Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
This free content was digitised by double rekeying. All rights reserved.
Die Veneris, Maii 24, 1644.
AN Ordinance concerning the Disposal of the Estate of Tho. Gamull of London, Citizen, deceased, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ordered, That Mr. Long and Mr. Vassall do forthwith go to the Committee of the Militia, to desire them to discharge Colonel Harvey's Quarters, to take his Musters, and to dispatch his Pay unto him, in such manner, as that Colonel Harvey and his Regiment may be gone away this Day.
Ordered, That the Committee at Stafford shall take into Consideration the Desires of Sir Wm. Brereton, to have the Demesne and other Rents and Profits belonging to the Castle of Eccleshall, with the several Rents and Profits of Brewood, Goushall, Tarvin, Wibunbury, Farrington, Burton, and Grateswood Heath Warren, upon Account, for the Maintenance of the said Garison of Eccleshall; and return their Opinions to the House.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Examinations, to take the Examinations and Testimonies of such Witnesses as shall be produced, concerning Colonel Manwaring of Cheshire.
Money for Army.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, to examine and consider whether the Thousand Pounds delivered in for Staffordshire, be all issued forth: And, if there be an Hundred Pounds of the said Monies remaining and unissued, that the said Hundred Pounds be paid unto Sir Wm. Brereton, for so much advanced and disbursed by him, to Colonel Greeves.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth consent, that the Ordinance for allowing of such concealed Estates of Papists and Delinquents, as shall be discovered by Sir Wm. Brereton himself and his Agents, do continue for Two Months longer.
An Ordinance for the reimbursing of Captain Wm. Edwards the Sums of Money by him disbursed in the public Service, was this Day read the First time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
The humble Petition of Edmund Peaseley, Citizen and Grocer of London, was this Day read; and laid aside.
Ordered, That Sir H. Vane sen. do, To-morrow, at Nine of Clock, make his Report from the Committee of the King's Revenue.
Committee of both Kingdoms.
An Ordinance for directing the Proceedings of the Committee of both Houses, appointed to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence, by Sir Rob. Pye.
Greenland House, &c.
A Letter from my Lord General, of the Three-andtwentieth of May, was read, concerning Greenland House, and Towns and Parts adjacent: Whereupon
It is Ordered, That the Committee of both Kingdoms do, this Afternoon, take the same into Consideration: And the Gentlemen of Buckinghamshire, Barkshire, and Oxfordshire, are to attend that Committee, this Afternoon, concerning this Business.
An Ordinance for putting the associated Counties of Suffolk, Norfolke, Essex, &c. into a Posture of Defence, by the better regulating of the Trained Bands, and raising other Forces of Horse and Foot, for the Preservation and Safety of the said Counties and Cities, was read the First time.
Ordered, That this Ordinance be read the Second time To-morrow.
Ordination of Ministers.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair:
And, in pursuance of the former Orders, the House was resolved into a Committee, to consider of the Propositions from the Assembly concerning the Ordination of Ministers: And Mr. Ellis was called to the Chair.
Mr. Speaker assumed the Chair again.
Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Rich and Mr. Page;
That the Lords have sent down the Ordinance of Parliament for the better Execution of the former Ordinances for Sequestration of Delinquents and Papists Estates: Which they agree unto; with the Addition and Amendments therewith sent down; and desire the Concurrence of this House.
The Additions and Amendments were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto, and ordered to be printed.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That, this House doth concur and agree to the Alteration and Amendments.
Answer from Lords.
Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That to the Ordinance he carried up, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Four associated Counties do meet this Afternoon, and consider of all the Things in Proposition concerning Sir Wm. Waller and them; and to provide for such Things as he wants.
A Letter from Sir W. Waller was read, dated from Basingstoake, the Three-and-Twentieth of May . . .; ordered to be referred to the Committee of both Kingsdoms.
Ordered, That the Petition from the County of Sussex, and the Certificate from the Committee in Sussex, concerning Captain Higgons, be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Committee of both Kingdoms.
An Ordinance for directing the Proceedings of the Committee of both Houses, appointed to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland.
Whereas, by an Ordinance, intituled, an Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the last Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland, it is among other things ordained, That the Committee of both Houses, mentioned in that Ordinance, are to observe such Orders as they, from time to time, shall receive from both Houses of Parliament; the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, do, for the better Directions of the said Committee in their Proceedings, Declare and Ordain, That the said Committee, or any Six of them, whereof One Lord and Two Commoners, shall treat with the Committees and Commissioners appointed by our Brethren of Scotland, in such Things as shall by them be propounded from and in the Name of the Kingdom of Scotland, for the Ends in the said Ordinance expressed; as likewise propound to the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland whatever they shall receive in Charge from both Houses; and from time to time advise and consult concerning the same; and report the Result to both Houses. And further, the said Committee, or any Six of them, whereof One Lord and Two Commoners, shall, as a joint Committee with the Committee and Commissioners of Scotland, advise, consult, order and direct, concerning the carrying on and managing of the War for the best Advantage of the Three Kingdoms, and the keeping of good Intelligence between the Three Kingdoms, their Forces, Committees, and Councils; and likewise hold good Correspondency and Intelligence with foreign States; and further advise and consult of all Things, in pursuance of the Ends expressed in the late Covenant and Treaty. And it is further Declared and Ordained, That nothing in the Ordinance before-mentioned doth or shall authorize the Committee of both Houses thereby appointed, to advise, treat, or consult concerning any Cessation of Arms, or making of Peace, without express Direction from both Houses of Parliament: And that the said Committee have and shall have only such Power and Authority as is herein expressed, limited, and appointed, and none other. And, for the better carrying on this great Work, and to the Intent the Debates and Resolutions of that Committee may be proceeded in with Secrecy and Expedition, for the best Advantage of the Publick, it is further Ordained, That all and every the Members of both Houses of that Committee shall, before One Lord and Two Commoners of that Committee, such as shall by the major Part of the Members of both Houses present, being of that Committee, be appointed, take this Oath ensuing, and shall swear as followeth:
I A. B. do, in the Presence and by the Name of God Almighty, promise and swear to be faithful in this Trust committed unto me; and that I will not reveal or disclose any thing, in Whole or in Part, directly or indirectly, that shall be debated or resolved upon by this Committee, without the Command or Direction of those by whom I am intrusted, or without the Order of the major Part of this Committee, or of the major Part of them which shall be present at such Debates or Resolutions.
And the said Lord and Two Commoners are hereby authorized to administer the same to any of the said Committee. And lastly, it is Ordained, That the said Committee are to observe such further Orders and Directions, as they, from time to time, shall receive from both Houses of Parliament. Provided also, that this Ordinance shall continue for Four Months, and until both Houses shall take other Order to the contrary, and no longer.