &c. The House doth think fit to allow a Sadler to every Troop of Horse.

Resolved, &c. The House doth allow of the Lifeguard, and the Entertainments formerly paid them.

Resolved, &c. The House doth think fit, that Fourpence per diem be allowed for a Gentleman of the Arms in every Company of the Foot; and that the Field Officers of the Lord General's Regiment shall, to their several Companies, have one Serjeant and Corporal added.

Resolved, &c. That the Mark Master shall be taken away; and the Gatherer-up of the Arms.

Resolved, &c. The Scout Master's Pay, they do think fit not to set that on the List, but to refer that to my Lord General, as an extraordinary Charge, that cannot be ascertained, as all other Extraordinaries must be, that are demanded: In all which his Excellency is desired to require the Assistance of such Commissioners as are to reside in the Army.

Resolved, &c. That the Commissary for the Provisions of the Foot shall have Allowance of Entertainment on the List, for himself and his Officers, to the Sum of Two Pounds Thirteen Shillings Six-pence per diem; viz.

£. s. d.
The Commissary his Pay is, per diem, 0 16 0
Three Deputies Pay, each at Six Shillings Eight-pence per diem, 1 0 0
Two Clerks Pay, each at Three Shillings per diem, 0 6 0
One Chief Baker, at Two Shillings Tenpence per diem, 0 2 10
Two Store-keepers, each at Two Shillings per diem, 0 4 0
For One Waggon, at Four Shillings Eight per diem, 0 4 8
Total per diem is £. 2 13 6

And the House is of Opinion, that, for the Subtlers, Waggons, Losses, &c. it be left to my Lord General's Order, and the good Husbandry of the Commissioners that reside in the Army, upon Account, and Oath of the Commissioners.

Resolved, &c. That the House is of Opinion, and think fit to allow to the Commissary of Provisions, for the Horse, for himself, and Four Men, Twenty-six Shillings per diem; viz. for himself Sixteen Shillings per diem; and for his Four Men, each Two Shillings Six-pence per diem.